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Ubuntu 6.10 is Out

cloudmaster writes "Apparently they were watching me to see when I downloaded the 6.10-rc release isos, as I did that last night, and the full release happened this morning. :) Neat stuff, including Firefox 2.0, Gnome 2.16, myth 0.20, faster booting thanks to upstart (sort of a replacement for init, among others), etc. The announcement and download pages are up. I've got *my* torrent running..."

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  1. Easy upgrade from Dapper by fracai · · Score: 5, Informative

    gksudo "update-manager -c"

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    1. Re:Easy upgrade from Dapper by fracai · · Score: 4, Informative
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  2. Re:Can I by Rik+Sweeney · · Score: 4, Informative

    Can I now dist-upgrade my Ubuntu Dapper to Edgy?

    I think so, I was going to do (on the command line)

    sudo sed -e 's/\sdapper/ edgy/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list

    sudo apt-get update

    sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

    * Go to bed / work *

    Which will update my sources list, update the repository and then upgrade. At least, that's what I think it'll do. If anyone has any corrections then let us know.

  3. Ubuntu Do What Debian [C/W]ouldn't... by vain+gloria · · Score: 5, Informative

    I say, here's fun! Official word from Mozilla on why Ubuntu shipped with Firefox branded Firefox, rather than Iceweasel.

    Plaudits to the Ubuntu guys for getting this release out so quickly. Wonder if I should stick with 6.06 and its LTS or upgrade?

  4. Debian? by Klaidas · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why is there a Debian icon here? Yeah, I know, "ubuntu is based on debian", etc. But if the distro is THAT popular, you might wanna get an icon for Ubuntu too.

  5. Re:Can I by grazzy · · Score: 4, Informative

    Also the documentation recommends running sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
    Thats because if the first command fails you shouldnt run the second for whatever reason.

    Ubuntu is the next best thing since sliced bread, and everyone should atleast try it out. I upgraded my 5.10 (no idea how I managed to install that) the other day to 6.06 this way - it went without a hickup. I love ubuntu :P

  6. Some early impressions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Upgrade from Dapper via the net too around 1 hour (DSL) and went very smooth. During the updating process the system worked fine, but some strange things started to happen due to new versions of apps and libraries slowly filtering in (e.g. funny fonts, missing icons).

    After the reboot ...

    Dapper was already a fast system, Edgy feels even faster. In particular, bott time is shorter, the Gnome menus come up quicker. The Murrine GTK+ theme I had installed from outside of the normal repositories was broken. Fonts were not fully hinted (looked smeared) in Firefox and gnome-terminal; this was fixed by explicitly switching to full hinting in the fonts preferences. These have been the only regressions I've noticed so far.

    The new Firefox 2 is certainly nice, e.g. spell-checking in text fields, not slow as molasses anymore on framed pages, etc. Departs further from GTK look & feel with the (literally) shiny new tabs. Epiphany has acquired adblocking capabilities, but is still not installed by default.

  7. Re:Can I by grazzy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A small success story;

    The company that I hire my office from has been running redhat for ages, they're getting problems installing their in-house software to the newer versions of redhat because they are using cups instead of the older lp/lpr/lprng systems. Knowing this I started synaptic (the ubuntu package manager), searched for LPRNG with one of the senior guys behind my shoulder. Choosed to install LPRNG, synaptic automaticlly disabled cups and change the appropriate settings. 15 minutes later we were printing useing their sed-scripts from the 80's again.

    I think I can safely say that I singlehanded arranged for a bunch of new ubuntu installs with that 20 minutes of my time.

  8. With Strigi! by oever · · Score: 4, Informative

    The universe now contains the desktop search with the fastest file-indexer: Strigi! This is a huge improvement over Beagle in terms of resource usage and with the added ability to search for files no matter how deeply nested in packages, archives or mail, it's clearly the best file searching tool for Linux.

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  9. Re:apt-get dist-upgrade by johansalk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's also nice, once the iso burned, which is a 2 minute job, to have a CD around.

  10. Re:Can I by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wow, I bet all the girls are after you now, you hot stud.

  11. Re:Can I by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    I updated Kubuntu from 6.06 yesterday (as detailed in the RC press release) and after rebooting the system stop working (frozen at the end of the boot process).
    Should it happen to you, I did this:

    1. reset
    2. hit ESC when prompted at boot
    3. select safe mode from the menu
    4. run "startx" on the commnad prompt. KDE should start.
    5. Update the system with Adept (system > package manager).
    6. reboot.

    Everything is fine now.

  12. Et tu, Kubuntu? by CheeseTroll · · Score: 4, Informative

    Kubuntu 6.10 has also been released. New features + installation/upgrade instructions are here: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php

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  13. Cake? by neaorin · · Score: 5, Funny

    I guess the cake sent to them by the Vista team got lost in delivery.

  14. Re:So, they replaced init. by beezly · · Score: 5, Informative

    It doesn't take much to find out via the ubuntu wiki - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReplacementInit has lots of information on the whole implementation.

    With regards to launchd, that page says;

    The four candidates were Solaris SMF, Apple's launchd, the LSB initserv/chkconfig tools and initNG.

    The first two of these suffer from inescapable licence problems, which is relatively unfortunate as both have features that are somewhat appealing though neither quite fix our problems. Having whichever system we use being adopted as a Linux-wide standard would not be possible if we chose either of these two systems.

    and also from discussion further down the page;

    NabLa: [WWW] Apple's launchd has been [WWW] released recently under the Apache license. Would that resolve those "inescapable licence problems"? Looks like a very interesting possibility now.

    • ScottJamesRemnant: it still doesn't meet our requirements, so would be only a base for our own work. We've already implemented enough that it'd be a backwards step to start again based on launchd. Also the new launchd licence may not be GPL compatible, so it would still not be ideal
    • jec : I think that the licence (apache 2.0) is GPL compatible. But if work is already advanced on your own solution, then great! Just hope that Redhat/SuSE/Debian will adopt it...
    • ThomMay: it's not - [WWW] the FSF mark it as incompatible.
  15. Still no 3D desktop? by cciRRus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Mandriva 2007 and Fedora Core 6 now come out-of-the-box with 3D desktop support (XGL/AIGLX + Compiz). The 3D desktop not only serve as a great piece of eyecandy, it (e.g. cube desktop and Expose clone) also makes the GUI friendlier and more efficient. As a Ubuntu user, I'm a little disappointed that Ubuntu 6.10 does not provide 3D desktop support.

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  16. Re:Upstart faster how?... by diegocgteleline.es · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "It still seems to be a serialised startup process"

    It is. For Ubuntu edgy, a "compatibility layer" has been implemented to allow upstart run the old sysv /etc/init.d scripts

    This is because changing everything in a single release was too much. For the next release, they'll replace the old scripts with true upstart scripts and then the switch will be complete (and still there'll be compatibility for the unported sysv scripts available in extra packages)

  17. I just downgraded to ubuntu 6.04.1 by Billly+Gates · · Score: 5, Informative

    Its not ready yet. I have summarized my experience here 2 days ago.

    Initramfs has been updated several times a day and reports of usb drives double mounting, not mounting, and randomly unmounting are quite huge, many wifi cards no longer work, multiple midi files can crash xmms, firefox 2.0 randomly crashes, and other issues means its not ready yet in my book.

    Also in my journal I mentioned gpart crashed during a resizing of my ntfs partition. That was quite scary but I did not lose anything. According to launchpad it has not been fixed yet so Windows users beware.

    Ubuntu is my favorite and one of the most stable distro's out there. However I highly advise ubuntu users to wait a few weeks before upgrading to this version.

  18. Re:Upstart faster how?... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    It still seems to be a serialised startup process, and the documentation does not make it clear how to specify startup dependencies ("IP before NTP", or "spamd before sendmail")

    From the documentation, it looks like you can do exactly this, by specifying that spamd be started when and before sendmail is started. You can also have sendmail start whenever spamd has finished starting. It looks to give you the ability to inject dependencies in either direction. Example: If sendmail is already installed and configured to start at system boot, the spamd installer just needs to add "start on sendmail/start" to it's own startup script, and upstart will call it before calling sendmail's startup script. Or you can go the other direction, and have sendmail's script use "start on spamd/started" to run sendmail's startup script after spamd's startup script finishes running.

    However, the most useful aspect seems to be the fact that it can process events at any time, not just startup/shutdown. Such as starting an iPod sync daemon only when an iPod is connected, and stopping it when the iPod is removed.

  19. Re:Can I by thepotoo · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hey, well, the girls might not be after him, but a million Anonymous Cowards on Slashdot sure are.

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  20. What does a version release *really* mean? by suggsjc · · Score: 4, Interesting
    In the grand scheme of things, what does it really mean to release a new version other than just having a continually increasing number? Why make it such a big deal?

    I ask this seriously and also in jest. Why not just have
    sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
    give you the latest and greatest? There has already been discussion of the "best" way to go about upgrading (dist-update, whatever). If instead of having repositories that were "version" specific, why not just have "current" repositories. Then as *everything* progresses, it all gets updated along the way?

    Is it just the dependencies issue? Or am I missing something more? Just seems like since Ubuntu is aimed at making it the most user-friendly distro, "version" updates could follow suit.
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  21. Re:Can I by dotgain · · Score: 4, Funny

    And he should comment out "* Go to bed / work *" since the asterisks will expand to every file in the current directory.