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Mars Rovers Celebrate Their 1000th Sol On Mars

Cherita Chen writes, "Yesterday NASA, Cornell University, and the USGS celebrated the Mars Exploration Rovers' 1000th Sol on the Red Planet. The first rover to land, Spirit, reached the 1000 Sol mark a few weeks ago while the planet was in Solar conjunction. 'Opportunity,' Spirit's twin, and the second lander to make the bounce to Mars, celebrated the milestone yesterday while sitting atop Victoria Crater on the other side of Mars. Both Rovers are still operational (though Spirit is limping) and are sending back valuable data. Not bad for what was slated to be a '90 Sol' mission."

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  1. Come On. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Admit it, you're getting misty.

  2. Maybe there is karmic justice after all, by GroeFaZ · · Score: 2, Informative

    considering the track record of failed missions.

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  3. Great achievement! by the_humeister · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Not bad for a mission that cost less than $500 million. Fast, cheap, and still lasts a long time. Too bad they don't have nuclear power plants, as they'd be getting more work done faster.

  4. Congrads NASA! by edwardpickman · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Biggest success since the Moon landing. It proves NASA can still excell they just need to dump some baggage like the shuttle and get back to what they do best, space exploration. I'd love to see them release a disk of all the Mars images. I'd pay good money for a full set of images especially if they included a set of the aerial shots. It could help open up the research to people that don't have direct access. A lot of things have been found just from Google earth. I'd really love to see a similar thing done with all the mars images. I know it's been started but there's a massive number of images availible. Better to have a few million eyes searching them than a few hundred.

    1. Re:Congrads NASA! by jkerman · · Score: 5, Informative

      the nasa HiRSE team is releasing full resolution images from the new orbiter as they are processed. its fantastic! their site seems to be down at the moment but it has the pictures, and a sofar interesting blog from some of the image processing team http://hiroc.lpl.arizona.edu/

    2. Re:Congrads NASA! by Erpo · · Score: 2, Informative

      A lot of things have been found just from Google earth. I'd really love to see a similar thing done with all the mars images.

      http://www.google.com/mars/

  5. Usual x10 engineering factor by RichMan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Can we say it is due to the usual x10 engineering safety margin?

    90 sol * 10 -> 900. Sort of close to 1000%.

    The engineers would have looked at MTBF (mean time between failures) of the components and probably designed for at least a 99% survivability to 90 sol. This might factor down to a 90% survivability to 900 sol depending on the failure curves for the parts. So the the probability of two surviving that long would be 0.9 * 0.9 = 0.81 or 81% chance.

    1. Re:Usual x10 engineering factor by imsabbel · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Spacecraft dont use x10 engineering safty margins.
      They dont even use 50% margines.

      If they did, they would never be able to lift of the ground.

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    2. Re:Usual x10 engineering factor by Vellmont · · Score: 4, Insightful


      Can we say it is due to the usual x10 engineering safety margin?

      I don't know. How many other rovers have been deployed in the Martian environment that we can get data back from to determine component lifetimes? I only know of one, and it was a much smaller rover.

      I find it pretty amazing that these machines have worked as long as they have. I can't imagine it's an easy job to design a rover to last as long as it has without really being able to test the thing in the environment it's going to be in. Sure you can simulate parts of the environment, but I doubt you can simulate them all at the same time with all the parts working together.

      Many people seem to pooh-pooh the survivability of these things because they just assume they were over-engineered. I'm sure they were over-engineered, but the amazing thing is that they were over-engineered in the right way, and pretty cheaply too (820 million to get them to Mars and the first 90 days of operation).

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  6. WTF is a Sol? by Palshife · · Score: 4, Informative

    From TFA, "A sol is a Martian day, which lasts 24 hours, 39 minutes, 35 seconds."

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  7. Wait a minute... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2, Funny

    So when did the Rovers pick up a Soul Cube?

  8. The predictions by Kjella · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Not bad for what was slated to be a "90 Sol" mission."

    The predictions was probably made as some sort of "average", but the odds it'd last exactly 90 days was slim. I'd say the odds of not landing properly at all, or immobilized shortly sfter landing was fairly significant. It's like a computer surviving burn-in or a person surviving infant mortality (though they are much lower in recent year), then they're likely to live significantly well past average. Plus some luck with whirlwinds clearing the solar panels, I guess.

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    1. Re:The predictions by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Informative

      The predictions was probably made as some sort of "average", but the odds it'd last exactly 90 days was slim. I'd say the odds of not landing properly at all, or immobilized shortly sfter landing was fairly significant. It's like a computer surviving burn-in or a person surviving infant mortality (though they are much lower in recent year), then they're likely to live significantly well past average. Plus some luck with whirlwinds clearing the solar panels, I guess.

      Indeed. I've read somewhere that statistically once a probe survives the initial part of the mission, its survivability tends to be long. Stuff tends to fail on first use if its gonna fail, but once after that it seems have pretty good chances.

  9. NICE! by protomala · · Score: 2, Informative
    I'm doing a paperwork about fault tolerancy on robotic systems.
    First the sensible robot, now mars rovers surviving, even without one wheel!


    What a happy day for me, eheheh.

  10. Re:Silly Jargon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Mission planners have to be concerned with issues regarding solar days on the planet being explored and solar days on Earth.

    Using the same term for both would only lead to confusion, hence the use of different terms is very important. This is especially true on Mars, where the "sol" is very close to one Earth day long and it wouldn't necessarily be clear from context which was meant.

    There are many examples of NASA/JPL using unnecessary jargon, but this isn't one of them.

  11. Re:Silly Jargon by DJ.Flecktarn · · Score: 3, Funny

    Because martians don't speak english.

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  12. Sol2k "bug" by QuantumFTL · · Score: 5, Informative

    I've mentioned this on /. before. I used to work on MER (one of the devs of Science Activity Planner/Maestro, as featured on /.), and while lasting longer than 90 sols was not considered completely ridiculous, lasting over 1000 sols (with both rovers!!!) definitely was. Our directory structure contained a 3-digit sol number, and a lot of calculations were carried out using only the first 999 sols, including some code I wrote (knowing this to be the case).

    Luckily the Operational Softare System team had plenty of time to work this issue, and it even fascilitated the introduction of newer, more capable software into the mission, as if we were already changing everything, why not ad some great stuff. I wish everyone on MER great success with the next 1000 sols!

    1. Re:Sol2k "bug" by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 2, Funny

      Our directory structure contained a 3-digit sol number, and a lot of calculations were carried out using only the first 999 sols, including some code I wrote (knowing this to be the case).

      John, I told you not to use COBOL in the rovers. You're so fired...
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  13. Re:Silly Jargon by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I just hope they never have probes on Mars and Venus at the same time because calling both types of day 'sol' will be confusing (though admittedly Venus is a little different). The length of the Martian day is a property of Mars, not of the Sun. It should have a name that reflects it's Martianness.

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  14. Shameless plug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative
  15. Mars-Ride! by thewiz · · Score: 2, Funny

    Rollin', rollin', rollin' ?Rollin', rollin', rollin' ?Rollin', rollin', rollin' ?Rollin', rollin', rollin' ?Mars-Ride! ??Rollin', rollin', rollin' ?Though the water's frozen ?Keep them rovers rollin' ?Mars-Ride! ?Dust and wind and weather ?Hell-bent for leather ?Wishin' my pal was by my side. ?All the things I'm missin', ?History is waitin', ?Waiting at the end of our ride ??CHORUS ?Move 'em on, head 'em up ?Head 'em up, move 'em on ?Move 'em on, head 'em up ?Mars-Ride ?RAT 'em out, RAT 'em in, ?RAT 'em in, RAT 'em out, ?Count 'em up, Sort 'em out ?Mars-Ride! ??Keep movin', movin', movin' ?Though they're agin' ?Keep them rovers movin' ?Mars-Ride! ?Don't try to understand 'em ?Just RAT, photo, and sand 'em ?Soon we'll be living high and wide. ?My CPUs calculatin' ?History will be waitin', ?Be waitin' at the end of our ride. ??Mars-Ride! ?Mars-Ride! ?

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  16. Ah but... by Salsaman · · Score: 3, Funny

    are those metric Sols or Imperial Sols ;-)

    Anyway, congratulations NASA !

  17. Re:Spirit has stayed busy at Winter Haven during.. by Headcase88 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Maybe this /. story could do with 4 or 5 less FAs. Everyone knows that us /.ers have the sterotype of having too busy a social life to read through this many articles :)

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  18. Re:Silly Jargon by DarkProphet · · Score: 2, Interesting

    How about talking in the context of Earth Days, Martian Days, Venusian Days, etc? I think its pretty understandable, moreso if the wikipedia pages ever turn up ;-)

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  19. Mars Rover Time on your Palm by HoneyBeeSpace · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you'd like to track the (global) location and the time of the Mars rovers, or the time for any location on Mars, you can do so on your Palm Pilot with MarsClock, written 100% (coded, compiled, debuged) on my Palm with OnBoardC.

  20. NASA Propaganda by edbarbar · · Score: 2, Insightful

    > Not bad for what was slated to be a '90 Sol'

    They intentionally underestimate the operational duration of the equipment to continually "WOW" the public. "Undercommit, overdeliver."

    Something Engineers need to do to when scheduling their projects.

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  21. Well...it would be better if... by scuba_steve_1 · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...Spirit's attitude improved:

    http://www.theonion.com/content/node/54360

    Seriously, the last message that it sent ('OVERPRICED SPACE-ROOMBA AWAITING MORE BULLSHIT ORDERS') was really uncalled for.

  22. Re:Silly Jargon by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 4, Funny

    You mean like:

    using namespace Mars {
            "On the fifth day of their missions the Shock and Awe probes on Mars are doing fine. Shock is current exploring the northern polar cap and Awe is..."
    }

    using namespace Venus {
            "As we approach half way through Harsh Questioning's first day on Venus it has just circled successfully around a pool of molten lead..."
    }

    Yeah, that might work.

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  23. Re: Bounce by Tablizer · · Score: 2

    'Opportunity,' Spirit's twin, and the second lander to make the bounce to Mars,

    Actually it was the 3rd. The 1997 Sojourner rover also used air bags (but bundled with lander station).