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Patches For Pine Going Away
md8mart writes to let us know about the imminent shutdown of the site that distributes Pine patches. From the RSS feed of Patches for Pine we read the following bad news for all Pine users: "The Department of Mathematics of the University of Washington will close the account that hosts my Patches for Pine site. I would like to thank the Department of Mathematics for having hosted this site for so many years. I do not have current plans to move this site, but this site will disappear on December 15, 2006. Thank you to everyone who supported me by positive feedback and encouragement to do this work through the years. I will update this information as it becomes available."
I haven't used Pine for 12 years or so, but this feels like the folks writing to say that old Rover is gone...
I'm not up on the pine scene but why aren't the patches folded into the upstream? Seems if you're checking out, you'd submit them all before you turn off the lights, but perhaps there is some legal reason.
Maybe there will be a massive switch to Alpine?
:)
From TFWP : "In late 2005, Computing & Communications at the University of Washington began a project to create a new family of email tools built upon the Pine® Message System. This family of tools is called Alpine. Alpine consists of a UNIX command-line program, a PC version, and a Web version.
Alpine will be licensed under the Apache License, Version 2.0."
PINE was my first UNIX mail reader on the now defunct MRC HGMP server circa 1995 (how I miss that account) so I grew to love it. That was around the time I still thought PICO was a neat editor. Then I found vi, them vim, then mutt, and I've not looked back
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Since 93, I've used a dozen different email clients. In most cases, they were not of my chosing. When I have a choice, I use pine. I have yet to find a small, capable client with such a straightforward, intuitively designed, user friendly interface. I have high hopes of Alpine but mutt, elm and emacs' rmail are inferior to pine.
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If he wants to say that, he should be allowed to.
Is it so difficult to allow other people to say what they think, rather than pushing your values onto them?
No, putting SMTP in MUTT isn't the way to do it -- it would break the UNIX design philosophy of "do one thing and do it well". Every UNIX-like system already has sendmail, or something like it -- a command that you can filter text through and have it sent via SMTP. No other program requires SMTP functionality, because there's already a perfectly good SMTP engine out there. If you don't like the original sendmail than you can replace it with qmail, or postfix, or exim, or whatever. They're all designed on purpose to fit the same interface. Even the main binary is called "sendmail". If a serious security problem is ever discovered with a particular SMTP engine which will take several days to fix, it can be "swapped out" and replaced with a whole 'nother sendmail-alike until a patch becomes available (or maybe not, if the sysadmin comes to prefer the replacement).
Contrast that with Windows, where there is much unnecessary duplication of functionality because every vendor believes that their secret, proprietary way of doing something is better than anyone else's way of doing the same thing.
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