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More E-mail, Fewer Mailboxes

mikesd81 writes "Over at the Baltimore Sun there is an article about the post office removing those blue corner mail boxes because of e-mail. From the article: 'As more people send e-mails and pay bills online, the decline in first-class mail is forcing the U.S. Postal Service to remove tens of thousands of underused mailboxes from city streets.' The article goes on to say that the boxes were an American icon: 'You recognize them in Chicago, you recognize them in D.C., you recognize them in Florida, you recognize them in Montana,' Pope said. 'It's a piece of American iconography that has a wonderful history behind it.'" What the article forgets to mention: they're like an American TARDIS for children.

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  1. Mailbox Graveyard? by gbulmash · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What TFA doesn't address is what they'll do with the mailboxes. Will they auction them off to collectors, recycle the metal, or will there just be a huge stack of retired mailboxes three rows over from the Ark of the Covenant in some warehouse somewhere?

    1. Re:Mailbox Graveyard? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      They will melt them down for scrap. They won't sell them because thieves would use them for nefarious purposes, and outside of collecting mail they have little other possible use.

      I know every hacker on slashdot will post and tell me how they can turn one into a wet bar, but I doubt if the post office will sell them unless its to somebody who will scrap them.

    2. Re:Mailbox Graveyard? by reklusband · · Score: 2, Funny

      They'll use them for making a giant mailman eating machine. This will take care of the extra postal employees as well as the extra mailboxes.

    3. Re:Mailbox Graveyard? by k_187 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I thought rogue postal employees took care of that? Zing!

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  2. So what? by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 2, Insightful

    When was the last time you saw a (pay) telephone booth?

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    1. Re:So what? by LindseyJ · · Score: 3, Funny
      There are too many people, like me, who detest mobile phones (AKA annoying, chattering leashes).

      This just in -- New models of mobile phones being designed with "power buttons". This unique feature allows one to turn the device off (!!) if one doesn't want to accept calls.

      Wait a second... more breaking news! It seems that these same phones are also being equipped with ringtone volume controls and vibration functions! Not only that, but they also come equipped with small screens that display the identity of the incoming caller. And with a single button, one can choose to reject an incoming call!

      It is truely a marvelous world of technology that we live in.
    2. Re:So what? by mctk · · Score: 3, Funny

      Do farmers have little fingers and small heads with which to operate these phones?

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    3. Re:So what? by CastrTroy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think they should do that with the public elevators too. Maybe they could give the disabled, old, or people with babies (think strollers) a smartcard to operate them. Most of the ones in Ottawa (especially in the public transit terminals) smell a lot like urinals (that haven't been cleaned). We recently had a baby, and I've started to really hate using those elevators. It's a close call between carrying the stroller up 30 ft of stairs, and standing in the pee soaked elevator for 20 seconds to get to the next floor. As an asside, I knew a guy who knew a guy who worked replacing the tile floors in those elevators one summer. Worst Job Evah!!

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    4. Re:So what? by ottothecow · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Not a pay-phone mind you...he said a pay phone booth which is quite a rarity these days.

      About a year ago my roommate was interviewing for a job and one of the questions they gave him was "how many phone booths are in manhattan." I think they may have told him how many blocks tall and wide manhattan is but that was it. Being the very mathematical person he is he simply took the area and guessed at how many phone booths there would be per square block.

      When he told me this though, my initial response was zero--they have gotten rid of them all since everyone has cell phones and its cheaper to maintain payphones that are not inside booths (like those in building lobbies). We did some quick research on it and found a site where soemone had documented the last remaining manhatten phone booths...there were 4 of them. 4 in the largest city in the country.

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  3. What is a tardis? by papyromancer · · Score: 2, Funny

    Or is it one of those bullshit things that you turn into if you ask what it is?

  4. Good luck... by jb.hl.com · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Good luck paying bills, sending letters or doing quite a few long distance things if your Internet connection fails, or there's some kind of Internet-killing catastrophe...

    Redundancy is sometimes a good thing.

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    1. Re:Good luck... by The+Good+Reverend · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Except that mail is also accepted at my home, at the post office, at the remaining blue boxes, many people's workplaces, etc. I won't worry.

    2. Re:Good luck... by The_Wilschon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Redundancy is also usually an expensive thing. They can take it out of your taxes, not mine.

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    3. Re:Good luck... by anthony_dipierro · · Score: 2

      Yeah, cause if a nuclear holocaust comes and destroys the Internet, having to go an extra couple miles to mail out my bills is going to be the first problem I'm going to worry about.

      Actually, nevermind. If a nuclear holocaust comes and destroys the Internet I'll just mail stuff out from work, which is what I do with my Netflix DVDs now.

  5. No surprise... by TheGreatHegemon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When you think about it, the first truly tech saavy generation (as a whole, not just a select few) is starting to come to maturation. Snail Mail will always have a roll, I think, for things that you can't give over e-mail (that handmade card or nice drawing by your grandkid), but it will definately become less and less prevalent.

    1. Re:No surprise... by Skadet · · Score: 2, Informative
      When you think about it, the first truly tech saavy generation (as a whole, not just a select few) is starting to come to maturation. Snail Mail will always have a roll...
      And you inadvertantly proved an important point with your use of "roll" instead of "role": even with all the tech we have, kids growing up will still need to learn old-school fundamentals. I don't know of a spell checker that would have caught your error.
  6. No namecalling please by BeeBeard · · Score: 5, Funny

    Calling those children 'tards won't solve a thing. Oh no, I think I've misread something...

  7. Top men by BeeBeard · · Score: 3, Funny

    Interesting problem. I hear that top men are working on it now.

    1. Re:Top men by Burdell · · Score: 2, Funny

      Who?

    2. Re:Top men by kafka47 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Top. Men.

  8. Character?!? by RealGrouchy · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yeah, I've seen the blue mail boxes that they have in the US. They look pretty flimsy and ugly if you ask me. Heck, the ones here in Canada do too.

    You want a post box with character? Here is a post box with character. Those red UK ones were made to last long after e-mail renders them useless. Heck, we have one in our downtown just sitting there because it wasn't built, it was designed.

    - RG>

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  9. Remember the old fashioned mailboxes? by jhines · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The ones out in front of rural homes? That had a red flag that one would put up if to flag the delivery person that there is some outgoing mail?

    If you have a mailbox to receive mail, the letter carrier will take away outgoing mail.

    I had a package that was damaged in shipping, customer service sent me a pdf in email, to print out a return address label that the USPS would pick up and deliver to them postage due.

  10. Less mailboxes, more kiosks please by rolfwind · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Of course 1st class letters are dropping, who sends letters these days besides junkmail and bills? Not many. I can only think of birthday/holiday/invitation cards being the only regular use these days.

    But the sending of priority mail and boxes must be up with ebay and all that. I wish the post office opened more small kiosks around the place, in strip malls, supermarkets and such, every time I go into a main branch it is a long wait. It would be profitable for them, especially as they are cheaper than the competition.

    1. Re:Less mailboxes, more kiosks please by BinaryOpty · · Score: 2, Informative

      I know in my local post offices they have automated package centers that let you mail anything from normal first class letters to large packages without having to talk to a human being. It seems very few people use this service even though it can do most everything a human being at the counter can do. Also, the kiosk is open 24 hours as it's in the lobby with the PO Boxes so if you want to mail a package at midnight you can.

  11. Re:American Tardis? by teslar · · Score: 2, Funny
    The TARDIS is a fictional time machine
    You mean, as opposed to a real time machine? ;)
  12. stop the drama by dammy · · Score: 2, Informative



    Oh please, spare us the drama. Zip *g* is going to happen when the last collection box is removed and sold for scrap metal. Except it's one less thing to do on a mail route then having to dismount the vehicle to go to the collection box and scan/service it. USPS still picks up letters from curbside deliveries (ie your typical mail box sitting at the street) and any given single or grouped CBU (Cluster Box Unit) has an out bound mail slot you can use, regardless if you have a box there or not. You want the mail to go out, USPS is more then happy to drive their carriers to exhaustion to keep you happy.

    Now one thing that has nearly but all dissapeared are the green boxes. About the only place you will find those are in large urban areas.

    Dammy
    Rural Craft

  13. TARDIS is quite apt... by meringuoid · · Score: 5, Informative
    For those that don't know, the TARDIS is the vehicle piloted by the Doctor in Doctor Who. Its use as a comparison here is quite apt: the TARDIS is disguised as a police box, which was once a common sight on British streets but which, as portable radios took over, fell into obsolescence. There are very few police boxes still around, but once they were so commonplace that a time traveller could disguise his time machine as one and expect it to go unremarked.

    Now, it seems the iconic American mailbox is to fall into similar disuse...

    Unless, of course, I've completely misunderstood the metaphor. Does the US postal service provide mailboxes which are far larger on the inside than on the outside?

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  14. Re:Canada by Bombcar · · Score: 2, Informative
    Just use <a href="http://www.example.com>this</a>
  15. Re:People concentration and location really to bla by Ron+Bennett · · Score: 2, Interesting

    On a related note... most all new housing, at least in where I live in PA, do not have mail slots in the door, but instead each has its own mail box outside either separately in front or increasingly as part of a mailbox cluster down the street.

    Homes with mail slots in the door generally get to keep them, and occasionally some new homes will get them, assuming they are part of scattered development (ie a handful of homes or less; larger tracts typically won't get them even if homes nearby do), built within the same delivery area.

    It's nice to get mail delivered right through the door - don't even have to go outside; many people would be upset if they had to switch to an outside mailbox, and many postal jobs would be lost ... is the primary reason why there are still so many post offices and postal workers - it could be done with much less, but the U.S. mail system is a big part of Americana and not easily changed.

    Ron

  16. Re:The Problem With Mail, IMO by Ron+Bennett · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You may not be aware that the U.S. Postal Service has a free pickup service, and they also have a paid premium pickup service...

    Check out their pickup options below:
    http://www.usps.com/pickup/welcome.htm?from=home&p age=schedulepickup

    Ron

  17. Re:The Problem With Mail, IMO by nuggetman · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Print it out, grab an envelope out of the drawer, stick a stamp on it (if you're not sure if it's gone up since your last mailing, stick 2 for good measure), put it in your outside mailbox and put the flag up.

    See? Much simpler when you don't make it a 5 step list process with extraneous steps like reminiscing.

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  18. Re:pffftt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    It means that a tiny Superman would not be inconvenienced, but the regular-sized version might be.

  19. Re:The Problem With Mail, IMO by telso · · Score: 2, Informative

    Make it so that instead of just dropping letters, you can drop letters without postage and small to midsize packages. The letters have to be sorted anyway, so just add in a step of the process to have someone calculate the charge for me and bill me. Come to think of it, why hasn't this been done yet?

    It's called a postage meter. It was invented in 1912 by Arthur Pitney, who went into business with Walter Bowes in 1920. They're used on pretty much all commercial mailings these days (when was the last time you saw a stamp on your utility bills?), and can be found under "Mailing equipment" in the Yellow Pages (which, by the way, is a telephone directory in nearly every building in the country).

  20. Re:Mailbox Graveyard? "Little other possible use?" by davidsyes · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Stick computers into them and turn them into municiple WI-FI repeaters....

    Turn them into bill-pay points, to do something similar to the pay-your-bills-at-Mini Stop, like in Japan. Hell, with a camera, a keyboard, a card swiper and an LCD, those with no fixed address, those who are issued government subsidy/food cards, and the like can update their whereabouts, pay bill, and more. Would be low-tech, low-level terrestrial grades stuff, tho.....

    Hell, even the government could put background radiation meters (whether spiked by cosmic or terrestrial terrorists) or chemical agents detectors in them to monitor specific areas.

    But, I guess then those would be kicked, pissed into (where being pissed OFF is better than being pissed ON, for the boxes, being pissed ON is better than being pissed INTO), and vandalized in other ways...

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  21. Sometimes you don't recognise them by darthwader · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When I first moved to the 'States from Canada, I spent about a week trying to mail a letter. OK, I wasn't working on that 24x7, but I had the letter with me, and I was aware that I needed to stop at the first mailbox I saw.

    And I was getting annoyed that there just wasn't any mailboxes anywhere.

    Eventually I realized that in this country, mailboxes aren't big red things with round tops, they are smaller blue things with flat angled tops stuck to posts. And I realized that I had looked past many of them, because my idea of what a mailbox should look like didn't match the current reality I was in. It was one of those "we're not in Kansas anymore" moments (which is a rather ironic phrase, but still applies).

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  22. Use L-Mail instead by grandmofftarkin · · Score: 2, Informative

    hmm ... have you checked out L-Mail? It is great for sending letters to old relatives who don't have email, without all the hassle you outlined. It is also good for writing to companies who still take letters more seriously than email/phone, which is great if you are having problems. It is more expensive if you are sending a letter within your home country (although IMHO the costs are tolerable). If you are sending internationally it is quicker and cheaper.