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U.S. Classrooms Torn Between Science and Religion

Dystopian Rebel writes "A New Jersey public-school history teacher was recorded telling his students that they 'belong in Hell' if they do not accept Jesus. The teacher, who is also a Baptist Pastor, lied later when he was asked by the school principle what he said to the students. Unfortunately for this dodge, a student recorded the teacher's 'lesson'." From the article: "The student and his parents have requested that the teacher's anti-scientific remarks be corrected in open class, and that the school develop quality control procedures to ensure that future classes are not proselytized and misinformed. They have also referred the matter for disciplinary action. No apology has been forthcoming from the teacher or from the school."

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  1. Flamebait by Locarius · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I wish I could mod stories as -1 Flamebait and then filter them out. The problem is, this thread will see 800 replies which generates a TON of revenue.

  2. What if... by grub · · Score: 0, Flamebait


    What if I stood up in class and said "I accept Jesus as a fucking cunt!"
    Does that kind of acceptance get me eternal happiness?

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    1. Re:What if... by Surt · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Parse it with the correct inflection:

      "I (accept Jesus) (as a fucking cunt!)"

      And just in case that wasn't helpful enough

      "as a fucking cunt!, I accept Jesus "

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  3. Re:This isn't a clash between science and religion by seebs · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Everything I've read by Dawkins suggests that he has no concept what non-fundamentalist Christians are; he's talking only about apathetic fundamentalists.

    He and the fundamentalists need each other, so he treats fundamentalists as the essential definition of Christianity (rather than as a modernist group under two hundred years old, and a definite minority among Christians in general), and they treat people like him as the essential definition of atheism. Both get the bogeyman they need to have people buy their "cure".

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  4. Re:This religion is just out of favor by edbarbar · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Really? You mean if I throw away my plastic garbage instead of recycle it the world will become unlivable? Please. . .

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  5. Re:This isn't a clash between science and religion by Mad+Marlin · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Richard Dawkins is a troll and needs to be down-modded.

  6. Re:This isn't a clash between science and religion by PlasticArmyMan · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Firstly, I'm not American. Also, I don't know the law over there but I'm willing to bet that the constitution and thusly, free speech *would* in fact come first. What the guy said was foolish in the extreme, but did he actually harm anyone? No? Good. If someones reality was shattered or their minds changed by something he said then they're weak willied idiots, children or not.

  7. Re:This isn't a clash between science and religion by PlasticArmyMan · · Score: 1, Flamebait
    Surely free speech is free speech? If it's moderated in any way then surely it's no longer free speech? If the US society has free speech as one of it's most basic elements then surely, although in extreme bad taste, this person be allowed to say it.

    Granted, he'll probably be fired but I hope to goodness that no criminal charges become of this because by the letter of the law surely he's done nothing wrong.

  8. Re:This religion is just out of favor by Scudsucker · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    So in other words, no, the book doesn't say recycle and the Earth will be destroyed. Thanks for being a sport and proving the parent's hypothesis that you are indeed full of crap.

  9. Re:This religion is just out of favor by edbarbar · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    See, you aren't willing to prove a thing. You put the burden on me and then take pot shots when I provide ample support for my positions.

    Meanwhile, you are weasling away from the point. Now, instead of can they be renewed, you say we can't renew them today. And then more assertions, the pollution would be too great. How the heck do you know? And by whose definition?

    The most ironic part of it all, is you are arguing out of both sides of your mouth. On the one hand you aren't saying there are apocolyptic consequences to not recycling, but on the other hand you argue we must recycle else the pollution would be too great! That's rich. The fact you don't realize this is religious drivel makes it even more funny. I would guess you are late twenties of age, and haven't gotten to the point at which you can think for yourself.

    Now, please tell me the element we are running out of that makes it necessary to mine asteroids, if we dont' recycle?

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  10. Re:more like science vs stupidity by Scudsucker · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    How about you stop seeing things you want to see, and instead read what I actually wrote?

    You mean this? the myth that American Indians were all peaceful tree-hugging poets and philosophers until the horrible white man slaughtered them.

    I swear, the average slashdoter must have the comprehensive abilities of a 3-year-old.

    As exemplified by your dumb ass. You had no problems "seeing what you wanted to see" and spouting your own straw men, Mr. Pot. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

  11. Re:This religion is just out of favor by Scudsucker · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Oh, no it precisely says just that.

    Where. Put up or shut up.

    you really ought to be more intellectually honest.

    Is that so Mr. Pot? I hope your children are far less stupid than you are, and that asshattery isn't inherited.

  12. Re:This religion is just out of favor by Scudsucker · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    The obtuse indignation of your comments reveal you for what you really are: a self centered religious bigot.

    Blah blah blah. Your comments reveal you to be a blabbering idiot who engages in rhetorical masturbation when he can't back up any one of his arguments.

    Regarding your other post, I already provided the information. Go buy the book and read it yourself.

    No, you haven't. Put up or shut up.