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Archiving Digital Data an Unsolved Problem

mattnyc99 writes, "It's a huge challenge: how to store digital files so future generations can access them, from engineering plans to family photos. The documents of our time are being recorded as bits and bytes with no guarantee of readability down the line. And as technologies change, we may find our files frozen in forgotten formats. Popular Mechanics asks: Will an entire era of human history be lost?" From the article: "[US national archivist] Thibodeau hopes to develop a system that preserves any type of document — created on any application and any computing platform, and delivered on any digital media — for as long as the United States remains a republic. Complicating matters further, the archive needs to be searchable. When Thibodeau told the head of a government research lab about his mission, the man replied, 'Your problem is so big, it's probably stupid to try and solve it.'"

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  1. Microsoft to help! by UbuntuDupe · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can't wait to hear Microsoft's explanation why the project should use one of their proprietary formats.

    1. Re:Microsoft to help! by 19thNervousBreakdown · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's not a word.

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    2. Re:Microsoft to help! by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 5, Funny

      Our formats are industry standards. They are backed by Microsoft, a robust company which has withstood vigorous competition, lawsuits, the .com burst, and the Bolshevik revolution brought about by Stallman et al. Where other companies have folded, Microsoft has flourished. With a known track record of backward-compatibility, your documents are safe with us. Trust us. We _invented_ trusted computing.

      And remember: nobody ever got fired for buying Microsoft.

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  2. Not too long... by Electrode · · Score: 5, Funny
    "for as long as the United States remains a republic."

    So, they're shooting for about 10 years then?

    1. Re:Not too long... by MECC · · Score: 2, Funny
      "for as long as the United States remains a republic."

      So, they're shooting for about 10 years then?

      10 years or the next presidential election - whichever comes first

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    2. Re:Not too long... by eln · · Score: 5, Funny

      In 20 thousand years they'll have Princess Diana was running around with a lightsaber killing communists or something.

      Are you trying to say she didn't do that?

      Crap, I am so getting an F on my history paper.

    3. Re:Not too long... by Pollardito · · Score: 4, Funny

      quick, let's update wikipedia to say she did, then you'll have a source for your paper

  3. hieroglyphics by IWantMoreSpamPlease · · Score: 4, Funny

    Worked for the Egyptians didn't it?

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    1. Re:hieroglyphics by visgoth · · Score: 2, Funny

      Indeed. I highly doubt that 10,000 years ago Thagnar lamented the fact that nobody would remember his daily struggles.

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  4. Government Area of Expertise by ThatsNotFunny · · Score: 5, Funny
    When Thibodeau told the head of a government research lab about his mission, the man replied, 'Your problem is so big, it's probably stupid to try and solve it.'"


    I'd trust that guy. If there's one thing our governrment knows, it's stupidity.
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  5. HD-DVD - dark data by openright · · Score: 2, Funny

    Interestingly, This Slashdot article is shown to me with advertisement for HD-DVD, which has a data format "forgotten" by design.

  6. Speaking of trash... by csoto · · Score: 2, Funny

    I wonder what archaeologists will think of the Zune :)

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  7. Re:Extra irony points. by kfg · · Score: 4, Funny

    Go to the library while you still can and memorize it. Buy camping gear.

    KFG

  8. Obligatory quote ;) by kosmosik · · Score: 2, Funny

    Backups are for wimps. Real men upload their data to an FTP site and have everyone else mirror it. -- Linus Torvalds

  9. Re:I've heard this problem over and over by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Working at a University, this is not a subject I'm not unfamiliar with.

    Well, I have to say, I'm at a University too, and this is far from being not a subject I'm not unfamiliar with.

  10. I'm doing my part... by dghcasp · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm doing my part by working on a project where I'm copying every single MySpace page onto stone tablets.

    When future archeologists dig them up and see "LOL Bobby Ray Sucks!" and "D00d 1 pwnz3r3d U!!1!", they'll understand that our civilization didn't just decline; our only choice was to destroy ourselves because we were so lame.

  11. Re:I've heard this problem over and over by pclminion · · Score: 3, Funny

    Working at a University, this is not a subject I'm not unfamiliar with. We've had lots of discussions about this. Everyone always talks about how many zillions of "pieces of information" are out there. The number of web pages in existence is always brandied about.

    Where can I attend these meetings, where people speak in triple negatives and much brandy is available?

  12. Re:How is this different by autophile · · Score: 2, Funny
    Paper actually holds up rather well as an archival medium. Plus, you don't need specialized technology to read it.

    I do. (Adjusts glasses)

    --Rob

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  13. Re:How is this different by Tim+Browse · · Score: 3, Funny

    If you have a big pile of digital data, what is it? An image? Compressed text? Audio? Just a sequence of numbers?

    That's what MIME types are for. Duh.

  14. Re:Who cares? by ericlondaits · · Score: 2, Funny

    Archeologist from the 23rd century going through or email archives: "Wow! These guys must have had humongous penises with all the enlarging going on!"

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  15. That's easy... by FridayBob · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... just print all the ones and zeros out on paper, so that later on others
    can just read it all back in again with OCR! Oh, I know we could use
    punch cards instead, but we don't want our kids to laugh at us, do we?
    Besides, if we print the ones and zeros real small, we can achieve higher
    data densities.

  16. Re:Who cares? by focitrixilous+P · · Score: 4, Funny

    I doubt you'd sell many Nano-Pump (tm) enlargement kits. It's all in the name, even in the future.

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  17. Re:How is this different by SuperMog2002 · · Score: 2, Funny

    That assumes they know which are the zeros and which are the ones. And that in turn assumes they know there are zeros and ones in the first place.

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  18. Re:How is this different by thogard · · Score: 2, Funny

    Knowing that there are 8 bits in a byte isn't going to do them any favors if they are looking at some of my programs that I have on punch cards.

  19. Re:Forgotten by JesterXXV · · Score: 3, Funny
    There is only one contribution you can make which will have any lasting effect at all
    Create an article about myself on Wikipedia?
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