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RIAA Drops Case In Chicago

NewYorkCountryLawyer writes, "The RIAA has dropped the Elektra v. Wilke case in Chicago. This is the case in which Mr. Wilke had moved for summary judgment, stating that: '1. He is not "Paule Wilke" which is the name he was sued under. 2. He has never possessed on his computer any of the songs listed in exhibit A [the list of songs the RIAA's investigator downloaded]. He only had a few of the songs from exhibit B [the screenshot] on his computer, and those were from legally purchased CDs owned by Mr. Wilke. 3. He has never used any "online media distribution system" to download, distribute, or make available for distribution, any of plaintiffs' copyrighted recordings.' The RIAA's initial response to the summary judgment motion, prior to dropping the case, had been to cross-move for discovery, indicating that it did not have enough evidence with which to defeat Mr. Wilke's summary judgment motion. P2pnet had termed the Wilke case yet another RIAA blunder."

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  1. Counter? by ColaMan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So is he going to counter-sue for the time and money spent defending himself against the allegations of the RIAA?

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    1. Re:Counter? by ColaMan · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Loser-pays, man. Loser-pays.

      But he didn't lose, the case was dropped, "amicably". Nobody won, nobody lost. But the guy is still out his time and legal expenses. What if they'd searched his house, confiscated his equipment, sent him to the point of bankruptcy with legal fees and then went, "Ah, hah-hah, we ,er, don't have a case. Yeah, er, sorry about that. Let's call it even, eh?"

      Or worse, at that point, they say, "Well, the evidence is shaky. But we've got the time and money to draaaag this out.We're very persistent, you know. We believe you're guilty of *something*. Care for an out-of-court , undisclosed, settlement?"

      How many cases does the RIAA have to screw up like this before the law realises that they're out firing random lawsuits at people on the internet?

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    2. Re:Counter? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      The dismissal is with prejudice, meaning it can't be refiled at all.

  2. Change in attitude? by fishmasta · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When's the last time the RIAA sued a new batch of people? It seems like with all these setbacks that they might be slowing down the lawsuits.

    1. Re:Change in attitude? by rolfwind · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You still don't get it, do you? They'll find you. That's what they does. That's all they do! You can't stop them. They'll wade through your lawyers, reach down your throat, and pull your fucking heart out.

      Listen. And understand. The RIAA is out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And they absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.

  3. the dogs by Wiarumas · · Score: 5, Funny

    lets bring in the cd sniffing dogs and search his house for incriminating evidence!

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  4. Re:Just so I actually understand this correctly by B3ryllium · · Score: 4, Insightful

    He didn't beat them in court, there was no judgement. They just backed out of the lawsuit.

    And do you support a legal system where someone can sue YOU, using information that is so inaccurate that they actually don't even have your proper name?

    RIAA vs. Osama Bin Laden Aliscool, tonight, on THE PEOPLE'S COURT.

  5. Re:Leave it to the RIAA by Firehed · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Cruelty maybe, but not stupidity. They start every single case knowing that they're relying on nothing but scare tactics (which is basically racketeering, illegal under the RICO act... google it, it's 2:30am), and hope that the thought of a several hundred thousand dollar settlement if they win an in-court case will convince them to settle for a few grand out of court. This is one of a few cases where the defendant knew they had no case (or assumed as much), said "OK, to court we go", and then they had to admit they had no case and drop the thing. If they didn't own half the government, I'm almost positive they'd be fined for wasting the court's time.

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  6. here's one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Try a price fixing cartel. Technology indicates that pre recorded music should be much cheaper than what it is, yet you look on the shelves-and it isn't? Coincidence, or large scale and entrenched (and ignored) price fixing? Or if you are an "artist", how about for fraud. Their contracts would make a mafia loan shark blush. Or how about collusion for bribery in congress? How about no matter how many of them get caught doing some form of payola, none of them are ever forced to stop being in the recording and distribution business *at all*? Why is they are allowed to continue, decade after decade, getting away with the same crimes and just passing along their joke fines they get wussy slapped with to the consumer?

    There are several potential avenues to explore.

  7. Re:Just so I actually understand this correctly by tchristney · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Piracy is wrong. However, using the term pirate to refer to a copyright infringer really makes the act sound much worse than it actually is. It's propaganda, plain and simple. Try and keep a little perspective on the rhetoric, OK?

  8. Re:Just so I actually understand this correctly by SeaFox · · Score: 4, Interesting
    He didn't beat them in court, there was no judgement. They just backed out of the lawsuit.
    And do you support a legal system where someone can sue YOU, using information that is so inaccurate that they actually don't even have your proper name?

    How do you get dragged into the lawsuit to begin with when it isn't your name? When they brought the papers by why didn't he just say "Sorry. That's not my name, you have the wrong address," and close the door on them?
  9. That's how you do it in civil court by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 5, Informative

    You present essentially every defense you can think of. You are presenting multiple levels and angles of an argument. It's like if you asked if I robbed a store and I say "No I was at work that night, and even if I was near the store I'm not nearly stupid enough to do something like that." The second part of the statement isn't saying the first is false, it's just saying that even if you don't believe me that I was at work, you still should believe I didn't do it.

    In the event of a lawsuit like this, that's how you'd go about it. Off the top of my head I'd challenge if the listing was undoctored (since screenshots are easy to fake), if it was of the right client (many P2P networks will misreport what you have on accident sometimes), if they verified the contents of the files, if they verified that they were coming from the stated IP address, if the IP to account mapping was accurate and unaltered, and if there was a way to prove that nobody else was using my network. It's just pointing out all the levels of problems. So even if the judge/jury buys everything else is legit, they believe it is likely someone else was using my network.

    You'll find in some civil cases there can be hundreds of responses as to why the plaintiffs are full of shit. It's just how the game is played. You throw out any and everything that is wrong with their case, and see what you can get to stick and shoot it down.