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OSX To Feature Portable User Accounts?

eldavojohn writes "A new patent filed by Apple is causing speculation that OSX is soon to receive a new feature. From the article: '[the patent states] that the user account may be stored alongside general data storage or "other functionality". All of which seems to suggest that at some time soon we may be able to load our user accounts onto an iPod, hard drive or USB keydrive and take them wherever we go.'"

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  1. Prior art? by SIGBUS · · Score: 5, Informative

    Such functionality is already available in Knoppix. Not only can you store your configuration and updates on a USB thumb drive or HD, but the OS itself is portable, too.

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    1. Re:Prior art? by Overly+Critical+Guy · · Score: 2, Informative

      This patent was actually filed back in 2002 and was slated for OS X Panther but was pulled for whatever reason. It's not uncommon for a patent to take years to be granted, hence the term "patent pending."

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  2. Can already do this with Yellow Dog Linux by billdar · · Score: 3, Informative
    Put a complete Yellow Dog Linux install on your iPod and reboot any PPC mac into your entire OS with all your settings and applications. When on the move, it still plays your music and can be used with iTunes.

    Even IBM does this to recover dead PC's.

    Does this mean I can declare prior art? Get my lawyer on the bat-phone

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  3. Re:[offtopic] Binary fun by camperdave · · Score: 3, Informative

    Duh! Obviously the guy is one of the ones who CANNOT count in binary.

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  4. Re:Impressive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Keep it.

    As 'prior art', this might net you some money down the road when MS would challenge Apple's patent.

  5. evil by oohshiny · · Score: 2, Informative

    This feature has been available under UNIX for more than two decades. For Apple to patent this is really evil.

  6. Absolutely correct by mbessey · · Score: 4, Informative

    The original iPod hard drives (from the 5 and 10 GB models) had a very short guaranteed run time. That wasn't a problem for the iPod as a music player, or for occasional file transfer, since the drive was turned off 90% or more of the time. OS X likes to write to the home directory frequently, though, so "Portable Home Directories" (as they were known at the time) had the potential to wear out the iPod's hard drive very quickly (a matter of weeks or months).

    It turns out that the ACTUAL run time to failure for those drives was typically much longer than promised, so lots of folks have had success with using them as "live" drives. I have no idea what the specs on the current generation of iPod hard drives are, but I'd bet they're considerably more durable.

    Hey, what do you know - Toshiba has published the specifications for the original 5GB iPod drive online:
    http://www3.toshiba.co.jp/storage/english/spec/hdd /mk5002.htm#relia

    That page claims a "product life" of "5 years or 20,000 POH (Power-On-Hours)". 20,000 hours is just over 2.25 years of continuous operation. Given that you can get a 2-year warranty for an iPod through AppleCare these days, that doesn't sound like a very good risk.

    I don't happen to have a copy of the original spec sheet we got with the first-generation drives, but my recollection is that the quoted life span was much shorter - short enough that warranty returns for worn-out drives was a real concern if they were kept running all the time, even with the shorter warranties offered at the time (anybody else remember 90-day iPod warranties?).

    Of course, for Flash devices (like those in the Shuffle and Nano) the lifetime is specified in terms of a certain number of write operations, rather than total time "turned on". The expected lifetime for an iPod Shuffle used as a home directory is probably very very long - dozens of years.

  7. Unix 10 years ago? by katorga · · Score: 2, Informative

    Hmmm. NIS, automounter, and NFS file servers for /home. I could log into any system I was allowed to and my home dir, files, .profiles and X windows config was just as I left it.

    Hmmm. Active Directory roaming profiles.

    Hmmm. Linux, LDAP, automounter, and a remote home directory.

    Hmmmm. Knoppix + ~/user on a flashdrive.

  8. Re:Ultra portable by profplump · · Score: 2, Informative

    I've actually done it, both on a removable-disk and network basis. It's a simple as a login/logout script that makes a symlink. Seriously, this is a retarded patent. I'm all for Apple and portable home directories, but this should not be patentable.