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FBI Raids Security Researcher's Home

Sparr0 writes, "The FBI has raided the home of Christopher Soghoian, the grad student who created the NWA boarding pass site. Details can be found on his blog including a scanned copy of the warrant. The bad news is that he really did break the law. The good news is that Senator Charles Schumer did it first, 19 months ago, on an official government website no less. The outcome of this trial should be at least academically interesting. At best, it could result in nullifying some portion of the law(s) that the TSA operates under." Read on for Sparr0's take on what laws may apply in this case.

Boiling down some of the legalese, the charges (if any are filed) will be "conspiracy to knowingly present a false and fictitious claim upon or against the United States, or any department or agency thereof in violation of USC 18 (secs. 2, 371, 1036, 1343, 2318) and USC 49 (secs. 46314 and 46316) and 49 CFR (secs. 1540.103 and 1540.105)" (edited for brevity).

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  1. Too bad it has to be this way by Salvance · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Even faced with potential jail time, some people have a burning desire to be in the limelight. I wonder why Christopher Soghoian didn't just create a site anonymously. It would likely have the same effect, and he'd stay out of prison.

    It's unfortunate that exposing holes in our security gets no press until someone actually leverages the hole to cause harm. For years before 9/11, the U.S. knew our airports were pitifully insecure, particularly Boston Logan, yet failed to do anything about it. So even though we'll be safer as a result of Christopher's work, he may be in prison. Unfortunately our society aplauds the whistleblower only well after the whistle has been blown, and the government aplauds them almost never at all.

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    1. Re:Too bad it has to be this way by Simon+Garlick · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The fact that you think Soghoian should have HIDDEN HIS IDENTITY FROM THE GOVERNMENT in order to identify a flaw in official security processes says a lot about your government.

    2. Re:Too bad it has to be this way by lheal · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I agree with most of what you said, particularly the part you didn't say explicitly, which is that even grad students are smart enough to avoid breaking the law.

      There's a difference between pointing out security flaws, even giving detailed instructions, and providing a mechanism for breaking the law. Although one could argue that that shouldn't be illegal, I think the DMCA's provisions against circumventing a security mechanism probably apply. It all depends on what his software actually does, and how well his lawyer can explain that.

      On another point, the reason our airports were so lax before 9/11 is that we would not have put up with post-9/11 security back then.

      Actually, I just realized that I've not been on an airplane since 1999, and I don't know first hand how things are different.

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    3. Re:Too bad it has to be this way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I couldn't agree more that is speaks volumes that the poster doesn't recognize the problem with thinking it is normal to cloak "free speech" and hide in the shadows. What does that say about democratic ideals? Not much.

    4. Re:Too bad it has to be this way by bfields · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I wonder why Christopher Soghoian didn't just create a site anonymously.

      He's one guy, he's young, and he's been entirely open and straightforward about why he's doing this--that gives him a much better chance to shame the TSA. It would've hurt his case (with the public, at least) if he'd looked furtive.

      And someone with determination (not to mention search warrants) could probably figure out who he was eventually anyway.

      Unfortunately our society aplauds the whistleblower only well after the whistle has been blown

      Well, I'm applauding.

      You can also contribute to his legal defense fund, if you'd like to show your support.

    5. Re:Too bad it has to be this way by dsanfte · · Score: 3, Insightful
      There's a difference between pointing out security flaws, even giving detailed instructions, and providing a mechanism for breaking the law.


      If he had simply pointed out the hole, people would be calling him a fearmonger.

      Although one could argue that that shouldn't be illegal, I think the DMCA's provisions against circumventing a security mechanism probably apply.


      It would, if the DMCA didn't solely cover breaking security mechanisms that serve to prevent copyright infringement. That's not what happened here.

      On another point, the reason our airports were so lax before 9/11 is that we would not have put up with post-9/11 security back then. Actually, I just realized that I've not been on an airplane since 1999, and I don't know first hand how things are different.


      So you just discredited your own statement? Thanks?

      This is the type of thing that gets modded as Interesting on Slashdot?
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    6. Re:Too bad it has to be this way by ricree · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Like others have said, it wouldn't be all that hard for him to have done it anonymously, but he shouldn't have to in the first place.

    7. Re:Too bad it has to be this way by cecil_turtle · · Score: 3, Insightful

      ...made a powerful tool available for someone who intends to do harm.

      He saved the HTML from NWA's actual ticket printout page on their website, and made a form to fill in like 10 variables mad-libs style. I hardly call that "a powerful tool". More like saving somebody who knows how to right-click about 90 seconds of work to forge it themselves.

    8. Re:Too bad it has to be this way by jamesh · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Sensible disclosure of vulnerabilities improves security for everyone.

      Thoughtless disclosure has the potential to make things a lot worse. In the software example, if another ping of death exploit were found, simply announcing it to everyone in full would be foolish (unless you wanted to make a point and shame an organisation, then it would be foolish and malicious, and possibly illegal).

      The line between sensible and thoughtless disclosure is a tricky one though. If the secret society of bad guys already know about it then all bets are off, but how do you know?

      "Excuse me bad guys, are you aware that a ping with x, y and z parameters will crash a machine running w OS?"
      "We are now"
      "... doh!"

      It should certainly be illegal for a commercial organisation to fail to respond to notification of a vulnerability in their software, but again, under what parameters? Does Microsoft have any obligation to fix holes in Windows 95? Is there any obligation to fix holes in Linux 1.x.y? (and who's obligation is it?)

      There should be answers to all of these questions though, and a protocol to follow, so that this sort of mess doesn't happen.

    9. Re:Too bad it has to be this way by niiler · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If the government thinks that he is enabling the "terrorists", they may also see contributing to his defense fund as contributing to terrorists which would result in your loss of habeas corpus. That said, while I have mixed feelings about what he has done (in terms of leaving his identity out there vs. taking a clearly political stand), I do feel that his is a worthy cause.

      Just my 0.02 cents.

    10. Re:Too bad it has to be this way by psykocrime · · Score: 5, Insightful

      He didn't have to publicly supply a way to bypass security.

      He didn't.

      That is endangering everyone unnecessarily.

      No, it's not. As plenty of others have already pointed out, it doesn't matter if Osama f'in Bin Laden is sitting
      in the seat beside you on your flight... As long as he doesn't have a bomb, or any other means of creating problems
      on the flight, the fact that it's Osama is irrelevant. So these fake boarding passes *might* help somebody
      get on a plane who isn't allowed... big deal, they will still be searched, run through a metal detector, bomb-sniffing
      crap, etc. This is completely insignificant from a security standout.

      And even if it were a security flaw, people have to realize that with freedom comes danger. It's probably a little bit more
      dangerous to live in a very free country, than one with a strict totalitarian regime who controls every movement everybody makes... but most
      people will take that tradeoff. I know I sure will. "Give me Liberty or give me Death" is not just a cute sound bite to me.

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    11. Re:Too bad it has to be this way by psykocrime · · Score: 3, Insightful

      On another point, the reason our airports were so lax before 9/11 is that we would not have put up with post-9/11 security back then.

      And there's no good reason for us to put up with it now.

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    12. Re:Too bad it has to be this way by Salvance · · Score: 2, Insightful

      While his actions do endanger everyone's security, I disagree that he could have pursuaded officials to make security changes just by publicly announcing the flaw. If Senator Charles Schumer couldn't get security officials and Northwest to change their policies (which he tried to do), how can a grad student? The only way is to publicly bypass the security and make people worry.

      It's no different than computer viruses. Nobody really cares too much about computer security until they get their first virus/worm/etc.

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    13. Re:Too bad it has to be this way by Gandalf_the_Beardy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Maybe because they are spectacularly so good that no-one even notices them which is kind of the idea that any would be terrorist would want.....

    14. Re:Too bad it has to be this way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful
      He didn't have to publicly supply a way to bypass security. That is endangering everyone unnecessarily. First he should have contacted the airport security officials privately about it. If they did nothing, he should have then announced that he had found a way to bypass security, but not given any specifics. If they still did nothing, he should have publicly reported the problem.
      He was acting towards the end of your suggested sequence of events, it has already got to the point of being publicly reported - what Soghoian did was effectivly bring it to the public's attention.
      • This was such an obvious flaw - one could reasonably assume security officials knew about it
      • Many others - including Senator Schume, and Slate Magagine (http://www.slate.com/id/2113157/) had drawn attention to this "vulnerability" prior to Soghoian
      • Soghoian had tried to publicise the problem previously without sucess - then he had his brilliant idea of producing his PHP script to demonstrate the ease with which the vulnerability could be exploited - only by doing this did he really succeed in fulfiling his duty to publicly report the problem. He has done a better job than either the Senator or Slate Magazine or the others who knew about this flaw in bringing it to the public's attention - he should be applauded for doing that.
      • The fact that he has published on anonymity Preserving in P2P Networks strongly suggests that he could have acted anonymously if he had wanted to (or felt he needed to)
      I am quite shocked that if Slashdot was the Jury, and the Jury's opinions were the initial opinions of the individual Jurors and not those of the Jury acting as a committee following deliberation that we wouldn't have unaminously aquited Soghoian. I'm in the UK - and this scares me - given the state of the extridaition arrangements the UK has agreed to with the USA and the potential for indefinate imprisonment in the US for non-citizens. I've been to the US twice on business this year, reading this and the countless articles like it will certainly make me think twice before arranging another trip.
    15. Re:Too bad it has to be this way by monkeydo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This isn't disclosure of a vulnerability. This vulnerability has already been disclosed and beaten to death (on the floor of the US Congress even). It was discussed by Schneier and others as soon as the ID checks at the gate stopped. What this guy did was much more like publishing an exploit script. It's even worse than that, since he was actually generating the fake documents for people.

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    16. Re:Too bad it has to be this way by chazwurth · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You didn't see the spectacular failure of security in airports that preceded the Sept. 11th attacks by mere hours? Haven't you noticed the fact that the so-called security measures enacted since then are unlikely to prevent an identical attack? Or are you saying that because a successful attack hasn't been carried out recently, we are therefore secure? That's a very dangerous stance. It assumes that because vulnerabilities haven't been exploited, they aren't a problem. That's like saying that because some critical vulnerability in your operating system of choice hasn't been exploited yet, the vendor might as well not issue a fix; we should only fix a problem once half the boxes on the 'net have been infected with the as-yet-unwritten virus that exploits the problem. Soghoian pointed out a problem that has been known for months and yet hasn't been repaired. He did this to draw attention to the security theater that exists surrounding airline travel; he was trying to highlight the fact that our government doesn't take security seriously, but only tries to foster the appearance of safety while failing to address real issues.

      If you want another example, read this: http://www.swiss.ai.mit.edu/6805/student-papers/sp ring02-papers/caps.htmf

      For a wealth of information about problems with our airport and airline security, start reading archives of Bruce Schneier's Crypto-Gram: http://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram.html

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    17. Re:Too bad it has to be this way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I disagree, your shielding a security through obscurity model. he went public with something that was most likely being done elsewhere for more insidious purposes. to go back the trail of what shouldn't have been done in the first place is to go back to people using crappy printouts for boarding passes when they are supposedly trying to secure these places. I'm not an american, but i'm a cheapskate and i hate seeing a whole country keep dumping money into security snake-oil, if your country had another thousand men like him, you might actually get real security. but i digress, back to putting scotch tape on my window to prevent gas attacks...

  2. Real reason he is being arrested: by hsmith · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The gov't doesn't like to look bad. They don't like flaws being publically seen of their great "system" of boondoggles which they have created.

    We all now the TSA is a scam, we all know we are not one bit safer, we all know the airways are no better than they were before 9/11. Just a great hat trick.

  3. For his sake by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 4, Insightful
    For his sake I'm glad this is getting so much coverage. Not only will it hopefully make a lot of America realize how dumb our government is, and make them realize that Democrats can be just as authoritarian as Neocons...but most importantly, it makes it near impossible for the Feds to "disappear" him because he has the media spotlight on him and the second he goes missing the entire internet will raise a royal hell storm. And that is a PR shitfest that the GOP definitely does not want to have on their hands, especially around election time.

    Of course, at this point...I wonder if they even care that the public would be aware.

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    1. Re:For his sake by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yeah, like dimitri skylarov was all over the front pages of the newspapers, and CNN did a three hour special on software patents, and the Fox picked up on how regressive the DMCA was...

      Oh, wait... this is planet earth, I forgot.

  4. What did he expect? by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Look, if my house has poor security, you're still in trouble if you start a factory to create keys for criminals to break in.

    What did he expect from this? It doesn't matter how good or poor security is -- what matters is whether you conspired to break that security.

    What a fool. I have absolutely no sympathy for him. If he had just published a paper, then I'd be a bit more sympathetic. But the guy actively sought to bypass airline security. What, does the guy not realize that people are a WEE BIT CONCERNED these days about airline security?

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    1. Re:What did he expect? by illegalcortex · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Look, if my house has poor security, you're still in trouble if you start a factory to create keys for criminals to break in.


      You wanna rethink that analogy there, "Reality Master"? Cause I'm pretty sure they call those places "locksmiths."
  5. Cue typical slashdot pro-State responses... by dada21 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    1. "If you don't like it, move away." Considering the fact that Congress is severely limited by the Constitution in creating NO law that infringes on our God-given (or inherent, if you prefer) right to speak freely on our property, the laws listed above have nothing to do with what he did. In fact, his website IS his property, he rents it, and he's protected. Congress here should be the ones behind bars for continuing to violate the Constitution they took an oath to uphold.

    2. "He broke a law, he should go to jail." The court system should be mandated to tell the jurors in all trials about their right to nullify terrible laws. Jury nullifaction is more than a priviledge, it is a right even greater than serving on a jury.

    3. "He didn't do anything wrong." This shouldn't matter either way unless he violated someone's property or person himself. I find it outrageous that people are arrested for inciting violence -- the gun doesn't kill, the inciter doesn't kill, it is the person who physically performs a violent act that is the cause of the violence. Not only did he do nothing wrong, we shouldn't even be considering whether or not he did or didn't. Did he harm anyone physically? Did he physically steal anything? Did he trespass?

    On top of those 3, we should also realize that the laws pertaining to security are 100% unconstitutional. The airplanes are private. The airports should be privatized (I can't see how airports could be considered federally-regulated properties). The passengers are generally private citizens. The Constitution is clear on this, too -- it should be left up to the individual States and the people.

    This is what you get when you have democracy -- even a republican form of it.

    "Democracy is the most vile form of government...democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention: have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property: and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths." James Madison

    "Democracy... while it lasts is more bloody than either [aristocracy or monarchy]. Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There is never a democracy that did not commit suicide." John Adams

    The U.S. isn't going to hell in a handbasket, it's been there since 1913 (or 1865, if you consider the traitor Lincoln's actions).

    Thankfully, there are a great number of opportunities to vacate from the system without leaving the lands of the "Nation." I can only hope that more freedom lovers just stop voting for authority and move forward to taking that authority back.

  6. Not a terrorist by suso · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This guy is not a terrorist, he's a security researcher. I live in Bloomington as well and work with a guy who is taking a cryptographic protocols class with Chris. He says that Chris is a decent guy, which is probably the case. I for one commend Chris for releasing this kind of information to the public. Even if he had released it to the FAA or Northwest Airlines, its doubtful that the public would have ever known. He is simply doing what most security researchers do, its just that his research coincides with current hot topics in politics and public interest.

  7. Write to your senator now ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Dear Senator,

    I would like to bring your attention to the outrageous behaviour our government agencies have displayed regarding the matter of security researcher Christopher Soghoian's comments on the TSA security procedures.

    Quite frankly the FBI raid on his premises are beyond comprehension for a country that preaches freedom and respect for human rights.

    Not only would I like you to help in resolving Christopher's plight, I would also ask that you investigate and bring to the public's attention the true nature of the effectiveness of the TSA policies as well as to the rather offensive nature of the "secrecy" of the policies upheld by the organization.

    Public transparency of the government is very important to me and any help you can give to avoid being virtually disenfranchised due being unable to evaluate the performance of my elected officals is critical.

    Sincerely

  8. We need martial law now by bxbaser · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The only way to get this situation under control.

  9. What exactly were they looking for? by TheSHAD0W · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The man affirmed that he created the page, the FBI had plenty of grounds to charge him. Why search his premises? Looking for other dirt to kick up in case the judge disagrees with the prosecutor?

    1. Re:What exactly were they looking for? by jtobin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Possibly, but most likely to scare him. Especially given that they raided his house at 2AM. Their goal seems to be to try to frighten people out of questioning the authorities and the 'security' measures they've put in place (even when they're fundamentally flawed, ad in this case).

    2. Re:What exactly were they looking for? by loraksus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Harassment, mainly. He is looking at a period of several months and several appearances in court and discussions with his lawyer before he gets his computer and personal property back, assuming they aren't "lost" in the system.

      The repairs for any damage that the FBI did, include the maliciously broken window (really, the FBI doesn't know how to pick locks?) will come out of his pocket.

      And yes, now they can scan his hard drive for whatever they want, im / chat logs, "kiddie porn" (aka porn involving a girl who faked her ID, even if it is sold through regular channels under the belief that it is legal - it just takes 1 of these to get a mandatory sentence of several to a dozen years in prison, depending on the state).
      Anything that can be used for character assassination will be. It doesn't help that that congressman who is trying to look tough on terrorism opened his mouth either.

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    3. Re:What exactly were they looking for? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful
      The man affirmed that he created the page, the FBI had plenty of grounds to charge him. Why search his premises?
      According to his journal, the idiot talked with the FBI prior to the search warrant being issued. It didn't sound like he had a lawyer with him, either. Who knows what he blabbed about that could be used as cause for a warrant and additional charges.

      His blabbing almost certainly strengthened the government's case on the charges already in progress, too. Now, those words can be twisted and used against him to undermine his defense. He has really screwed himself over. If he had kept his god damn mouth closed, maybe he would have walked with only minor punishment. By blabbing, he probably took that off the table.

      Number one rule when dealing with the cops, _especially_ if they already have the goods on you: shut the fuck up! Nothing you can say is going to help. It can only hurt. It can only make the prosecution's job easier and the defense's job harder.
  10. Read The Declaration of Independence. by khasim · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Look at the bottom. Look at all those people who signed their names instead of putting "John Doe".

    Freedom requires that people stand up, publicly, for what they believe in. That is why the 1st Amendment reads:

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


    Simply striking against a convenient target does not get you any closer to being Free. Nor does it keep you Free.

    Freedom is not safe.
  11. A good time for prosecutorial DISCRETION by kaltkalt · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Even if he did break a law, and I'm a lawyer and I'm far from convinced that he did, this is a prime example of when the US Attorney should use some prosecutorial discretion and, after investigating the matter and being content with the subject's explanation as to what happened and why he did what he did, decide not to prosecute. The worst thing this guy did was act imprudently. No terrorists got on airplanes, nor could they have. The best thing this guy did, and I don't think there is any question about his intentions, is to bring attention to a security flaw. He took down the website when asked (maybe even prior to that) and nothing bad resulted from his actions. He had no intent to hurt anyone, no intent to steal or deprive anyone of property, and no intent to help anyone actually break the law. So, even if he could be prosecuted, he shouldn't be. Not everyone who breaks the law should be charged with a crime.

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  12. Re:CFR 49 says by ScrewMaster · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Doesn't matter. I don't even think the FBI much cares if they win or lose the case, or if it even goes to trial. What does matter is that they've terrified some other potential geeks from publishing anything else negative about the TSA or other government organ. It's a win-win from their perspective. Pretty much a lose-lose from where I'm sitting ... free speech takes another hit. This is exactly the kind of situation the Founders envisioned when they came up with free speech and plugged it into the Constitution. Here's someone that saw something wrong with government, and wanted the rest of us to know about it. So, of course, in true Constitutional spirit the FBI raids his place and charges him with a crime. Doesn't matter what crime, so long as the kid is terrorized sufficiently. I mean, there are so many laws on the books nowadays that everyone, and I mean everyone, is guilty of something and can be nailed to a cross for little reason, or no reason at all.

    Cripes.

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  13. Who are the terrorists in this case? by PhunkySchtuff · · Score: 5, Insightful
    My dictionary definition of a terrorist:
    terrorist noun A person who uses terrorism in the pursuit of political aims.
    terrorism noun The use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

    I quote from his blog:

    I didn't sleep at home last night. It's fair to say I was rather shaken up.

    I came back today, to find the glass on the front door smashed.

    Inside, is a rather ransacked home, a search warrant taped to my kitchen table, a total absence of computers - and various other important things. I have no idea what time they actually performed the search, but the warrant was approved at 2AM. I'm sincerely glad I wasn't in bed when they raided the house. That would have been even more scary.


    This is a case of classic police-state gestapo tactics.
    This guy hasn't done anything wrong, he hasn't even hilighted a previously unknown security flaw, and now he's subject to this kind of treatment...
  14. Re:Legal Defense by ThatGuyPat · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "The fact that he is going through this for pointing out a flaw is pretty horrifying."

    Pointing out a flaw and developing a tool to exploit it are two different things.

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  15. The only way to be certain... by jd · · Score: 4, Insightful
    ...of what the bad guys know is to tell them and mark it off on the list. Anything else is down to chance.


    The chance of them knowing is the probability of them finding the information multiplied by the probability of knowing the value multiplied by the probability of producing a workable exploit.


    The chance of you knowing if they know is the probability of them knowing multiplied by the probability of you knowing who the bad guys even are, multiplied by the probability of obtaining real information (they can jam anyone monitoring them by flooding the information space with junk information), multiplied by the probability of you knowing you even have real information, multiplied by the probability of being able to determine what the information actually means.


    Counterintelligence is an exceptionally difficult field with a painfully poor track record. Most published successes have been by a series of sheer fluke events and staggering luck. Most published failures were unlikely to be anything else. We don't know about the unpublished stuff, but percentagewise, are we more likely to see bragging over achievements or failures, if both can be equally hidden?


    I'm not saying that everything should be published, merely that it should not be assumed that not publishing is the same as others not knowing.


    Now, can a case ever be made for publishing everything? Yes. Game Theory requires that all "full information scenarios" have a strategy for one side and one side only that will ALWAYS result in the winning conditions being met, no matter what the other side does. It is possible to imagine situations, particularly in computing where there is essentially no randomness and a "full information scenario" is possible, where the outcome can be guaranteed, if you want it to be.


    No matter what anybody else might say, it is not the job of an enemy to make your life easy, so we shouldn't expect them to. We should expect them to do the researcxh, the legwork, the analysis to figure everything out. They might indeed just wait until someone tells them, but that should be a bonus. It should not be your modus operandi. In computer security, you must assume that there are opponents out there who could have all of the industry-standard backdoor passwords, a complete printout of every Operating System and network device QA test that failed and got overlooked, and a copy of the highest-end vulnerability scanner the commercial sector has going for it.


    Hell, we know that a Russian spammer got a tier-1 backbone provider to turn off Blue Frog's Internet connectivity. Turning off a link like that is very traceable, but appears to have been regarded as mere amusement for the backbone provider. The same provider is hardly likely to show scruples when it comes to handing out internal or commercially-sensitive data, software or anything else. Given the repeatedly low scores on security for many US government departments and the almost routine mishandling of classified data, there are probably those in the information black markets who know more national secrets than the entire White House combined. If one backbone provider is riddled with corruption and pwned by organized crime, then we must assume that such people are unlikely to be avoiding big money out of a sense of decency and moral fortitude.


    But if the most dangerous people have the most dangerous information already - and that includes whatever terrorists might actually exist - then most of the obscurity only serves to increase the value of what has already been stolen. This makes the thieves rich, the criminals dangerous, and the politicians popular for appearing to do something, but it doesn't make anyone else - users, vendors, bystanders - any better off at all. Illusions are fun on the stage, but they should be left there.

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  16. Re:In English, please? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    And there's only one use for ethereal: to read network traffic you don't otherwise have access to. There's only one use for for a password cracker. The legitimate uses differ from the illegitimate uses only in who's using the tools, not what they're doing with them. If you can say that Kismet is legal because I can use it to hack my own network, then I can say that this researcher's tool is legit because airlines and airports can use it to test their own security systems.

    Of course he was stupid to publish it, but it shouldn't be stupid. Publishing security vulnerabilities that already exist, and even exploits for those vulnerabilities, shouldn't get you investigated by the FBI.

  17. It Doesn't Have To Be This Way by logicnazi · · Score: 2, Insightful

    We won't be ANY safer after Christopher's work. Not because he was wrong about his claims but because he is right. We only have security theatre.

    No rational allocation of resources would have beefed up passenger screening after 9/11. I don't care if you do get a AK-47 on a plane nowadays you won't be able to hijack it and crash it into a building for the simple reason that the people on the plane KNOW they will die if they let you fly the plane.

    9/11 was a one time deal. It worked because no one expected terrorists to fly planes into buildings. After 9/11 any hijacking would end like flight 82. While this would be a horrible tragedy it would be far easier to create such a tragedy with surface to air missiles, gas attacks in subways or a hundred other ways we aren't guarding against.

    The real risk now is new attacks not a repeat of 9/11. We should be spending our money securing chemical plants or defending our water supply not inconveniencing people in airports. Any security in airports beyond pre 9/11 levels is nothing but a show designed to make people think they are safer while wasting resources.

    Christopher is showing that the post 9/11 security measures are total theater. He isn't being arrested because he put people at risk, he is being arrested because he made uncomfortable.

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  18. Re:No, not necessarily by illegalcortex · · Score: 2, Insightful

    First you have to define aiding and abetting, and that ain't exactly a cut and dried issue. For example, if I loan a friend my car, I am not a principal to him using it to run over the ambassador to Sweden. Likewise, you first have to show that his site actually significantly aided anyone in committing said crime. As you said, it comes dow to how he is "aiding" these people. Considering the incredibly low hurdle of forging boarding passes, I do not thing he can be considered as significantly aiding. Anyone with a scanner, a printer, and Microsoft Paint could do this. The fact that this kind of thing is so dirt simple is proof enough that no one needs any help.

    Second, back to the issue of aiding and abetting someone to commit the crime. Who was the person who committed the crime? Without that person, 18 USC 2 is irrelevant anyway.

    Third, I think both Soghoian and Schumer would fall under free speech. Both were trying to speak out about the holes in the security. Both Schumers HOWTO and Soghoian's demonstration site could reasonably fall under that kind of speech.