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Google Launches Website Optimizer

Rockgod writes "Google Analytics Senior Manager Brett Crosby unveiled the tool, called Google Website Optimizer, this morning at the eMetrics summit in Washington D.C. If you find web site traffic heat maps like CrazyEgg, ClickDensity or Google Analytics' own heat map interesting, this looks like the next generation of that kind of tool. If Google's Website Optimizer can score high on usability, I expect it to be a big hit with small and medium size website publishers."

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  1. That's great and all... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... but what is it?

    1. Re:That's great and all... by setirw · · Score: 5, Informative

      It supposedly can determine which home pages make the greatest impression on users. I agree with you, though, that this should have been included in the summary, which is meaningless.

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    2. Re:That's great and all... by Jellybob · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's a tool for Adwords optimization - you give the application some blocks of your page, and several variations of the content for them, and then a percentage of your visitors get each version.

      This allows you to try out different sets of content, and see which one leads to the most conversions (software downloads, sales, enquiries etc.), and hopefully save some money at the same time. We have several clients you are spending over £1000/month on Adwords, and it really pays to be able to see what works.

  2. Enhancing your ability to get ads by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Or enhancing advertisers' ability to get your eyeballs.

    Either way, it's not for us.

    1. Re:Enhancing your ability to get ads by plover · · Score: 2, Interesting
      it's not for us.
      My "google-analytics.com" Adblock Plus entry had pretty much ensured that it wasn't for me regardless.

      Now, if NoScript had "blacklisting" that would be even better. I currently don't like NoScript because of the bar that's constantly at the bottom of every site with scripts by google-analytics, tacoda, imrworldwide, omniture or hitbox (which is pretty much everyone.) Once I've visited a site I don't want to remember whether or not I've cleaned it up -- I'd use the presence of the warning bar to remind me. Oh well, the author says it's coming someday.

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    2. Re:Enhancing your ability to get ads by paralaxcreations · · Score: 5, Interesting

      actually, google analytics does help you. Website statistics help the web master know what visitors do and do not want to see. Allowing google analytics to track your anonymous movement through a site ultimately leads to a more fulfilling user experience.

      At my job, I am rather far removed from the finances, yet I am supposed to decide what and how to market. Analytics lets me do that by tracking what sells, when it sells, etc.

      Does it help Google? Of course. But it also helps the webmaster of the sites you visit to create sites you want to see.

    3. Re:Enhancing your ability to get ads by xENoLocO · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I agree google analytics is helpful. However, it also increased my page load times by a long shot, so it had to be removed. It simply doesn't serve fast enough.

      So I took a look at my netvibes homepage and now I use who they use, statcounter.com... it's simpler than google analytics, loads a lot faster, and you can see the results in real time.

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    4. Re:Enhancing your ability to get ads by Richard+W.M.+Jones · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I agree google analytics is helpful. However, it also increased my page load times by a long shot, so it had to be removed. It simply doesn't serve fast enough.

      Did you try putting the Javascript somewhere other than the <head>? Obviously that's the recommended place, but in fact most of the functionality still works if you bury the Javascript down as close to </body> as it will go, and that should have less effect on the effective[1] page load time.

      Rich.

      [1] By "effective" I mean the time until the browser can render the page for the user, rather than the total load time.

    5. Re:Enhancing your ability to get ads by Spliffster · · Score: 3, Informative

      "I currently don't like NoScript because of the bar that's constantly at the bottom of every site with scripts by ... "

      Mozilla products are very nice because of their customisation possibilities. You can do the following:

      1. open Dom inspector
      2. File > Instepct a window > [select any window just not a document]
      3. Search > Select Element By Click
      4. click on the annoying element
      5. Profit!!! ... just kidding

      then see how you can identify it, if it has a n ID attribute this would be the easiest way, otherwise search for the first id in a parent node.

      then open your profile folder, create the file "chrome/userChrome.css" if it does not exist. Then you can simply add some CSS (2, partially 3 ... just everything that is supported by mozilla) like:
      --
      #elementid {display: none;}
      or
      #parentelement elementname {display: none;}
      --

      done. You can modify any aspect of firefox (and derivates) this way, this doesn't work for SeaMonkey/Mozilla Suite however, since the UI is only in FF implemented in XUL.

      Have fun!
      -S

  3. Optimising Slashdot by Rik+Sweeney · · Score: 3, Funny

    This'll be great, I can analyse Slashdot and post the results in the comments section along with some helpful suggestions, +5 Funny here I come!

    *Clicks link*

    *Clicks Sign up*

    *Starts filling in form*

    *Notices that signing up to Ad Words is required*

    *Notices that adding a phone number is required*

    *Gives up and decides to just post the results of W3C's HTML Validation Service instead*

    1. Re:Optimising Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Hilarious!

      Now... did you actually look at the site? It's nothing to do with HTML validation, and therefore has nothing whatsoever to do with the W3C's HTML Validation Service. :-P

    2. Re:Optimising Slashdot by tuomasr · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Well, it seems that this is a tool for AdWords users. The demo says "Google AdWords Website Optimization" and the sign-up thing reads:

      We're currently accepting sign-ups from AdWords Advertisers who are interested in participating in this beta test. We may not be able to guarantee invitations to everyone, but will be working hard to make this tool generally available to all AdWords customers in the near future.

      The front-page is misleading though, as it doesn't state anything about AdWords.

    3. Re:Optimising Slashdot by Richard+W.M.+Jones · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Why was the parent marked "Off Topic"? The comment is absolutely right - this service has nothing whatsoever to do with HTML validation. It's a technique for getting more sales on your site by testing different combinations of headings / content in adverts to find out what works best.

      Rich.

    4. Re:Optimising Slashdot by BetterThanCaesar · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The original poster's joke was probably that Slashdot used to block the W3C validator. It does not anymore, however.

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  4. Yes.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ..but is it beta?

  5. This may be useful by x-vere · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think this is cool. Google Adwords is somewhat of a statistical pain in the butt. I've spent hours upon hours of my life analyzing keywords, click rates, etc. for pushing more traffic to various sites on the web. If this tool eases that pain, even just a little, I say it is a good thing. Google needs us to succeed with AdWords as much as we want to succeed.

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  6. Mixed Feelings by Sv-Manowar · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Google giving advice is always going to help two sets of people - those who already have websites and want to optimise them, and those who are attempting to create websites to rank highly. If we look at why people creating websites usually want to get them to rank highly google the reasons are primarily monetary, which means that this tool is mainly giving advice to those who are trying to displace older (and possibly better sites). Say I have site A. which is dedicated to mountain biking news and has been running since 1997 with messageboards, news etc and hasn't been optimised for the best google rankings and we have Site B. which was created 3 months ago and uses RSS syndication to just serve up content from other sites and monetising it with something like adsense is the main point, then which should really rank higher in Google? I'm thinking A because it is more of a legitimate site.

    I think there is a point where trying to rank highly in Google is OK for wanting to growth in your site, but if Google continue to give out such tools then surely people will start producing sites that match exactly what it wants to see in order to get traffic. I'm starting to think that it shouldn't be sites that have to be optimised for Google to rank them highly, but Google to be optimised to pick up the best sites for each search term instead of landing pages or shells that are just there for advertising revenue.

    1. Re:Mixed Feelings by hanwen · · Score: 2, Informative

      you're completely off the mark here. This product aims to increase effectiveness of an adwords campaign, ie. getting people to buy your stuff after they've gone to your website.

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  7. In other news... by noname4444 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Google's new website optimizer suddenly quits after being run against MySpace. It's been reported the optimizer was later heard weeping, as well as muttering "the horror."

    1. Re:In other news... by Hillgiant · · Score: 2, Funny

      I believe an optimized MySpace would look something like:

      <html></html>

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  8. If google really want to optimize things.. by Channard · · Score: 3, Insightful

    .. how about they send some kind of robot around their search listings, to delist any page that is little more links to another page. I've been looking for something and found links to a site that's basically links, which links to another site made up of links etc..

  9. You're not a sadist enthralled by technology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Step 1: Create a myspace page for the mother of someone you wish to disparage.
    Step 2: Get it to rank highly for "fat", "skank", or another appropriate pejorative
    Step 3: Enjoy their sweet sweet tears. If possible lick them right off their face.

  10. "algorithm" ..or google users? by adam · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm somewhat unclear on this, and I watched 80% of the flash demo linked above before getting insanely bored (mostly due to the pace) and letting my ADHD take over. From what I can tell, they are implying that this is not an algorithm doing the "checking" of your web site, but rather human editors/users. The flash demo mentions testing optimization of images as well, which I believe wouldn't be something easily automated through an algorithm (at least not easily automated to derive USEFUL results). However, i'm a bit confused because they aren't very specific as to who or what will be testing your site for clickthru/etc. At some point I started to think "oh, okay, google editors/volunteers will be testing it" (much like the google image labeler beta linked from /. a few weeks ago).. and then i started to suspect they are actually just using the code to run multiple "live" versions of your site and let NORMAL google users view them in a random distribution and then see which ones stay (and buy) and for how long etc. But maybe I just misunderstood and got distracted 5 seconds before they explained this haha. Anyone with the answer?

    If it really is the latter method, I am sure it would work for some web sites, but I know for our company's site, we can only ever display one version of our content, as any minor changes at all tend to draw a lot of industry attention (i.e. "hey what are these guys up to.. their site updated.. OMG is the next big product about to drop, blah blah").. so I hope that out of the three methods, it's either an algorithm, or a small subset of google trustees/volunteers. But then again, our industry (digital cinema) is a typical and I'm sure no matter which method, this will work great for mom & pop selling Pokemon trading cards or whatever.

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    1. Re:"algorithm" ..or google users? by tomhudson · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm somewhat unclear on this, and I watched 80% of the flash demo linked above before getting insanely bored (mostly due to the pace) and letting my ADHD take over.

      OMG I must have ADHD as well - I couldn't stand more than 30 seconds of it - just clicked on every link in the left-hand side, saw it was "more of the same" ... and was out of there!

      Maybe if we want real information (like a web page that describes it) we should just google for it ... oops ... "google website optimizer" just returns articles that link to the same damn presentation.

      Maybe google should have practiced what they preach and done their own "web site optimization" by having several different versions (flash, web pages) available. Didn't they get the memo - flash-only is evil?

    2. Re:"algorithm" ..or google users? by tolan-b · · Score: 5, Informative

      No the way it works is that you identify parts of a page that you want to experiment with with tags, include a javascript library on it and a conversion page, and then tell google what variations on the tagged item (alternate headlines for example) you want to test.

      When someone goes to that page, google will randomly select one of your alternate headlines and replace the original one with it. It'll then check if that person buys something (or subscribes or whatever).

      It then gives you a report of which variations lead to the most conversions.

    3. Re:"algorithm" ..or google users? by ffrinch · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Because with Google you can do it faster and easier, with pretty reports showing you the results, and put your time into other projects.

      Why use Postnuke instead of writing your own "ugly portal site" software?

  11. This is not tool to help increase a sites ranking by @madeus · · Score: 2, Informative

    This is not a tool to help people increase their sites ranking in Google. It's a tool for customers who pay Google for advertising to help those advertisers drive up revenue by converting more visitors (those who notice the advert and click through) into paying customers by making their sited better at driving customers into making a purchase.

  12. It's for marketer's landing pages by 1sockchuck · · Score: 3, Informative

    This tool is most helpful for companies who buy a lot of AdWords and route the the clicks to optimized "landing pages" that present a focused marketing pitch. From what I've seen, the Optimizer's real value is to help these AdWords buyers figure out which of their landing pages is producing the best performance in routing readers to their product pages. Getting that kind of data in a quick, user-friendly fashion will have value to these folks.

  13. the Real website optimizer by a.d.trick · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And the winner is: w3.org. The CSS section is probably the most useful part of it, but the whole thing is heartily recommended. To test you level of optimization there is an automated tool for HTML markup as well as one for CSS.

  14. Maybe it's a UK thing.... by Argentice · · Score: 2, Funny

    But I spat out my coffee when it said "Make this bike yours" with a picture of a woman...