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Hot Coffee's Effects On The GTA Mod Scene

simoniker writes "Over a year after the infamous 'Hot Coffee' incident, author and game designer Brenda Brathwaite explores the tragic aftermath on the GTA mod community — including interviews with 'Hot Coffee' creator PatrickW, the ESRB's Patricia Vance, and more." From the article: "The second version of San Andreas was made 'much more mod-resistant' according to Patrick, and among members of the community, there is doubt that future versions will be moddable at all. 'This has already made good people leave the scene,' Patrick adds. Among those that remain, there exists a certain amount of caution. 'Some innocent modding stuff isn't getting released,' says Patrick, 'because modders are afraid it might cause another controversy.'"

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  1. Media Hype alert! by miasmic · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "'Some innocent modding stuff isn't getting released,' says Patrick, 'because modders are afraid it might cause another controversy.'"

    Yeah and Elvis Presley lives at the bottom of my yard with the fairies. Since when have individuals on the internet been afraid of controversy? Sounds like a load of horsecrap to me. If they really are afraid of controversy, they must have a hugely inflated sense of self importance. Like anyone gives two craps if someone makes a mod in his bedroom, what are they worried about, their carefully crafted professional reputation on the modding scene? The cops coming round to arrest them? Give me a break.

  2. The innocent pay for the wrongdoings of others by Stormwatch · · Score: 3, Informative

    Hot coffee summary: the sex scenes were in the original game, but not accessible without hacking. Take2 could have simply clarified that. Hey, it's not like GTA is an all-ages game in the first place. Instead, they blamed modders, and turned a minor issue into a big mess.

  3. Re:Dumbest line ever by CrazyJim1 · · Score: 2, Funny

    There is no 'mod proof'. If modrs wanted to mod then it would happen.

    What goes for video games goes for Slashdot

  4. God ! by frost22 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    what are you ? all trolls ?

    Take2 was a victim. The modders were victim. But the super trolls around here blame victims only, apparently.

    Well trolls, I tell you what. Blame the fucking conservatives and bigots who produced that fucking "outcry". The fanatical save the children hypocrites. The right wing noise machines. All those braindead voters who vote brainfree teflon critters into congreß, or those fucktards who actually let preachers near politics, and all the other stupidos.

    But godamned stop blaming the victims.

    Sex is ok and a little sex game doesn't hurt the GTA target group. Fucking full stop! Morons who think sex is evil and try to force their sicko warped world view upon us belong into jails or asylums for the mad, not into congress and city halls! And doofus fucking stupid voter who vote the cretins into office should hide their heads in shame instead of trolling slashdot.

    My God, when will this country wake up !

    And to the fucking conservative fascists who will try to rate this as flamebait or overrated, you are sick little control freaks. This a hearttfelt political opinion about a very political topic affecting us all, so go and shove your worthless little plays.

    --
    ...and here I stand, with all my lore, poor fool, no wiser than before.
    1. Re:God ! by illspirit · · Score: 4, Informative

      The right wing noise machines? Conservative fascists? Erm, hello, like 90% of the politicans lined up with laws and threats of prosecution against us are left wing "liberals." Last I checked, Hillary Clinton, Joe Lieberman, Evan Bayh, Leland Yee, Rod Blagojevich, Kathleen Blanco, Roy Burrell, Jennifer Granholm, Phil Kellam, Rocky Delgadillo, Julia Boseman, Eliott Spitzer, and countless others were all Democrats. Click around on the legislation tracker map at Game Politcs, and look how many Ds pop up behind people's names, and then tell me again how this is all the fault of conservative "cretins." Or if you're too lazy to look, here's a little secret: Neither the Republicans or Democrats give a damn about your rights.

  5. In other news... by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...that time you were embarassed when friends/family/your date saw the pr0n jpeg you used as desktop wallpaper, has caused a lot of good people to leave the pr0n business.

  6. From someone who made some popular Morrowind mods by palladiate · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Despite the above posts that seem to be completely clueless about the modding communities, yes, this and the Oblivion kerfluffle have indeed killed an awful lot of interest in modding. 6 weeks after Morrowind's release, we had skins that replicated the toplessness you found in Arena and Daggerfall. Was it a big deal? Nope. Just about everyone who had the game then remembered playing the first two.

    Now? If you patch Oblivion, you can't modify models or skins without SERIOUS work because of, well, mostly because of Jack Thompson and his problems with sexuality, nudity, and a spot of violence.

    It isn't so much a fear of asshats like him on the boards and in chat, or the difficulty of hacking the new patches, but a fear of killing the game that we like. Is it too racy? Is it too violent? Do we mention Jack Thompson without his permission?

    Not all of us are up for a legal battle, or the notoriety of destroying a very awesome game and community. And although I loved playing game developer in Morrowind, I'll just have to stick to modding X3 or something that has ZERO possibility of offending someone...