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China Moving to Real Name Registrations for Blogs

dptalia writes "China is moving to require people to use their real names when blogging. The proposed solution, arrived at by the Internet Society of China (affiliated with the ministry of information) would allow bloggers to use a pseudonym when blogging as long as they used their real name when registering."

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  1. How long? by PixieDust · · Score: 4, Insightful
    With the way things are going many other places (especially given recent court battles here in the US about children online and privacy and protection), How long until we see tactics like this on THIS side of the Pacific?

    Additionally, tactics like this in China, I can't help but wonder, will this in some way allow US Intelligence to decide exactly who is responsible for attacks against US Cyber Targets? If people are required to use their REAL names when registering (let's say on Yahoo just for an example), and there is a Yahoo group comprised of mostly Chinese users, which post all kinds of anti-American things, or organizing these attacks, what's to stop US Intelligence from forcing Yahoo to turn over the names of those registered?

    Furthermore, what if the US decides to expand the "Patrio" Act, to include requirements like this (Hell they've already forced ISPs and phone companies into turning over ludicrous amounts of information).

    Maybe I'm wearing a tin-foil hat and not realizing it, but is anyone else troubled by the recent trend in online privacy intrusions? That is one thing that is nice about the internet, it affords you a certain amount of anonymity. Could we be witnessing the end of that?

    Also, just how much REAL difference is there in the US's privacy invasion crimes, and China's? Could it be that China is just more blatant about it?

    1. Re:How long? by TastyCakes · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm just trying to figure out how you turned this into a criticism of america... that was smooth man, I got to the end and had to remind myself that I don't have to register a blog in my real name..

    2. Re:How long? by aussie_a · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I'm just trying to figure out how you turned this into a criticism of america... that was smooth man, I got to the end and had to remind myself that I don't have to register a blog in my real name..

      yet.
  2. China -- thanks for the perfect example by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is a perfect example of why we need to preserve the possibility of anonymity on the net.

    It's fine to authenticate financial transactions and what not, but there is no complete freedom of speech without the ability to be anonymous at times.

    1. Re:China -- thanks for the perfect example by bunions · · Score: 3, Insightful

      > there is no complete freedom of speech without the ability to be anonymous at times.

      I think you mean "there is no complete freedom from the repercussions of your speech without the ability to be anonymous at times."

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    2. Re:China -- thanks for the perfect example by ricree · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I think you mean "there is no complete freedom from the repercussions of your speech without the ability to be anonymous at times."
      Which is also known as freedom of speach. People have pretty much always been able to say whatever they want, that part is nothing new. However, it really doesn't mean much when you can be punished just because someone didn't like what you were saying. Free speach isn't truly free unless it means freedom from repercussions.
  3. Re:It's a different society. by Dr.+Donuts · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually, this sort of thing would be labeled "fighting terrorism" in the US.

  4. yeah, the name's zhang by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    that really narrows it down.

  5. From the ... dept by wik · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Is it too much to ask for a little professionalism with an article's "from the ... dept"?

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  6. fascist? by krell · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Fascists who quote Marx tend to be called socialists or communists. The difference is really very superficial.

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  7. my thoughts by ThorGod · · Score: 3, Insightful

    FUCK YOU CHINA!

    And by China I mean "Chinese government". Seems appropriate as the rest of the world mistakes US for US government!

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  8. Re:It's a different society. by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 2, Insightful

    In the US, that sort of thing would be labeled fascist. What are their rights, anyway? Do they even have any?

    Damn it, that's not fascism. China does share some of the characteristics of a fascist state, but there are many non-fascist states that do not allow free speech. Different societies have different values, and in the growing homogenization of the West, that's lost sometimes.

  9. Re:oblig by bigdavesmith · · Score: 4, Insightful

    TFA doesn't give any details, but I'd be willing to bet that 'registering your real name' doesn't mean they just give you a box and you type in "Sandy O'Hoolahan". Considering China's record with internet regulation, there's probably going to be enough checks and controls so that once you register, if you blog something they don't like, they can find you.

  10. Re:It's a different society. by bunions · · Score: 5, Insightful

    exactly. let's not get up on our moral high horse here. We americans still live in a country where all our phone calls and internet traffic are monitored.

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  11. Re:It's a different society. by realmolo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Different societies have different values"

    Yeah, and any society that stifles free speech is a society that needs to change.

    Let's not pretend that "to each his own" applies when we're talking about governments/religions/societies that restrict basica human freedoms. The reason that "Western culture" is taking over in most of the world is because it is a BETTER CULTURE in many, if not most, ways. Too many people mistakenly wax nostalgiac for the good old days of the Old World, and forget that the Old World was mostly a living hell for the vast majority of the non-ruling class.

  12. Re:It's a different society. by Lumpy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And dont forget, our political dissidents are put in prison as well, arrest of a citizen based on nothing but desire, etc...

    America is not very far away from Communist china or North Korea.. At least our current leaders are hell bent to get us to what they have.

    I'm waiting for us to be required to carry our papers, and have a passport for inter-state travel.

    Think I am joking???? It's on it's way kids, to help save us from T E R R O R I S M !

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  13. Re:It's a different society. by xarium · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The "right to privacy" (heralded by many a culture from as far back as the Magna Carter) is read by many citizenry (in the West) as equivalent to "the right to not be seen" and/or "the right to remain anonymous".

    Most legal systems (including the US, England and other "traditionally western" governments) actually recognise it more like a "right to be left alone". It is that description which better embodies the ideals or free speech, free religion & ultimately universal suffrage than any condition of anonymity. Any government should be within its rights to request identification of yourself (how else can an authority verify you are worthy of protection or assistance?) but it would be unjust that they harass you based on what you may say about them to others.

    The "right to be anonymous" is a very different thing from the "right to be left alone".

  14. Re:It's a different society. by operagost · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Not mine. You must live in a different dimension where Democratic party talking points are reality.

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  15. Re:It's a different society. by McFadden · · Score: 3, Insightful
    none of your data transactions are monitored unless there's a court order
    Funny - I thought it was exactly the fact that they weren't obtaining the necessary court order that has brought the Bush administration so much criticism recently.
  16. Where did the US government come from? by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sure, you can say that Bush did not get the majority of the votes, but he got well over 40%. So while you might not individually be responsible for the government there are enough people in the US that are.

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  17. Re:It's a different society. by iamacat · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You do need ID for interstate travel. A driver license is needed to fly, obviously drive, check into a hotel, get a credit card, apply for a job or rent an apartment. Sure, you can hitchhike, live in a barrack with a dozen of illegal Mexicans and take cash jobs as a gardener. Kind of like those North Korean refugees in China. But how many political dissidents, which tend to be intellectual types, are cut out for such a lifestyle?