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Mark Cuban Declares War on GooTube
PreacherTom writes "Mark Cuban — the billionaire owner of the Dallas Mavericks, tech entrepreneur, and self-proclaimed 'blog maverick' — has always been outspoken in his ridicule of Google and YouTube. Now, it appears he's willing to put his money where his mouth is. Cuban is so convinced that GooTube will be a failure that he is in the process of acquiring the news agency owned by Robert Tur, currently involved in serious litigation with Google over copyright violations. With billions on both sides, this could be a real clash of the titans."
Yeah, it could be, but we're calling it "GooTube".
The man is so convinced that google/youtube will fail, he's actually going to jump in the ring to try to make it happen? Umm... Someone should just give this guy a hobby.
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Demented But Determined.
Just like the morons that bought broadcast.com
"Some days you just can't get rid of a bomb."
Cuban is so convinced that GooTube will be a failure that he is in the process of acquiring the news agency owned by Robert Tur, currently involved in serious litigation with Google over copyright violations.
In retaliation, Sergey Brin has just announced plans to buy the L.A. Clippers.
When you have nothing left to burn you must set yourself on fire
Okay, I'm puzzled. The EFF defending someone sued by, say, the RIAA, is to support the individual who is being overwhelmed by a large corporation due to a questionable law. And one could argue Cuban is just doing something similar-- supporting a lawsuit of an individual who feels a corporation has infringed on their rights in an area where the law is murky.
However, supporting an individual's lawsuit, not because of the principal involved, but because you don't like them and think they're stupid, that's... well, childish. That's putting ego as more important than justice, and in theory, that's what the whole court system is supposed to prevent.
Isn't this just a form of vigilante justice by Cuban? "I don't like 'em, so they're going down."
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Jeez, Mark Cuban is a whiney little brat (or substitute your own word that begins with a B here). You guys need to learn that just because you have all the money you don't get to make all of the rules. Most of them, sure, but not all. Go to news.google.com and search for Mark Cuban and see for yourself...
Mark Cuban is a maverick in a lot of ways. I have actually had the pleasure of meeting him several times during the course of my previous job here in Dallas, and in-person and in everday situations (I've spoken with him both in a business and casual setting), he is a cordial, and generally "normal" person. But he is not not stupid. Maverick is a good word for him, as he may not always be diplomatic or smart about his emotional reactions, but he is definitely not dumb when it comes to many business decisions. My question is: what is he getting out of this? Is it a pride thing? So needs to be right he's cast his lot with the opponents? The money motivator is there, but it's not like he needs more. I think he may be bored and just needs something to focus on that he feels is a sure thing.
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Why you ask would an owner of a sports franchise care? Because he isn't just the owner the the Dallas Mavericks. He is a media guy who owns HD-Net. An broadcasting and media company that creates HD media and of course the last thing he wants is his media to appear on YouTube. He is a wannbe Ted Turner/Rupert Murdoc.
Who do you think will win ?
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Image if people put that much effort/money into helping out their communities instead of childish vendettas.
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There are lots of people out there throwing the little bits of money they have at charities and other causes that they think will make the world a better place.
Contrast with this guy.
YouTube and Google Video *are* full of copyrighted material. They *should* have some liability.
Don't get me wrong. I think that the so-called "content-providers" should be HAPPY about the free advertising they get when clips of their stuff are posted on those sites. But we all know that they can't stand it, and that it is illegal. It probably shouldn't be, but it is.
And you know what? It doesn't seem fair that in a world where the RIAA is forcing grandmothers to cough up thousands and thousands of dollars for unknowingly sharing Britney Spears tunes from their PC, that big corporations like Google get a free ride.
If Cuban is successful in getting a judge to rule that takedown is no longer good enough to prevent a site being sued for copyright infringement, how long do you think it'll be before no site allows anything to be uploaded, as they can no longer afford the resources to work out if it's copyright or not, and can't afford the legal fees for even a few infringements?
This would be disastrous for the net. And for everyone in general, apart from those big media conglomerates who only transmit on their own content. This could, in one fell swoop, turn the internet from the mass of information it is now to just another broadcast mechanism for the big distribution channels (*IAA etc).
Mark Cuban made his money selling Broadcast.com to Yahoo, so is it possible he still has a stake in Yahoo and this is nothing more than a territorial piss and moan contest at the competition?
According to Wikipedia, Mark Cuban was a software salesman who became rich through selling his company. He's a libertarian and objectivist. He's not a moron, and certainly not a suit. I may disagree with his attack on Google here, but that doesn't mean I think he's stupid.
You are reading a copy of my copyrighted post.
Google/YouTube did not upload copyrighted material to itself and it is not responsible for policing itself. If a copyright holder finds material they report it and it gets pulled.
The counter-argument is that should there be a system of active moderation? Well, I look at this way. Should Ginsu send a man 'round to every customer's house every now and then to ensure that no one is misusing their Ginsu knife?
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The DMCA is supposed to mean that YouTube and Google are not responsible for what their users upload, but are obliged to remove all copyrighted material when requested to do so by the copyright holders.
/. where anyone can upload copyrighted material.
This is one thing the DMCA got right, without such a protection of service providers, it would be impossible to run a site like
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It goes from God, to Jerry, to me.
Marks skill was getting rich, but can he juggle 5 balls ? wheelie a bike ? grind a rail on a skateboard ? fly a helicopter ? draw a picture well ?
Dude, Mark Cuban can totally wheelie a bike and grind a rail on a skateboard.
This one time, he was skating and I saw him do a totally gnarly 360 off of some dude's face while the dude was all screaming like "NO WAY!" and then Mark Cuban landed in Bolivia and did an ollie right over these military drug guys with machine guns that were all shooting in the air so he jumped off the skateboard in mid-air and threw it at them and it hit all three of them at once so they were like "WHOA!" and then they got knocked out so Mark Cuban (who was still in the air) landed on a BMX bike and did a vicious wheelie, then some other dude handed him a Flying V and he started playing Cat Scratch Fever while he was totally riding with no hands and some girls in bikinis were all like "YOU ARE HOT" and he was all like "I KNOW" and then he drank a Mountain Dew really fast and then did a thumbs-up.
Wait, which is it: "He's a libertarian and objectivist" or "He's not a moron"? You can't have it both ways. Okay, I'm joking a little there, but...
Wait, you say he's a "salesman who got rich selling his company" and then you say he's "not a suit"? That's, um, well pretty common for a "suit". Indeed, most people would say that if your a salesman that got rich selling a company, and now own an NBA franchise, you are clearly a "suit".
Anyway, I think you are pretty crazy if you think most slashdotters want to be salesmen, whether of software or otherwise.
The guy owns HD Net (and the sister channel, HD Net Movies). When nobody was doing HD Content, he got HD rights to minor college games and NHL games, and built a little network there. He also bought the right to do transfers of old shows. He's an active participant on AVS Forum, explaining what is going on in the HD world. The craziest thing, you could only get HD Net from DirecTV and a local Texas station for its first few years. He bought a local television station just to run HD Net OTA to prove that OTA HD was practical.
When I met him very briefly (like 1 second) at CES some years back, watching him speak was amazing, not for what he said, but to hear the AWE from the representatives of companies like TI that were talking about how nobody did more for their industry than him.
The man has loads of money, and is spending it to push things that he believes will make the world a better place. He also has an ego the size of Texas. He had is own show on HD Net (where he could be a big dork but have his players on), and HD Net's coverage of CES was interviewing him.
The guy made a fortune selling broadcast.com at JUST the right time, and is now pushing technology the way he wants it, where a few gambles can make a difference. HD Net's sports coverage forced ESPN to adopt HD content before they wanted to, and DirecTV used HD Net to anchor HD programming when there was almost no programming. If it wasn't for him, the local affiliates would have gotten their dream of HD being a fig leaf to get public airwaves, where 1/6 of the channel space would carry normal 480i programming, and 5/6s be sold for data services, etc. Instead, HD Net helped force everyone's hand, and HD is here and real.
The guy's hobby appears to be bending public will to his, and he does a good job of it. While these "investments" may not have been profitable in a traditional sense (I doubt that he loses money, but he probably isn't getting a better ROI than having plowed his money into the S&P 500), it seems to have made him happy. He owns a basketball team, and he has a television network that buys the rights to do HD Transfers of whatever shows he wants to watch in HD. While the rest of us are at the mercy of the marketing departments guessing what we want, he can go make it happen. That's a pretty cool hobby.
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Now listen up, Fi-del, you and your Cubans will NEVER take down GooTube as long as one drop of blood flows through our red, white, and blue veins!
Stick THAT in your cigar and smoke it.
Do what you can, with what you have, where you are.
So let me get this straight: "most people" become "high level executives"? Um, I thought there were only a few of those guys.
You're tired of stereotypes, so you trot out the old "mom's basement" expression?
And what the fuck does "go-getter" mean?
Better get those TPS reports on my desk PDQ, or I'm going to proactively synergize my boot up your ass.
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