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Recycled Tires Could Filter Water

MattSparkes writes "According to New Scientist, water could be cleansed and filtered more easily and cheaply by using old tires. From the article: 'Rubber tires, the kind that lie at the bottom of rivers and at the back of junkyards the world over, could be ideal water filters says an environmental engineer at Penn State University in the US.'"

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  1. More Information by eldavojohn · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here's a picture of the process that Yuefeng Xie set up at PSU.

    Note that on his homepage under news he has "A patent "Method of Using Waste Tires As A Filter Media" was issued to me on November 29, 2005. With 40% of royalties to the inventor (other 60% goes to Penn State), I am going to be a rich professor very soon."

    Which reveals he applied for this patent on Aug. 26, 1999.

    A lot of the material I can find online makes it look as though he's been working on this for six years, he was just waiting for the patent to to be granted. It seems now they just have to verify tha the water that is processed doesn't leach out any harmful toxins or heavy metals (as the article states). A side note is that he only has one other patent aside from this one.

    Despite his plans to become rich over this, I hope he is very successful as a lot of countries (both 3rd and 1st world) could stand to benefit from this greatly.

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    1. Re:More Information by Thansal · · Score: 2, Insightful
      also from that page
      My book, Disinfection Byproducts in Drinking Water: Formation, analysis, and control was published by Lewis Publishers. Based on a recent calculation, the payment I received for writing the book is very close to what my son got from Taco Bell based on a hourly rate. And you can buy this book from Wal-Mart online! By the way, don't expect a cheap book here. With 5% off, it is still $142.45 for 176 pages.


      Well, I hope his new endevor goes better then his last one did (monitarily that is)!

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  2. Ew by lawpoop · · Score: 2, Funny

    do you really want to drink water that tastes like old tire?

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    1. Re:Ew by AchilleTalon · · Score: 3, Funny
      Does it imply it tastes better with new tires?

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  3. Fort Lauderdale says no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting
  4. How old are they talking, here? by brennanw · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I was under the impression that for the last 10-15 years at least they stopped making tires out of rubber. A 10 year old tire is pretty old for a tire.

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    1. Re:How old are they talking, here? by AchilleTalon · · Score: 2, Funny
      Like wine: The older, the better!

      Which millesimes are the best?

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    2. Re:How old are they talking, here? by Alien+Being · · Score: 4, Informative

      "they stopped making tires out of rubber"

      Tires (almost all) are made of synthetic rubber and have been for many decades.

    3. Re:How old are they talking, here? by brennanw · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well OK, maybe that's what did it. I heard "synthetic rubber" somewhere and immediately leapt to the conclusion that it was therefore not real rubber. Sort of like vegan burgers. Or Tofurkery.

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    4. Re:How old are they talking, here? by jagspecx · · Score: 2, Funny

      Your impression is incorrect. But out of curioustiy, what did you think they were making them out of this past decade?

      Old water filters?

  5. Differences between tire brand/models? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Forget about Zagat's Michelin food guide, this time Zagat, Chairman Kaga, and Iron Chefs will taste test water filtered by Bridgestone/Firestone, BFGoodrich, Goodyear, generic retreads, and of course, Michelins.

  6. like tires as reef? by Speare · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There was a case where someone had the bright idea of dumping tires over a huge area of open sea, to offer marine habitat. Years and years later, the barnacles and coral organisms haven't adopted this habitat, because the tide keeps pushing the tires around, unlike heavier debris. It's an eco-disaster, worse than nothing, essentially.

    They're finally getting around to hauling them up, but volunteer effort can only go after a few tires at a time, with tens of thousands or millions of tires to go. Maybe if there was a clear use for all the tires, they could get some funds to lift the old "reef" up and use it for a different, and this time beneficial, marine-related purpose.

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    1. Re:like tires as reef? by inviolet · · Score: 2, Interesting
      There was a case where someone had the bright idea of dumping tires over a huge area of open sea, to offer marine habitat. Years and years later, the barnacles and coral organisms haven't adopted this habitat, because the tide keeps pushing the tires around, unlike heavier debris. It's an eco-disaster, worse than nothing, essentially.

      It is still a good idea. That particular project failed because the metal clips -- the things that hold the tires together as a reef -- rusted away.

      Yes, you read that right: they used metal clips for a long-term saltwater application. Asshats. But I suppose there weren't a lot of other suitable materials available back in the 1960s when the project was conceived.

      Nowadays, kevlar would be the perfect choice, as it is impervious to everything but acid and UV light.

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  7. Also, by justkarl · · Score: 2, Funny

    From a billboard in Fight Club(movie):

    "You can use recycled motor oil to fertilize your lawn!"

  8. Put them to good use! by Reecie · · Score: 2, Funny

    Firestone tires may have a functional use after all!

  9. What about rubber allergies? by jimlintott · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My first concern is that I am quite allergic to cyclohexylthiophthalimide (CTP) a chemical used in vulcanizing rubber. Yes, I am allergic to car tires. Makes me very, very ill. While I don't get sick in normal traffic I get sick at the drag races from the burnouts and I can't spend more than 30 minutes in a tire shop.

    Whether water filtered through tires would bother me or not I don't know but it should be checked into first.

    1. Re:What about rubber allergies? by Politburo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'd advise you to email the professor with this concern.

    2. Re:What about rubber allergies? by diersing · · Score: 5, Funny

      There we go again, caving to the cyclohexylthiopthalimide-phobic lobby. Honestly people, this here tire-filtration system is the best thing we got going, are we really going to abandon it for something that affects 10%^H^H^H 1% ^H, this guy?

    3. Re:What about rubber allergies? by cmckosaurous · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah, I can see it now:

      Deer Park marketing guy #1: "Nobody is actually allergic to this kind of stuff, right?"

      Deer Park marketing guy #2: "Well, there was this one guy on Slashdot who claimed he was, but I bet it was just a lie."

      Deer Park marketing guy #1: "We should put a warning label on our bottles just to make sure he doesn't sue us. How about - 'Warning, this delicious and refreshing drink you are about to enjoy may contain water filtered using Recycled Tires, and may contain traces of cyclohexylthiophthalimide. If you are that one guy who is allergic to CTP, do not enjoy this beverage.'

      Deer Park marketing guy #2 "Brilliant! High five!"

  10. Other Uses by quanminoan · · Score: 5, Informative
    Waste tires can be recycled and used in lots of ways, though this one is particularly interesting. Tires actually have a fuel value and energy density greater than coal, and the slag left over can be used in construction materials and concrete. The crumb rubber the article mentions is actually somewhat difficult to take out of the tire, you generally cryogenically freeze the tire then hammer at it - this separates the crumb rubber from the fibers within the tire. The recycled rubber isn't the kind of rubber you'd use in everyday life without treatment, so it's used in things like rubber mats and in highway construction.

    Crumb rubber has found uses in sewage plants as a filler material to bulk up the sewage, replacing the tons of wood chips that would normally have to be discarded. In places with erosion problems burying tires make excellent barriers combined with terracing techniques. There have also been programs to make artificial reefs with tires, making great fish habitats (if done properly that is). I read an article on using the 2" chips as mulch for blueberry plants. Some companies are playing with pyrolysis as well - getting a good deal of oil from the tires by heating them under an oxygen free and high pressure environment.

    There's really no limit to what you can do with waste tires. If this method works well I'm sure some countries could benefit, though I don't know how well the filters work. I can't imagine them removing arsenic or bacteria, but possibly they could condition the water so that a better filter could last longer? The article was a little vague on details - anyone provide some insight to this end?

    1. Re:Other Uses by JonathanR · · Score: 2, Informative

      Car tyres are used in cement clinker manufacuture. At a plant I did some work at, they have a conveyor that drops whole tyres into the top end of the rotary clinker kiln. The steel belts and beads in the tyres contribute to the iron requirements of the clinker, and of course the rubber is burned for fuel value.

  11. Duh! by Naughty+Bob · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's *why* we chuck them in the river....

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  12. Thats why we put them in the ocean! by neildiamond · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Soon our oceans will be much cleaner thanks to extra tires!

    1. Re:Thats why we put them in the ocean! by diersing · · Score: 2

      Clean? I thought we did that so we wouldn't skin our knees on the coral, it cleans the water too? BONUS!

  13. Don't hold your breath by geobeck · · Score: 3, Interesting

    From the last part of the article (for those who don't RTFA):

    The suggestion is interesting and plausible, says Sean Moran, an environmental engineer who runs Expertise Limited in the UK. "But I can see there being a lot of difficulties taking it from lab stage to full scale," he adds.

    He points out that there are already filtering columns which maintain their size gradient even after backwashing by exploiting the density differences. These use large, low density particles of anthracite, on top of sand, with small, high density particles of garnet at the bottom.

    Another problem in cleaning filtering systems is that sewage sludge sticks to the filter particles. Moran thinks the sludge is more likely to stick to rubber than to smooth hard grains of sand and coal.

    He is also concerned that the rubber from old tyres might leach out toxic chemicals including heavy metals. Xie's team is now taking feedback from experts, and running tests to make sure the rubber does not leach out heavy metals.

    I, for one, do not welcome our contaminant-leaching, sewage adsorbing overlords.

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  14. So THAT's how they do it... by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 4, Funny

    That just totally explains the taste of tap water in Adelaide.

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  15. Rubberized asphalt is wonderful by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 5, Informative

    We use it in Arizona, though not at much as we should, and it's awesome. Even if there weren't the benefits of getting rid of old tires it's still great stuff. It offers a much quieter ride but the real winner is that it deals with thermal expansion real well. The desert has massive temperature deltas, it can be 70 degrees in a day or more, every day. Because of that and the extreme heat, roads wear out fast. However the rubberized asphalt stands up to it quite well.