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Microsoft's Charles Simonyi to be 1st Nerd in Space

Richard L. James writes "The BBC are reporting that Hungarian-born Charles Simonyi, a 58-year old Microsoft billionaire software engineer is set to become the first 'nerd in space' on board the Soyuz TMA-10 when the spacecraft launches on Thursday 09th March 2007. Charles oversaw the development of Multiplan, Word, and Excel among many other achievements. He has launched a website detailing the 3 goals he wishes to achieve on the trip: advance civilian spaceflight, assist space station research, and involve kids in space sciences. Jó szerencse pölö Charles!"

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  1. First nerd??? by the_humeister · · Score: 5, Informative

    I thought Mark Shuttleworth claimed that title (the Ubuntu guy)?

    1. Re:First nerd??? by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Many scientists have been in space. Some of them probably consider themselves 'nerds'.

      Maybe I'm out of the loop with modern lingo, but 'nerd' doesn't necessarily have anything to do with computers.

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    2. Re:First nerd??? by 8ball629 · · Score: 3, Funny

      You haven't heard? Nerds can only be billionaire software engineers from Microsoft - the others are geeks. *end sarcasm*

    3. Re:First nerd??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Geek = good

      Nerd = bad

    4. Re:First nerd??? by Schemat1c · · Score: 3

      You haven't heard? Nerds can only be billionaire software engineers from Microsoft - the others are geeks. *end sarcasm*

      To all the geeks who will never experience space - *raises glass*

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    5. Re:First nerd??? by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 3, Informative
      Uh-huh. If we are counting people who got rich by being geeks, unlike the very many scientists who have been to space, pretty much all space tourists belong on the list. Dennis Tito was an engineer and his investment consulting business included quantitive analysis. If we are scoring operating systems, Shuttleworth was a Debian user while building Thawte.

      Bruce

    6. Re:First nerd??? by rblancarte · · Score: 5, Funny
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    7. Re:First nerd??? by abandonment · · Score: 2

      It's all for naught...trying to get proper spelling on slashdot that is ;}

      astronaut / cosmonaut

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronaut

    8. Re:First nerd??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      As always Microsoft coming late and saying they are First.

    9. Re:First nerd??? by AGMW · · Score: 3, Funny
      To all the geeks who will never experience space - *raises glass*

      Hmmm. Raises unbreakable glass substitute.

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    10. Re:First nerd??? by Ben+Hutchings · · Score: 2, Informative

      According to Wikipedia, Anousheh Ansari "received her Bachelor of Science degree in electrical engineering and computer science at George Mason University and her master's degree at George Washington University." Later, she made a large donation to the X-Prize. Sounds quite geeky to me.

    11. Re:First nerd??? by mapkinase · · Score: 2, Informative

      First, wikipedia convinced me. Second, actually, it is not her education that would qualify her. It is this:

      During her eight-day stay onboard the International Space Station, Ansari agreed to perform a series of experiments on behalf of the European Space Agency. She conducted four experiments [21], including:

              * Researching the mechanisms behind anemia.
              * How changes in muscles influence lower back pain.
              * Consequences of space radiation on ISS crew members and different species of microbes that have made a home for themselves on the space station.

      She also became the first person to publish a weblog from space.

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  2. Yuri Gagarin by Airconditioning · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wouldn't he qualify as first geek in space? I mean, the Russians didn't send a painter up did they?

    1. Re:Yuri Gagarin by roystgnr · · Score: 5, Informative

      Wouldn't he qualify as first geek in space?

      No; he's not even the first geek in space this fall.

      According to The Fine Article, the "first nerd in space" moniker is actually Dr. Simonyi's speculation about himself, not just the mistake of some clueless reporter - in fact the reporter mentioned three previous nerdy space tourists. My mind boggles - surely before deciding to spend millions of dollars on this trip, Dr. Simonyi thought to learn a little about his predecessors?

    2. Re:Yuri Gagarin by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 2, Informative

      \i{I mean, the Russians didn't send a painter up did they?}

      Back on Vokhshod I. Alexei Leonov.

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    3. Re:Yuri Gagarin by booch · · Score: 5, Funny

      He's a Microsoft engineer. Obviously his delusions of grandeur are not limited to work.

      Nor are unfounded claims of originality.

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    4. Re:Yuri Gagarin by The+Cydonian · · Score: 4, Informative
      He's a Microsoft engineer. Obviously his delusions of grandeur are not limited to work.

      Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't he the guy who developed the Hungarian notation (not that developing code-standards should lead to fame, fortune and grandeur, but just sayin')

    5. Re:Yuri Gagarin by ocbwilg · · Score: 2, Informative

      Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't he the guy who developed the Hungarian notation (not that developing code-standards should lead to fame, fortune and grandeur, but just sayin')

      Yes he is. That's why they call it "hungarian notation". He also hasn't worked for Microsoft since 2002. Right now he's running a company called Intentional Software.

    6. Re:Yuri Gagarin by mdmarkus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't he the guy who developed the Hungarian notation

      And thereby making huge swaths of code unreadable. How much Microsoft code uses a rgs16 to store 32 byte values? Some consider Hungarian notation to be the tactical nuke equivalent for unmaintainable code.

  3. first nerd in space? by motank · · Score: 5, Funny

    yeah, cos everyone that's gone to space so far has been a football jock right?

    1. Re:first nerd in space? by Architect_sasyr · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well obviously! Otherwise they wouldn't have been able to jump like that...

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    2. Re:first nerd in space? by kfg · · Score: 5, Informative

      Well, the first couple of batches were fighter jocks, actually, hard men with extensive combat experience; but that didn't preclude them from being geeks/nerds as well.

      The first American in space, Alan Shepard, had a Bachelor of Science from Annapolis.

      Or take the first two men on the moon (please). Neil Armstrong had a Bachelor of Science from Purdue and a Master of Aeronautical Engineering from USC (and had been accepted at MIT). Buzz Aldrin majored in Science at West Point and eventually earned a PhD from MIT.

      Jocks with slide rules. It happens.

      KFG

    3. Re:first nerd in space? by kfg · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I for one welcome our slide rules bearing jocks overlords....

      Beats the shit out of the nuns. Ya ever been rapped across the knuckles with a Pickett N4-ES?

      KFG

  4. go nerds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Nerdy? Well can he quote the Holy Grail and make you ROTFLOL?

  5. His first question to the Russians by edwardpickman · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Okay this'll get me laid, right?"

    1. Re:His first question to the Russians by PsychicX · · Score: 2, Funny

      According to his Wikipedia article, he is dating Martha Stewart.

      Clearly women are not a focus of his life.

  6. science nerd by arun_s · · Score: 5, Informative

    Microsoft bashing aside, this is the guy who's founded the Charles Simonyi Chair in the Public Understanding of Science at the University of Oxford. Richard Dawkins is the current head. I guess that qualifies him pretty much as a (science) nerd.
    He still didn't have to put up a Flash 9 only website, though.

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    1. Re:science nerd by Protonk · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No, this is the guy who donated enough money to have a tenured position named after him. The real prevailing factors here are money and some sufficient amount of respectability--Oxford wasn't waiting around for Ghandi, but the chair wasn't to be named after Pauli Shore.

  7. they read my mind by rifftide · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've often thought, whoever came up with this convention for naming variables ought to be shut in a Russian spacecraft and sent far, far away.

    1. Re:they read my mind by Sqwubbsy · · Score: 5, Funny

      So will this make him a spcExplorer?

  8. Termination by joe_n_bloe · · Score: 5, Funny

    Being fired is one thing ... but being fired into space?

  9. Bullshit. by Alex+Belits · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I am sure, in nearly half a century of manned space flight there were many cosmonauts/astronauts that are nerdier than some rich Microsoft guy.

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  10. Jó szerencse pölö Charles = ? by A+beautiful+mind · · Score: 4, Informative

    Jó szerencse == Good luck pölö == ??? (it could be póló, which means tshirt or a phonetic version of pl, meaning "for example" but I haven't the slightest idea what did they mean to write)

    by a native hungarian in the early morning (so if I missed something obvious, it's early!).

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    1. Re:Jó szerencse pölö Charles = ? by mountiealpha · · Score: 4, Informative

      Amen. WTF was that all about? Besides, it should be Jó szerencsét, Károly, no?

  11. Re:First?! by mastropiero · · Score: 5, Funny

    Exactly, he is as much the first nerd in space as IE7 is the first tabbed browser....

  12. breaking barriers by qw0ntum · · Score: 4, Funny

    I for one am glad we're finally breaking the nerd in space barrier. I mean, it's not like we've ever seen a molecular biologist or astrophysicist go into space. No, they are far too nerdy for something like that.

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  13. FYI by Geoffreyerffoeg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Charles Simonyi is the Hungarian in Hungarian notation (you know, m_lpszUsrTxt and the like).

    To be entirely fair to him, it wasn't intended to make variable names inscrutable, it applied to a language with weak type checking and few real types, and it still has valid uses today if you use it to mark information about the type of data instead of the "type" of variable.

    1. Re:FYI by Procyon101 · · Score: 2, Informative

      There are many problems with it though. First, there is absolutely no enforcement of such typing, which means that if the "type" changes in the future, you have documentation in your code that is linked to the code itself and much more difficult to change... which actually encourages the "out of date" comment problem. Secondly, it was popularized to such an extent as to be obnoxious.. leading to things like: for(int nCount=0;nCount10;nCount++); Thirdly, it gets unweildy for the cases when it begins to become useful, for instance a struct containing a struct of 2 strings, one null terminated and one not, and an int... at that point, I'm tempted to do hungarian on my weird pointer thingie, but my code will start to look like perl.

    2. Re:FYI by syousef · · Score: 2, Funny

      Charles Simonyi is the Hungarian in Hungarian notation (you know, m_lpszUsrTxt and the like).

      All in favour of shooting this guy off into space?

      The I's have it. Motion carried.

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    3. Re:FYI by EvanED · · Score: 2, Informative

      Did you read the link that was posted a couple comments up? Almost all of the original suggestions AREN'T putting the data type in the name. They're stuff like 'd' to mark that the variable is a delta -- x is an absolute position, dx is a difference between two points. If you see code like x1 + x2 then, that should raise your eyebrow. The linked article gives the example of using 'us' and 's' to prefix unsafe and safe strings respectively, where "unsafe" means "just came in over the network; protect against injection attacks". This is information that your IDE won't give you.

      Though to be fair, there are a number of things Simonyi suggested that *aren't* like that -- he suggests 'w' for 'word', 'b' for 'byte', 'p' for 'pointer', and maybe a couple others. 'sz' (null-terminated string) is sorta in between; it doesn't provide much semantic information, but it does provide a little, because does 'char* x' point to a single character or a string?

      Though even the ones that encode strict datatypes have a valuable heritage in BCPL, where there isn't typechecking.

    4. Re:FYI by tfinniga · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, it looks like you're using Hungarian to encode meaning into the variable name. That's great - variable name is a wonderful place to put descriptive information about what the variable is, and how it's used.

      I'm saying that there are a couple of different levels at which you can do this. If you're not using the variable in a given way very much, in the variable name is great. However, I may be spoiled, but I tend to use human-readable variable names. Compilers no longer have a limit to symbol names that's shorter than what I'm willing to type. Arbitrarily removing all the vowels from variable names doesn't really help readability. But on the other hand, it's not the end of the world - after reading Joel's short primer on Hungarian notation, I think I agree that the real evil is a convention that is based on data type name.

      The other point that I was trying to make is how great having multiple types for different usages can be, especially when you use them extensively. In the code I'm working on, we're dealing with polygonal meshes a lot - we've got vertices, edges, and faces all over the place. We tried using a simple int with notational marking, but we still got a few bugs where the wrong type of index was passed to a function - for example, you send a face index to deleteEdge. Then we made three types, VertexIndex, EdgeIndex, and FaceIndex. Now, that class of bug is guaranteed to be completely gone, for those types. There's no performance penalty. The only cost is moving semantic information from the variable name to the type. Is it worth it? Well, I guess it depends on how often you use the type, and what the potential for bugs is. We don't need to wait until new programmers know the conventions - in that part of the code, it is very, very difficult to use the wrong type.

      As for dynamically typed languages, I've used Python a bit, it's pretty cool.. :). I've heard that Ruby is good, but I haven't had a chance to try it. Matz recently spoke nearby, but I couldn't make it. I'll have to give it a look.. :)

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  14. Oh come on Charles... by hvnarsana · · Score: 5, Interesting

    .. do you really really think that to achieve either/or of the 3 goals you need to spend a truckload (or 10) of cash to go into space? Why not use the money to advocate better education, books, and a series of talks by prominent astronauts or the like? I find this to be a colossal waste of finances and time, which could be better utilized.

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    1. Re:Oh come on Charles... by kfg · · Score: 2, Informative
      Why not use the money to advocate better education, books, and a series of talks by prominent astronauts or the like?

      From Wikipedia:

      Simonyi has been an active philanthropist, establishing the Charles Simonyi Professor of the Public Understanding of Science at Oxford University, the first occupant of which is Richard Dawkins. In January 2004, Simonyi created the $50 million Charles Simonyi Fund for Arts and Sciences, through which Simonyi plans to support Seattle area arts, science, and educational programs. Initial grant recipients include the Seattle Symphony ($10 million), and the Seattle Public Library ($3 million). In 2005, the Fund donated $25 million to the Institute for Advanced Study.


      Apparently if you've got something approaching serious money there isn't any reason you can't do all that and go for a joy ride.

      KFG
  15. 1st Nerd?!?! What a crock! by cascadefx · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I guess the submitter (I hope it wasn't the editor's) didn't realize that a heck of a lot of physicists and astronomers and other hard core scientists have been to space way before Charles Simonyi. If his point was that he was the first somewhat famous computer geek to make it into space, he would be wrong again. Simonyi was beaten to the punch years ago by Mark Shuttleworth of Thawte and Ubunutu Linux fame.

  16. Whoever cares to know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    The last sentences means good luck Charles.

  17. Re:Sooo..... by scd · · Score: 2, Informative

    Almost all current astronauts are engineers and/or scientists, with PhD's and such.

  18. Re:Sooo..... by AJWM · · Score: 2, Informative

    but our first ones were fighter pilots, aka fighter jocks.

    Actually they were aerospace engineers and test pilots. They may have also been fighter jocks (although some flew other types of aircraft) since that's about the only way to rack up time on high performance jets, but at the time of astronaut selection they were working as test pilots. Most (all?) of them had degrees in aerospace engineering. (Armstrong was accepted to MIT, but ended up attending a different college).

    I wouldn't call them nerds, though.

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  19. Re:He invented Hungarian Notation by yo_tuco · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Why it's a good idea to embed the type of a variable in its name has forever been lost on me."

    szBeats szMe. szBut szMaybe szHis usHungarian szRoots szHad szSomething szTo szDo szWith szIt?

  20. sz_Hmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    sz_I p_guess u_congratulations sz_are m_in p_order.

  21. Geek Farm by deathy_epl+ccs · · Score: 5, Funny

    4 eyes good, 2 eyes bad.

    1. Re:Geek Farm by greenguy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Oh, for mod points.

      This is the best comment since... since...

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  22. Jó szerencse pölö means ... by nuzak · · Score: 2, Funny

    "My hovercraft is full of eels"?

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  23. He'll have a new job up there by cyclone96 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I work for NASA supporting the Space Station, and the irony of a Microsoft guy going up is pretty amusing.

    The crew has a network of laptops running WinXP to do non-critical support tasks, chiefly email. While they work pretty well and generally can be maintained from Houston, the crew does spend a fair amount of time keeping them working. You can often hear tales of woe with the network interspersed with operational discussions on the space to ground audio.

    For example, this is from the September 8, 2006 ISS status report posted at http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=21998

    Jeff's attempts yesterday to set up an Outlook email account for Soyuz taxi crewmember Anousheh Ansari were not successful. This is a repeat of a problem seen with previous email accounts for Soyuz taxi crewmembers. Plans are in work to give the SFP (Space Flight Participant) a regular ISS email account.

    I have the feeling that he is going to be jokingly dubbed the "new on-site IT support" by the commander as soon as he arrives.

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    1. Re:He'll have a new job up there by Johnny+Mnemonic · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Off-topic, but joking aside, I'm sorry to hear that much time is spent on such tasks. If I paid $20M to get to space, I wouldn't want to spend 30 minutes futzing with an email account; time is money, and not at an inexpensive rate.

      Why don't they use simpler systems that are less prone to issues than WinXP?

      Although space is a pretty complicated affair, and I can understand having complicated systems to support it, an email configuration doesn't seem to be something is interacts enough with the limitations of that environment that it should be complicated by it.

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  24. Uh, whaa? by Anubis350 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but isnt every Astronaut a nerd? How about any number of non-astro-scientists that I'm sure have been in space doing research?

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  25. Exact translation: by Gorimek · · Score: 5, Funny

    "My hovercraft is full of eels"

  26. Why Only the Rich and Uninspired? by Miracle+Jones · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Can we take up a collection to send a civilian into space with the ability to translate the experience into art? Somebody like Spider Robinson, or Tom Wolfe, perhaps? How long will the most liminal and mind-expanding human experience only be the province of those who lack the passion and subtlety to appreciate it, and who cannot, therefore, sublimate it for the rest of us? "Space. Wow. It was so damn empty. Man, you can see the whole earth! Even the dark bits, without people!" If we send somebody up who has the craft to record their experience in an engaging and creative way, then it is like sending ALL of us into space. I can think of no quicker way to give the space program the cultural boost it needs to survive increasing (understandable) voter apathy. Sure, Veruca Salt and Augustus Gloop like chocolate, but they don't deserve the factory...

  27. Leading to the Inevidable by Dark+Leaper · · Score: 2, Funny

    Don't trust him, he's from "The Company"! Ain't that right Bishop?

  28. That's lpszCharles lpszSimonyi, by melted · · Score: 2, Funny

    That's lpszCharles lpszSimonyi, thank you very much.

  29. Harrison Schmitt by RichardtheSmith · · Score: 4, Informative

    This guy was really the first nerd in space...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrison_Schmitt

    He was a geologist from Cal Tech who got to check out lunar geology
    up close up close and personal on the Apollo 17 mission.

    That's *very* nerdy, in a *very* cool kind of way. :)

  30. could you guys fix the hungarian text in the post? by darkeye · · Score: 5, Informative

    "Jó szerencse pölö Charles!" just doesn't make any sense. If you wanted to right: "Good luck, Charles!", you would say: "Jó szerencsét, Charles!". BTW, you'd rather say: "Jó szerencsét, Károly!" - as the name Charles is Károly in Hungarian. And yes, his original name is Simonyi Károly, written in this order as per the Hungarian custom of naming.

    I just wonder how the "pölö" part came into the sentence - as it's not a word in our language. The closest I can think of that it's the pronounciation of the abbreviation "pl.", which is short for "például" - meaning: "for example". I guess you guys asked someone: "How do I say Good Luck in Hungarian?", and the answer might have been: "Jó szerencse, pl." meaning: "For example: Jó szerencsét".

    Ákos
    a native Hungarian (speaker)

  31. Re:First?! by Dave+Emami · · Score: 2, Funny

    Nah, Ms. Ansari could probably get a date, so she doesn't count.

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  32. BUZZ ALDRIN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'd have guessed the first nerd in space would be Buzz Aldrin on Gemini XII, the last Gemini flight. He's the one with the PhD in Astronautics from MIT; the rest had masters or bachelor's, highest. Though, all of the Astronaut Group 1 and Astronaut Group 2 and Astronaut Group 3 were pretty much really smart people who have enough intelligence to be considered nerds, one going on to head up software on Apollo.

    Not sure if Joe Walker on X-15 flights 90 and 91 (which went past 100km in altitude) should be considered nerd, even with a Physics bachelors degree.

    Not sure about the Soviet astronauts' backgrounds either, but judging from the technical school educations, I'd assume it's similar to the astronautics and aeronautics degrees. But they did not appear to have the graduate degree like Aldrin.

  33. Just admit it Slashdotters... by DiamondGeezer · · Score: 2

    ...you're all completely jealous.

    So am I.

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  34. Nerd card revoked........ by CptnHarlock · · Score: 3, Informative

    The grammar nazi allready bashed you for the spelling so I'll take the second round.. :)

    Sputnic [sic] wasn't a dog. It was the first satelite launched into space. Sputnik means satelite but also companion, or even better "co-traveller" in russian. Laika was the first dog (living creature [not counting bacteria and the like clinging to the insides of satelites]) in space.

    Back on subject, this here Charles is definitely not the first geek/nerd in space. It's a joke to try and take the title just because he's got som media dweebs to back his claim. All true geeks/nerds know the truth anyway.. :P

    Cheers!..

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  35. The first nerd tourist was Greg Olsen by fbrehm · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Olsen

    He worked at RCA Laboratories the same time I did. I can testify that he is, indeed, a nerd.

    Fred

  36. Re:Sooo..... by hachete · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Read the Right Stuff. The scientists running the first missions wanted "Spam in a Can" - monkeys would have done them, and probably would have performed better than the astronauts. However, lowering the entry qualifications *so* low meant obvious problems in recruitment, with too many people flying. So the "obvious" pick was amongst fighter pilots and aerospace test pilots. the latter soon realised they were overly qualified (as both pilots and geeks) to run a mercury or an apollo rig but that got out-balanced by the inherent dangers of the missions. The tests they took to become astronauts could easily have been done by, oh, weight-lifters, long-distance runners etc. However, there's not much glory attached to sending runners into space ...

    The Soviets went through a similar process.

    The shuttle changes things again, but I would dispute that you need to be a fighter-jock to control it. A bomber or transport or even an airline pilot would be equally, if not better adapted, to deal with the shuttle controls. If they had kept the X15 program going, then that truly was a fighter-jocks dream aircraft and we'd've had returnable aircraft flying today rather than the flying brick of a shuttle.

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  37. Great. more Hungarian Notation? by Chapter80 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I can't wait to see what personSimonyi does to the spacecraftSoyuzTMA-10 conventionNamingConvention.

  38. first retard in space? by peter303 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Kind of retarded for not notiing their have been 40 PhDs in space already as astronauts or shuttle specialists. Plus three of the private astronauts made their fortunes in the computer industry.

  39. Re:He invented Hungarian Notation by Chacham · · Score: 2, Informative

    Parent post is an AC.

    Anyway, in case your interested.