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IBM Sues Amazon For Patent Infringement

A large number of readers wrote in about IBM suing Amazon over commerce patents. The Ars Technica coverage linked is one of the few sources that goes beyond the brief AP or Reuters stories that everyone is running. Here is IBM's press release. Some of the patents in question go back to the 80s and they do seem to pretty much wrap up the idea of online commerce, if they prove valid. IBM says many others are licensing the patents but Amazon won't give them the time of day on the subject.

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  1. An old slogan comes to mind by Kelson · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As crazy as this patent insanity gets, I can't help but think of the phrase, "Live by the sword, die by the sword."

    1. Re:An old slogan comes to mind by Shados · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Indeed. Actualy, considering IBM's track record, which while not perfect, is not quit in line with a patent troll...I wouldn't be surprised if the ONLY reason they used this against Amazon, is because Amazon does the same thing to others.

    2. Re:An old slogan comes to mind by Halo1 · · Score: 5, Informative

      I wouldn't be surprised if the ONLY reason they used this against Amazon, is because Amazon does the same thing to others.

      Then be very surprised. IBM has a long history of strong-arming other companies with its patent portfolio and extracting license money from them. In fact, Marshall Phelps (who now works for Microsoft fwiw), turned IBM's sleeping patent portfolio into a $1+ billion profit.

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  2. what IBM wants by wardk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    IBM just wants amazon to let them use the heralded one-click "invention" without royalties. this is their first offer.

  3. Re:Nothing for you to see here. Please move along. by Aqua_boy17 · · Score: 5, Informative

    If IBM holds a patent for 'Posting messages to an interactive service' there may well be. I mean, some of these are pretty broad:

    US 5,796,967 - Presenting Applications in an Interactive Service.
    US 5,442,771 - Storing Data in an Interactive Network.
    US 7,072,849 - Presenting Advertising in an Interactive Service.
    US 5,446,891 - Adjusting Hypertext Links with Weighted User Goals and Activities.
    US 5,319,542 - Ordering Items Using an Electronic Catalogue.

    Without reading the actual applications, it sounds to me like that covers like 99% of anyone selling or storing anything on-line. I mean, WTF? Storing data in an interactive network? How broad is that net?

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  4. And then there's... by HiggsBison · · Score: 5, Funny

    Doesn't SCO or somebody have it locked up with:
    "A Method for Doing Stuff with Things" and
    "A Method for Doing Stuff with Things Involving a Computing Device"?

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  5. No Kidding. by pavon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    IBM's patent portfolio is truly frightening in that the only thing preventing it from doing massive harm to the industry is self restraint and the enlightened self interest of wanting to remain relevant in the industry. Let's just hope their business never goes south. If you thought that the IP trolls that make money by buying the patents portfolios of failed start-ups was bad, just imagine the hell that will be unleashed if IBM enters a downward spiral and decides to "refocus the company revenue strategies on their intellectual property licensing opportunities".

  6. Re:Reminded of a story by _|()|\| · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This Forbes article is more in line with my recollection of the story. IBM approached Sun with a handful of bogus patents, which Sun's engineers handily debunked. However, rather than risk IBM digging through its portfolio for actually infringed patents, Sun coughed up the protection fee.

  7. Re:Nothing for you to see here. Please move along. by Hartmeister · · Score: 5, Interesting

    People are thinking that IBM bought these patents or just went fishing. I'm sure these patents are from the IBM-Sears joint Prodigy service. Prodigy really was ahead of its time in many of its concepts.