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U.S. Classrooms Torn Between Science and Religion

Dystopian Rebel writes "A New Jersey public-school history teacher was recorded telling his students that they 'belong in Hell' if they do not accept Jesus. The teacher, who is also a Baptist Pastor, lied later when he was asked by the school principle what he said to the students. Unfortunately for this dodge, a student recorded the teacher's 'lesson'." From the article: "The student and his parents have requested that the teacher's anti-scientific remarks be corrected in open class, and that the school develop quality control procedures to ensure that future classes are not proselytized and misinformed. They have also referred the matter for disciplinary action. No apology has been forthcoming from the teacher or from the school."

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  1. Fortunately by MutantHamster · · Score: 4, Funny

    They live in New Jersey so when they wind up in Hell it won't be much different.

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    1. Re:Fortunately by BSAtHome · · Score: 5, Funny

      We all go to hell. See Thermodynamics of Hell for a good story. The good point made there is that regardless of which relegion you have, you will end up in hell because each religion claims that their's is the only correct one and the non-believers will go to hell.
      Happy to be one who doesn't need a religion to accept to go to hell. Finally a warm place to relax.

  2. Re:Which Hell? by Cheapy · · Score: 2, Funny

    What about Hell, Norway?

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  3. Re:This isn't a clash between science and religion by turgid · · Score: 4, Funny

    Mod parent up.

    Don't. It's propaganda pandering to the oppressors.

  4. Re:This isn't a clash between science and religion by turgid · · Score: 2, Funny

    They call it teevee.

  5. Re:Looney Tunes by kraut · · Score: 5, Funny

    > Any loon who tries to tell a bunch of kids that (a) Noah's ark was real and (b) There were dinosaurs on it should have their license to teach revoked.

    Doh.. use some common sense. Of course the dinosaurs didn't get on the ark: That's how they becamse extinct! ;)

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  6. Re:Which Hell? by Nicholas+Evans · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's a cold day in Hell, lemme tell ya...

  7. Re:This isn't a clash between science and religion by Decaff · · Score: 2, Funny

    The Church of England is so far away from the fundies it's not funny. Although they didn't want poofters (that's faggots in the US) to be priests so they're still reactionary in some ways.

    Being a poofter/faggot myself, I do find this a little reactionary, but they are reactionary in a mild and English kind of way.

  8. Re:This isn't a clash between science and religion by Coryoth · · Score: 5, Funny
    So essentially, he still considers moderates to be illegitimate. He is just as much a fundamentalist as his enemies - in his view, you MUST be an atheist or you're "irrational". Just like how the Christian fundies think everyone MUST be a Christian.

    Of course atheists haven't resorted to some tactics used by people to proselytize their religion...

    [Knock][Knock]
    Homeowner: Yes, hello?
    Atheist: Hello. Have you considered not believing in God?
    Homeowner: Um, I hadn't really -
    Atheist: Perhaps you would care to read some of these pamphlets!
    Homeowner: That's okay I -
    Atheist: They clearly explain the benefits of not believing in God. Not believing in God changed my life, and it can change yours too.
    Homeowner: Uhuh, whatever -
    Atheist: Don't you see what not believing in God can do for you? If you don't not believe in -
    [SLAM!]
  9. Re:Looney Tunes by quanticle · · Score: 4, Funny

    Marx is the opiate of the stupid.

    Looks like he found your button.

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  10. Re:Which Hell? by NerveGas · · Score: 3, Funny

    Don't forget that Hell, Michigan is different from Hell, Michoacan. =)

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  11. Teacher might be happier in Turkey. by guidryp · · Score: 2, Funny

    After all they were the only country scoring below the USA for belief in Evolution (recent survey). They were 34 on the list the USA was 33. Then again maybe he is disgruntled that Turkey is winning the race to root out rational thinkers.

    When is "Intelligent Design" going to incorporate the belief that Darwins Evolutionary theory is the root of Terrorism? Another area where Turkey is ahead.

    http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/articlenews.aspx?t ype=scienceNews&storyid=2006-11-22T141111Z_01_L092 65541_RTRIDST_0_SCIENCE-RELIGION-TURKEY-EVOLUTION- DC.XML

  12. Re:This isn't a clash between science and religion by Abcd1234 · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Earth is filled with custard - lots of it, hot and molten.

    What do you mean, you don't think so? Surely a good skeptic should neither believe or not believe in that?


    Well, that's a silly example. There's evidence the Earth isn't filled with custard. It has a magnetic field.

    *However*, if the earth were filled with *magnetic* custard...

  13. Re:Guilty of copyright infringement for recording? by Sloppy · · Score: 4, Funny
    BTW. How can you go to hell if you don't believe in the Christian universe (and therefore Jesus).

    How can you be subject to the law of gravity, if you never studied law? (It may have worked for the roadrunner, but don't try it at home, kids.)

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  14. Re:This isn't a clash between science and religion by nospam007 · · Score: 4, Funny

    >..Of course atheists haven't resorted to some tactics used by people to proselytize their religion...
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  15. Obligatory Futurama quote by Peden · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Who would have ever thought there was such a place as Robot Hell? And that it would be in New Jersey?"

  16. Re:This isn't a clash between science and religion by langarto · · Score: 5, Funny

    Of course, you are right. There is also imagined evidence, which is very important!

  17. Re:This isn't a clash between science and religion by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 5, Funny
    Similarly, if I met someone who still believed that disease was caused by demonic possession, I'd mock them, too.

    Mock me not! I have seen evidence of this! Someone showed me this little tube I could look through and there they were, swimming around waving their cilia in scandalous and unholy abandon!

    Still, they did look a little Noodly, but they weren't the rightsort of Noodly. And there weren't any pirates, even though I was looking through a tube.

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  18. Re:This isn't a clash between science and religion by dangitman · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's nutritionally enhanced custard, with added iron.

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  19. Burn him at the stake. by jcr · · Score: 2, Funny

    Baptist preacher? Why, that uppity Heretic!

    -jcr

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  20. Re:Which Hell? by Esteanil · · Score: 4, Funny

    Or they can go to Hell, Norway and watch it freeze over every year :-)

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  21. You have a freedom to not send kids to school too! by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 3, Funny

    Homeschooling.

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  22. Re: Buddhism & Hell by ghostdancer · · Score: 3, Funny

    Bodhisattva does not rule. Bodhisattva serves.

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  23. Re:This isn't a clash between science and religion by Jesus_666 · · Score: 2, Funny

    We really need this for agnostics too. Something like... Not Jehovah's Witnesses Because We Don't Actually Have Proof For Or Against It.

    *knock knock*
    Homeowner: "Hello?"
    NJWBWDAHPFOAI: "Have you ever considered not knowing whether to believe in God or not?"
    Homeowner: "Come again?"
    NJWBWDAHPFOAI: "God. Have you ever considered that it's impossible to tell whether he exists or not because we do not have irrefutable proof for either?"
    Homeowner: "...no?"
    NJWBWDAHPFOAI: "Do you want a pamphlet?"
    Homeowner: "That's a big cardboard box with philosophy books in it."
    NJWBWDAHPFOAI: "Well, without this stuff you can't really make an informed decis--"
    *slam*

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  24. Revelations 21:8 by orgelspieler · · Score: 2, Funny
    It says the pastor lied when asked about the incident. I think the students should follow him around singing that ever-so-fun song (to the tune of Frère Jacques):
    Revelations, Revelations
    twenty-one eight, twenty-one eight:
    "Liars go to hell, liars go to hell."
    BURN! BURN! BURN!
    BURN! BURN! BURN!
    Does anybody else remember that song from Sunday school? It was always one of my favorites. :-)