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Linux Users Banned From World of Warcraft?

Turmoyl writes "Many Cedega (formerly WINEX) users claim to have been mistakenly caught up in a security sweep of the U.S. game servers performed by Blizzard's World of Warcraft Game Master (GM) staff. Affected users received the same strongly-worded 'Notice of Account Closure' email messages that true bot users did, in which they were accused of the 'Use of Third Party Automation Software.' While diagnosis of this event continues early speculation points to Blizzard's use of the Warden anti-cheating spyware application that is bundled with World of Warcraft, and the odd things that may have been produced by it when it was run via Cedega. Emails to World of Warcraft's Account Administration staff continue to go unanswered while the list of affected people continues to grow."

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  1. Glad I left months ago... by Zondar · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    The first 59 levels were great. 60+ was a whole different game.

    Warden was just the last reason I needed to leave the game. A poorly designed client/server infrastructure is no excuse for Blizz snooping outside it's own client's memory space.

    1. Re:Glad I left months ago... by MrPink2U · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      I wish I could design a poorly written client/server infrastructure. /sigh

  2. WoW -- failing due to its success by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    When WoW went GA in late '04, the 1-60 run was great. Good quest chains, plenty of instances to go do that were original. Once 60, MC and other raids were doable and took some smarts to deal with each boss's tactics.

    Fast forward two years. No expansions, no significant new content other than a raid zone or two, a hastily-made "honor" system which forces people to have to play daily in order to not lose rank, battlegrounds which two of which can be won constantly by exploiting terrain, or just using good ol' speedhacks.

    There is no challenge in WoW anymore, just grinding alts to exalted with various factions, or maybe trying to rank in PvP.

    In the same two years, Everquest 2 has gone through some major changes, has had two, going on three major expansions. Everquest has had four expansions, each of which added about as much territory as WoW's single expansion purports to add.

    To boot, Blizzard still hasn't gotten a handle on network stability and server stability, something which SOE and other MMO makers got to a stable level in about a year or two of having the game running. EQ servers can be up for weeks if not months.

    Blizzard *had* a success, but the Burning Crusade expansion is too little, too late. A good number of my former WoW guildies are going back to their raid guilds to explore the new Kelethin in EQ2, or shake down Ashengate for high-end loot in EQ1. There is just a point where even though Blizzard had a high quality product, not maintaining it has soured it for a lot of the players.

    EQ3... er Vanguard likely will make a dent in WoW when it goes GA. The hardcore PvE and raiding types will leave, leaving WoW to the b.net kiddies.

    SOE sucks and has their own issues/bugs, especially their new customer service ticket system, but they know their stuff, and the servers are up when you log in.

  3. The eternal struggle by RomulusNR · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Why is there such a constant war between game development and alternative OSes? There is a dearth of games for Linux -- none save perhaps some iD titles are major games. It's a disconnect -- Geeks are generally inclined to be both gamers and OSSers, yet no major games run on OSS OSes natively.

    IME, Wine doesn't work out of the box, but even if it did, IMO it's a cheat around practicing an OSS life. Running Wine is a surrender to the Microsoft hegemony. Running Wine says, I can't do it all with Linux, I need to have Windows. You can tell yourself it's really empowerment, or that emulation isn't the same thing as adoption or embracement, but I think you're kidding yourself. You're giving in to Windows dominance. The game studios more or less force you to in order to play the games everyone else is playing.

    Is there in fact no real overlap between gamer geeks and OSS geeks? Are there no movements within game housen to say "Hey, we support Windows and Mac, why not support Linux too?" Would porting to a third platform -- one that is openly documented -- be that much more difficult than porting to a second?

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    Terrorists can attack freedom, but only Congress can destroy it.
    1. Re:The eternal struggle by petrus4 · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      IME, Wine doesn't work out of the box, but even if it did, IMO it's a cheat around practicing an OSS life. Running Wine is a surrender to the Microsoft hegemony.

      Fuck off.

      I am fed up with seeing this kind of self-righteous, autistic rubbish on Slashdot. Blizzard and Microsoft are two completely seperate companies; as you've already said, the game has an OSX port, and I bet you wouldn't take that stance with people running the OSX version on either a Mac *or* under Linux/FreeBSD if that were possible.

      It is exactly such gloriously rational, objective individuals such as yourself that are the reason why I can almost promise you that we will *never* see a Linux port (or even an attempt at such) of WoW. Another group of such geniuses ended up in court with Blizzard over the bnetd project; that in conjunction with the amount Battlenet was being hacked even before that gave the company a siege mentality. The experience they've had with the online "community" has caused them to adopt an almost totally adversarial default view of it...and I personally don't blame them. I know the groupthink around here says that corporations are evil by definition, but Blizzard are one case where in my own opinion there has been abuse both given *and* received. Battlenet has been hacked constantly, every possible means by which any of their online applications could be subverted has been exploited, and Blizzard staff have had to deal with being inundated with vitriol on an ongoing basis by sociopathic adolescents. The plutocrats at the top of the company might be worth {m,b}illions, but there are one heck of a lot of other people in the proverbial trenches within the company who are not, and who do not deserve a lot of the shit that they have had to deal with.

      I am sick of every last one of the smug, self-satisfied Marxist hypocrites that I encounter on this site on a daily basis; people who insist on continually trying to dictate how others should think, act, and live. It's also always the same tired Aspergian screed:- do not *dare* use any commercial software yourself; worship without question that autocratic sack of Stalinist vomit Richard Stallman and obey his every decree, regardless of consistency or logic; and above all, never, NEVER engage in any form of activity whatsoever that could even be remotely construed as capitalist.

      I'm also sick of these same people condemning others for such pathetic things as the use of binary hardware drivers; most such people who behave as though they "own" Linux and that anyone who uses it is somehow on their turf don't in fact own jack shit. I've spoken to people who actually *do* write code for Linux before, and they virtually never have the same attitudes themselves that the armchair zealots do.

      For the love of God, stop fucking trying to tell me and everyone else how we should live, and realise that by doing that you're no better than what you claim Microsoft are trying to do themselves. If we want to use FOSS, we will. If we want to use Microsoft's (or anyone else's) closed source, proprietary stuff, we will. Stop acting as though Linux is something that you own and that the rest of the population can't use it unless we adhere to your decrees...because you can't stop anyone from doing so. I realise however, that all of the other people in the Linux community who act like this *only* do because of a need to unquestioningly emulate Richard Stallman, and that he is the source of this particular sickness...that is the main reason why I have grown to passionately hate that man to the extent that I now do.

      Dictating people's actions in any context is NOT promoting freedom. Mod me down, FSF cowards, like you always do. I'm aware that you don't have the courage, integrity, lucidity, or intelligence necessary to refute what I say on its' own merits, so attempting to silence me is really the only thing you *can* do.

  4. Re:there is always an exception to the rule by SillySnake · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    If she's looking for something a little different I mod for a private server. You can find out a little about the mod on my site: http://www.wartsworld.com/Diablo/ or the site that hosts the mod http://www.hardcoreplayerz.com/

  5. The Story of a Cheater by Jekler · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    The Story of a Cheater

    I've got a friend who's a cheater. Most recently the game he is cheating at is Rakion. But that's not the first or last game he's going to cheat at. He starts every game the same, playing legitimately for a couple weeks, then he starts talking about people he notices cheating, at first he takes screenshots and reports the cheaters, but he's impatient. If the people he reports aren't punished immediately he gets mad and thinks the company doesn't care about the game. [That's the point where I can see he's getting ready to do it himself]

    About two weeks into playing, he starts sending private messages to cheaters and gets to be acquaintances with them. A couple more days go by and he's running a cheat himself. He'll justify it by saying the company doesn't care anyway because they don't stop cheaters (implying the company tacitly approves of his behavior). A week or two later he'll get caught and dealt some kind of punishment. If it's not a complete ban he'll stop cheating for a little while, but then cheaters who get away with it bother him more than ever, he goes on this hypocritical/psychotic rampage reporting cheaters by the dozen, essentially trying to harass the company into dealing with cheaters. That lasts for about a week before he starts cheating again, and gets another punishment. At that point, he thinks he's smarter than the game company, so he'll find little ways to cheat, small exploits that he thinks will go unnoticed. Instead of obvious cheats, he tries adjusting game properties by small values he thinks no one will notice. For example, instead of cheating to gain infinite health, he boosts his health by 5%-10%. That goes on for maybe another month until the company bans him permanently.

    At that point he gets self-righteous and rants about the following topics in no specific order:

    • They drove him to it by the game's rules being too restrictive
    • The GMs are losers who have nothing better to do than to spy on someone who isn't hurting anyone
    • There are worse cheaters out there to catch, it doesn't make sense that they target him
    • He didn't know the exploit he was using was considered cheating
    • He thought the cheat program was just a stat tracker
    • The game sucks anyway
    • Now they're not going to get any money out of him (He usually never paid for the game and wouldn't fork over a dime even if he played for 50 years)

    It's not any specific game, it's every game he plays, the same cycle. I try to keep him honest, inspire him to take pleasure in normal gaming behavior, but he can't. He's supernaturally compelled to cheat. It's disappointing because I don't get to play games with him that we could enjoy together. It's always fun for the first couple of weeks, and I'm always thoroughly convinced that he's really not going to cheat this time, but after he breaks into the cheating cycle I distance my play from him because I don't want to play with or against someone I know is cheating, and I don't want my accounts to become associated with his in the eyes of the GMs (which has happened on more than one occasion).

    One day, I actually got a phone call from a GM that wanted to know how I knew him and wanted to know how he convinced me to open an account for him after he got banned. This wasn't the first time he was banned, he had received a lifetime ban from this game 5 or 6 times, but he always finds ways to get someone to let them use their account. The GM discovered that he was playing on my account because my friend told one of his game acquaintances who he was. He revels in infamy. He can't play a game for the game's sake, he needs people to know who he is. Even if it means that his best friend's account is in jeopardy, he'd rather screw his friend over than risk having people in a game not know how clever he is in circumventing the system. Before I gave him access to a slot on my account, I pleaded with him to just play the game and not tell anyone who he was