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NASA Making Plans To Save the Earth

aluminumangel writes, "Taking a page out of a Michael Bay movie, NASA is considering a manned mission to land on an asteroid, 'poke one with a stick,' and see how feasible it would be to deflect it from its course. Obviously, the application would be valuable in a doomsday situation and hopefully could keep us from going wherever the dinosaurs went." The article makes oblique reference to another goal such a mission could serve: giving us something to do in space, something to engage the paying public, between the time we return to the Moon and the time we get to Mars.

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  1. Cue stupid Aerosmith song by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    If this means finally launching Ben Affleck into space, I'm all for it.

  2. They need to hurry by DAldredge · · Score: 4, Funny

    They really need to hurry, Bruce Willis isn't getting any younger!

  3. This could be useful... by Dr.+Eggman · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If we can good at altering asteroid's paths, we could use near earth asteroids as ramming tools. We should ram a few into the same spot on Mars and get a nice deep crater. We get practice diverting asteroids and learn more about deeper martain soil.

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  4. Re:Trust Man by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There are some who take responsibility for the world that they live in and others who just hope that everything will work out. Good on those in column a, for those in column b just do everyone a favour and don't get in the way. BTW I think it is worth mentioning that we are likely to kill each other long before an asteroid wipes us out but hey, better safe than sorry right?

  5. Re:Don't comets obey the laws of physics??? by rolfwind · · Score: 4, Funny

    In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.

    In practice, however......

  6. Get you insightful replies... by jginspace · · Score: 3, Informative

    ...from the original

  7. Armageddon wouldn't even be close. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As an exercise for my high-school physics students studying energy and momentum conservation, I had them run the numbers on the scenario from the movie "Armageddon" for an asteroid "the size of Texas", taking this to mean in separate cases the area of Texas with a range of densities, etc.

    Giving the astronauts every benefit of the doubt (able to intercept it twice as far out as they did in the movie, bomb able to be placed at the center of mass, the bomb having ten times the yield of largest nuke ever exploded by man, perfectly elastic explosion, etc. etc. etc.) they not only couldn't make the asteroid miss the Earth, they would only have changed impact points by about a meter!

    I love sci-fi movies and like to give my students problems from popular films that illustrate the absurdity of Hollywood stories.

    1. Re:Armageddon wouldn't even be close. by guardiangod · · Score: 3, Informative

      Perhaps I should explain this without resorting to the use of sarcasm - they are popular misconceptions, after all.

      An asteroid, moving through space, has velocity (relatively to the earth) 5 - 20 km/s. Now, most of the earth's atmosphere is about 5 km thick (the rest are light elements scattered in the exosphere). That means it takes
      less than a second
      for any asteroid to get though the earth's atmosphere! This is the reason why meteoroids are below freezing (instead of glowing red hot) after they landed on earth - they don't have time to heat up through friction.

      Second of all, impact cratering is calculated by the kinetic energy of the asteroid. Size means jack. Which means that as long as the most of the things landed on earth, we get craters.

      What all these means is unless you can blow up the asteroid in such a way that they are smaller than your garden's peddles, they will still hit earth. Can fusion bomb do that?

  8. Weaponized! by plopez · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you can divert it, you can steer it. If you can steer it you can target an area on the planet.

    Take out a major city, no radiation. Just the threat would be a useful tool of terror and control.

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    1. Re:Weaponized! by Xiroth · · Score: 4, Insightful
      On the other hand, if you could steer it into Earth's orbit you might be able to mine a ridiculous amount of valuable material from it. As someone interested in orbital megastructures, this is one of the big steps. Of course, there's a few more - see if these don't sound like interesting challenges:
      1. Finding some way to extract the ore.
      2. Getting a refinary set up in space.
      3. Creating construction robots that can use the processed materials to build the structure.

      Should be interesting if/when someone tries this.
    2. Re:Weaponized! by Skidge · · Score: 3, Funny
      Take out a major city, no radiation. Just the threat would be a useful tool of terror and control.


      Shhh. Don't say things like that, or they won't let us take our asteroids on airplanes anymore.
  9. Itsatrap! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If ever a story deserved an "itsatrap" tag, this story is one of them. Who can say what the result would be? It could have unintended consequences.

    I hope they pick a small asteroid to test on.

  10. Should have been done years ago by MichaelSmith · · Score: 4, Interesting

    FromTFA:

    The proposals are at an early stage, and a spacecraft needed just to send an astronaut that far into space exists only on the drawing board

    Actually the apollo stack (SM, CM, LM ascent and descent stages) had easily enough velocity budget to fly to and return from some near Earth asteroids. It didn't have the consumables to do it but that could have been launched separately. You get more redundancy that way.

    Of course we don't have the apollo CM, which is the only spacecraft in existance which could make a high speed return from an asteroid and reenter the atmosphere, but we will have the CRV which should have similar capabilities. The saturn 5 launch system doesn't exist either and thats the part of this system which is really vapourware.

    Anyway good luck to them. Mars has been held off for so long because it is so much more risky and difficult than the moon. Asteroids offer progressively harder challenges, minus the risk of sudden death landing a heavy vehicle on mars.

  11. Re:Why send people? by Hooya · · Score: 4, Funny

    except, without people, you wouldn't get to have tearjerker bravery/sacrifice with "don't want to miss a thing" playing in the background.

  12. NASA planning to save the Earth by noigmn · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Now all we need is an asteroid for them to save us from.

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  13. Dinosaurs by GodInHell · · Score: 3, Funny

    Technically, the dinosaurs didn't go anywhere. They just shrunk and grew feathers.. we know grow them in factory farms and eat them by the pound at Chik-Fil-A.

    (That and worship our them as our yellow masters through PBS.)

    -GiH

  14. Think of the Astrologists!!!! by themindfantastic · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hey you will go screwing up all those astrologists and their predictions if you start moving crap around! Think of the ASTROLOGISTS!!!!!

  15. Not really by phorm · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Deflecting something from a particular course is likley a lot easier than setting it on to a specific new course. All you need is a big enough push (or bigger) to ensure it missing hitting (for example) Earth. Now to have it hit a particular target, you would need much more exact placing and timing of an explosion/rocket/etc.

  16. Re:Don't comets obey the laws of physics??? by guardiangod · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Scientific method -

    1. Define the question
    2. Gather information and resources
    3. Form hypothesis
    4. Perform experiment and collect data
    5. Analyze data
    6. Interpret data and draw conclusions that serve as a starting point for new hypotheses
    7. Publish results

    Without collecting data, all you get is something akin to String Theory - could be true, could be false, no one knows.

  17. Re:Am I the only one that doesn't care by ComputerSherpa · · Score: 4, Funny

    Dude. First, take a deep breath. Then, go here and hit Refresh over and over until the bad feeling goes away. After that, take a walk in the woods, or go to church, or help out at a day-care or something. Life has meaning if you go look for it. :-)

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