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Why Gaming Sucks On Linux

lseltzer writes "Efforts have been made to improve the situation, but things have actually gotten worse for gaming on Linux rather than better. If you're a gamer you're just plain better off running Windows and dual-booting (or VMing) between the two operating systems than hoping your games will run in Cedega or some such product." From the article: "So where does all of this leave Linux gamers? One word: Windows. Yep, you read that right. If you're a gamer, do yourself a favor and just buy a copy of Windows and set up a dual-boot system. Why bother to torture yourself with the headaches presented by Linux gaming? Why should you continually not have the games you want to play? Why settle for half-assed solutions that might or might not run the games you crave so desperately?"

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  1. Not THAT bad by Reapman · · Score: 4, Informative

    Oh it's not that bad I don't think... yeah if your a gamer run Windows, but Linux is hardly the lost cause this summary makes it out to be. The only game I play right now that I need Windows for is FFXI. In Linux I play Civ4, WoW, UT'04 without problems (Civ4 does crash time to time, but it does in Windows too). I'm actually impressed with how far it's gotten over the years. Long way to go, but keep up the good work the guys at Wine and Cedega (yes I bought Cedega, and yes I got my moneys worth outa it in my opinion)

  2. OpenGL by aralin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It is all about OpenGL vs DirectX. As long as developers will opt for DirectX, the games are not going to be portable to Mac OS X and Linux. And if the trend ever reverses, we might have a chance. Anyway, most people just buy a game console and are done with it. But there is a ray of hope in the fact that these consoles start to use Linux and OpenGL to run/make games. So theoretically...

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    If programs would be read like poetry, most programmers would be Vogons.
  3. Well, thanks slashdot by michaelsimms · · Score: 5, Insightful
    You know, myself and others at Tux Games and LGP work long long hours to get games on Linux. This week Ive done about 30 hours and so far its only the end of tuesday. Thanks for your support, slashdot, in telling me and my staff that we are wasting our time.


    It really drives me mad when slashdot refuses to post articles about the last 3 games we released, despite at least 30 or 40 people (that I know of) sending in messages about it, and then go criticise the state of Linux games. If they did their bit maybe our company would be in a better position to get the licenses for more games.

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    Tux Games. Your complete source for native Linux games.
    1. Re:Well, thanks slashdot by michaelsimms · · Score: 4, Informative

      > Maybe if LGP didn't sell a game for £20.00, then sell an UPDATE for £3.00 which actually doesn't add any
      > new functionality, but merely provides support for that game from LGP and the ability to install future
      > updates, people would be more receptive.

      Yessss and if you had RESEARCHED this properly you would understand. The update we sell is for the LOKI version so that to get support people dont have to pay and get a whole new game. We arent going to support the loki version because a) its not our game, we dont have the source, and b) its not our game. The update is sold so people get a supported game for LESS.

      > Maybe if Tux Games didn't charge $35 more for Quake IV than Best Buy does for the Windows version, they'd
      > get more sales.

      We are in the UK, we have to pay a lot more for the games we buy. We actually make NO PROFIT on over half of the games we sell. We sell them at cost price.

      > What do you mean by doing "their bit"? Should they keep their mouth shut about the problems they have
      > running the games they want to play, yet shout from the rooftops when something actually IS released that
      > supports Linux?

      No but nor should they ignore any progress Linux gaming makes and criticise Linux gaming on a regular basis. Some of each would be nice.

      > Should they purchase games they don't want, to generate more sales for you, which is really
      > the only thing that's going to entice developers to give your company licenses for more games.

      If slashdot reports on the games that are available, sales go up. Thats a fact of the slashdot effect. If we get more sales we can afford more licenses. That is the fact of licensing games. Companies that we license games from care about MONEY, and if we sell more games we license bigger games. I dont want ANYONE to buy games they dont want, but letting people know what is out there would allow people to know about them and buy them IF they want.

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      Tux Games. Your complete source for native Linux games.
  4. Re:So where does all of this leave Linux gamers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I used to also get frustrated that I couldn't play
    any of the windows games on my Linux box and that
    none (or nearly none) of the game makers would port
    their games to Linux. It took me a long time to realize
    what the problem was:

    Simply put, the game makers can't keep up with the pace
    of Linux. Let me try to explain what I mean. Take a look
    for example at how many Linux distros there are out there:
    something like 300 now or so based on distrowatch.org.

    And some of those distros run on different hardware platforms
    than just x86.

    On top of that, not every Linux distro has the same versions
    of the same libraries at the same time with the same patches
    and compilation options.

    There is no way that the proprietary software makers can
    keep up. That's why Oracle only supports RedHat Linux and
    only for certain versions. This is why Adobe's effort to
    provide 1 flash plugin (version 9) for _all_ Linux distros
    by doing some funky static compiling is at best misguided
    and at worst massively brain damaged and stupid because it
    won't work for any platform except for x86.

    It's no wonder that the game makers prefer writing to windows:
    It's not just that windows has 90% market share -- what kind of
    profit oriented businessman would say: I could make 10% more
    profit with a little bit more work --- but screw that, 90% is
    good enough at most! And that's assuming they _could_ get massive
    penetration when realistically all they could expect is at most
    10% of the windows population.

    The genius of Microsoft Windows is _not_ that it's ubiquitous.
    The genius of Microsoft Windows is that it's stably obsolete ---
    it's glacial in its pace of development. Five freakin' years of
    the _same_ libraries! My God, that's hog heaven for proprietary
    software makers
    !

    Contrast that with the Linux world, where 6 months is a lifetime.
    If you're software is older than 6 months, it's already obsolete
    and might as well be dead. The only kind of software that could
    survive that kind of testosterone laced Darwinian death-to-the-weak
    Jungle is open sourced software, and only in the case that the
    Linux distros maintain the downstreams versions of the software
    package to guarantee it will work. So, it's no surprise to see
    that the only (popular) games that run on Linux natively are
    open source games: Tuxracer, frozen bubbles, gcompris, bzflag,
    cube, nethack and all its variants, blob wars, etc.

    The only counterexamples that come to my mind are:
    Enemy Territory. Are there any others?

    --Johnny doesn't use proprietary software if he can help it.

  5. Since Loki's last game by michaelsimms · · Score: 4, Informative
    Since Loki died, the following games have been released.

    Majesty Gold
    Return to Castle Wolfenstein
    Creatures Internet Edition
    Doom 3
    Unreal Tournament 2003
    Candy Cruncher
    Uplink
    Medal of Honor: Allied Assault
    Neverwinter Nights: Shadows of Undrentide
    Hyperspace Delivery Boy
    NingPo MahJong
    Soul Ride
    Savage: The Battle for Newerth
    Neverwinter Nights: Hordes of the Underdark
    Dominions II: The Ascension Wars
    Gorky 17
    Software Tycoon
    Unreal Tournament 2004
    Northland
    Postal 2: Share the Pain
    Darwinia
    Doom 3: Resurrection of Evil
    Robin Hood: The Legend of Sherwood
    X2: The Threat
    Quake IV
    Tribal Trouble
    Airline Tycoon Deluxe
    Cold War
    Dominions 3: The Awakening

    A lot of these games may be older, but not all of them, and most of them are top notch and FUN games. Go try some, and enjoy them! Natively, no need for emulators, or rebooting. Now if you can tell me that there is no way to play games on Linux, I think I'll have to just disagree.

    Right now we are working on a number of deals for some games that will be far better than anything Loki managed to publish. Of course when we do, I am sure slashdot will ignore the release announcements and continue to report on the death of Linux gaming.

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    Tux Games. Your complete source for native Linux games.
  6. Re:There are indies who support linux by ProppaT · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And you know what? They're probably wasting their time. The people who are interested in indie games are going to be gaming hobbiests who are gonna have a closet full of consoles and a Windows machine. There's the techie/computer nerd crossover, but even the majority of that crowd doesn't use linux.

    Gaming on Linux sucks because users need a reason to switch to Linux first to make it a viable platform. OSX is a success and it still sucks for gaming, why should Linux be any better? "Because it's free and open source and you should support open source" isn't really an answer...

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  7. No games? by Klaidas · · Score: 4, Funny

    Huh, what do you mean no games?! There are plenty of them:
    1. Extreme Man Page Reading
    2. Obscure error puzzle palace
    3. Mega Nmap Death Ping
    4. Ksolitaire
    5. sudo
    6. IRC
    7. Learning Emacs
    I could go on and on!
    Ok, let's close the sarcasm tag for now. This is not news. How did it get to the front page? It has been obvious for years.