Slashdot Mirror


Top Gadget of 2006 — The HurriQuake Nail

eldavojohn writes "Popular Science is naming its Best of What's New of 2006 and the one at the top doesn't have much to do with circuitry or computers. Instead, it's a nail. Not your average nail though, the HurriQuake nail [flash] spent six years in development." From the article: "As the Bostitch team tweaked the head-to-shank ratio, Sutt and metallurgist Tom Stall worked on optimizing high-carbon alloys, trying to find the highest-strength trade-off between stiffness and pliability — the key to preventing snapped nails. 'Meanwhile,' Sutt says, 'we were focusing on how to keep the nail from pulling out.' The team machined a series of barbed rings that extend up the nail's shaft from its point, experimenting with the size and placement of the barbs. 'You want the rings to have maximum holding power,' he says, 'but if they go up too high, it creates a more brittle shank that shears more easily.'"

29 of 279 comments (clear)

  1. Neat by merc · · Score: 4, Funny

    I can't wait to use this in Quake.

    --
    It's true no man is an island, but if you take a bunch of dead guys and tie 'em together, they make a good raft.
    1. Re:Neat by illuminatedwax · · Score: 3, Funny

      Actually, this is a really good excuse to delay shipment! "We just wanted to have the best nailgun possible for gamers to play with!"

      --
      Did you ever notice that *nix doesn't even cover Linux?
  2. A better nail by Duncan3 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They are called screws, and they have been known for a few thousand years to be vastly better then nails. Most any floor that's nailed down squeaks for example. And if you want something really good, you use bolts.

    And their "patent pending" features you'll find on most all the masonry nails in the hardware store.

    --
    - Adam L. Beberg - The Cosm Project - http://www.mithral.com/
    1. Re:A better nail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Somebody missed the point. These new nails bridge the gap between traditional nails and screws yet cost less than screws. Screws add more time for installation and labor as holes need to be pre-drilled if you want them to be straight and you can't use anything as quick as a nailgun. These can be used in normal nailguns and add only $15 to the cost of constructing a house with them compared to traditional nails.

    2. Re:A better nail by cooldev · · Score: 5, Insightful

      In other words, you're saying that Bostitch's team of researchers spent six years researching and designing a product and accidentally overlooked the screw? And in naming it a "Best of What's New", PopSci also must have also overlooked that very subtle and mostly unknown but perfectly viable alternative: the screw?

      And of course, for the patent pending features I'm sure they never thought to go to a hardware store and look at other nails. It's clear that your 20 seconds of thought is superior to their six years of research.

      It's so typical of Slashdot readers to waaay underestimate and devalue real research & development and the seemingly minor innovations that come out of it, but fall short of completely revolutionary turn-the-world-upside-down grand-scale innovations -- like building a time machine and teleporter (that's also portable and inexpensive, of course!).

      However, looking at your home page, as a researcher it's surprising that you're one of these people.

    3. Re:A better nail by cowscows · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Your average screw won't pull out easily, but fails to sheer stress much sooner than a framing nail. I'd imagine it's possible to design a screw that resists sheer forces as well as a framing nail, but it'd likely be large and expensive, or else someone would've done it already and they'd be in wide use.

      Bolts are nice, but expensive and time consuming.

      --

      One time I threw a brick at a duck.

    4. Re:A better nail by Hatta · · Score: 4, Funny

      And....you can take them out if you screw up!

      And if you screw down, you can put them in!

      --
      Give me Classic Slashdot or give me death!
    5. Re:A better nail by cooldev · · Score: 4, Insightful
      AC:
      This is innovation in the same way the Microsoft does "innovation".

      Actually, this was my primary reason for responding. Because it's not a teleporter and time machine all-in-one device, you and many others like you don't find it innovative. That's not because it's not innovative, it's because you don't understand what innovation is. You confuse innovation with some sort of absolutely-pure groundbreaking invention, whereas 99% of real innovation consists of incremental (and sometimes subtle) improvements such as this. But even those small improvements are important and often take years of research and development.

      I think we all know by now that just because its been patented doesn't mean that its original or non-obvious...

      It hasn't been patented; it's patent pending. Maybe it will get rejected. But with most innovations, they're "obvious" once you have 20/20 hindsight, even though it may have taken years of research and development and testing to figure out.

    6. Re:A better nail by greginterrupted · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They are called screws, and they have been known for a few thousand years to be vastly better then nails. Most any floor that's nailed down squeaks for example. And if you want something really good, you use bolts. And their "patent pending" features you'll find on most all the masonry nails in the hardware store.

      All of the comments I have read so far are about shooting down this guy's invention. I guess there are more computer programmers than framers or contractors on Slashdot.

      The example of squeaky floors is something that is directly addressed in the article. The nails have a twist towards the head of the nail to make them less likely to back out. It works under normal conditions, too - it doesn't have to be used in only hurricane prone areas.

      Patent pending features? I've build many structures and worked at a few hardware stores, and the only thing that masonry nails have going for them is that they are thick, slightly harder than common nails, and they have a twist. They will still pull out of wood in a hurricane and probably will squeak if used incorrectly in a wooden floor instead of driving them into concrete.

      The guy in this article put ring shanks on the nail, gave it a twist so it wouldn't back out, and put on a larger head. I've never seen a nail like that before. He ALSO re engineered the material because he wanted an alloy that was hard enough to function as a nail, but soft enough so that it would not snap under stress. It took hundreds of prototypes to create this nail, and the article says that this technology will only add $15 to the building cost of a house. I think that's quite an accomplishment.

      Also, the screws they use in construction are WEAK. They're cheap steel (or a cheap alloy) and are galvanized. Sure, they work for decking, but are NOT suitable for use in framing, while these nails are. The screws you are thinking of have a countersunk head on them and they will also pull through a board easily. I've snapped these screws off using a cheap 12v electric drill.

      What have you invented lately?

    7. Re:A better nail by QuasiEvil · · Score: 5, Informative

      Haven't spent much time in construction, have we? Through college, I spent a couple summers framing houses. The days were long, and you'd come home exhausted, but you had to absolutely work your butt off if you wanted to come in on budget and actually make a buck after paying labor. Of course, I was one of the labor, but it was a small, family company I was working for, so I got an idea of how the business side actually worked. Screws are *slow* to install, compared with a guy and a nail gun. When every extra minute is eating into the bottom line, the extra time it would have taken to use screws would have "screwed" us.

      Non-removable nails don't sound that bad to me - once you knew what the hell you were doing, you didn't screw up much, particularly with a nail gun that drove nails in so deep you couldn't easily get them out anyway. If you missed by a small amount, you generally just threw in another nail and left the first one (bent over, of course, if it was sticking out). If they hold better and fit in the ol' nail gun, bring them on!

    8. Re:A better nail by TubeSteak · · Score: 3, Informative
      Screws add more time for installation and labor as holes need to be pre-drilled if you want them to be straight and you can't use anything as quick as a nailgun.
      Sounds like you've never heard of a Screw Gun + self tapping screws.

      But, not everyone has a screw gun. OTOH, even though nail guns are wildly popular, they might not be able to handle the oversize head on those nails.
      --
      [Fuck Beta]
      o0t!
    9. Re:A better nail by georgewilliamherbert · · Score: 5, Interesting


      Normal screws the size of nails tend to fail in shear at much lower stress. This is not bullshit.

      Larger screws made out of stronger alloys don't, but are typically too big to usefully stick a 2x4 to another 2x4, or hold a sheet of plywood into a 2x4 with typical installation accuracy. And require a pre-drilled hole, which at least doubles the time to install. These screws are not useful for typical building construction tasks. Cracking the wood all to hell installing oversize nails or screws incorrectly is far from the best solution.

      Wood is a hard material to join really well. You can do all sorts of half-ass methods and get two pieces of wood to stick together adequately, but doing a really good job is a lot harder. Because it's got grain and fiber, you need a lot of bearing surface to avoid the connector pulling out. Screws do great at that, but have less shear resistance, and lower cost screws are too brittle and crack right off in shear (and sometimes in tension). Nails are great at shear and are made out of alloys that rarely crack, but can pull right out. Boat nails, ring nails, other stuff is out there, but this seems to be a pretty big advance in balancing the shear and tension capabilities, ease of installation, etc.

      For absolute optimal strength, pre-drilled carefully sized screws work pretty well. This nail should be about as strong, but about 10% the effort to install, and probably a tenth the cost for the fastener.

      There was a time that it was safe to assume that people at least had built a treehouse or some such and had a clue about basic woodworking techniques. Apparently that time is now past.

  3. Re:Huh ? by BSAtHome · · Score: 3, Funny

    No, they just forgot to put a microchip in the nail. Maybe a RFID tag for finding them after the storm...

  4. Building codes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The issue is not that the structures can't handle the winds. It is that the construction codes are not being followed by the builders. Construction is so poor because of cost-cutting by contractors and/or unskilled labor and cutting corners. This was true with Andrew (Miami) and continues to be true. If contractors built to the code and inspectors held them to it, alot of the damage seen would not occur. I have a house that was only 5 miles from the eye of Hurricane Charlie (140+ mph winds) and suffered minimal damage (a few pieces of soffet blown off, no shingles or other damage). But ... we watched the contractors and ensured that they did everything by the book. Neighbors saw their (oftern much more expensive) homes literally blown to the ground. Older structures (60's/70's) also saw little damage.

    So ... just make sure the builders build to the code. Adding a better nail won't cure sloppy cost-cutting construction.

  5. Fat Head Patent by 4D6963 · · Score: 3, Funny

    They patented the fat head technology. I'm sure many people in Hollywood or Washington D.C. could claim prior art on this one

    --
    You just got troll'd!
  6. Build a better nail by Miertam · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And the construction industry will beat a path to your door. Yes screws are a better fastener but they take much longer to install driving the labor costs up. This is a case where they applied complex tech to the design of something simple and improved it.

  7. Sounds a bit like Boat Nails by dsci · · Score: 4, Informative

    The team machined a series of barbed rings that extend up the nail's shaft from its point

    Boat Nails have been around quite a while; barbs on nails is not new.

    disclaimer: no affiliation with linked-to company in any way; just using as a reference.

    --
    Computational Chemistry products and services.
  8. Yes, but will it counter substandard construction? by Programmer_Errant · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I don't think any house is built to standard these days. If the standard says 3 nails per stud, you're lucky to get two nails per. The resulting house is so flimsy that you can literally grab a house by the corner post after the framing in done and wobble the entire structure back and forth. Sometimes even after the sheathing in put on. Sheathing isn't supposed to be the main factor in structural stability, it's there for insulation. Housing inspectors aren't a help here. They're incredibily corrupt.

    IIRC, a lot of the damage from hurricanes was to houses not built to existing code. So unless they use these nails on the builders themselves, I don't think they'll do that much good.

  9. Wind Resistant Construction by KonoWatakushi · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They are marketing these nails as superior fasteners that will withstand a high wind environment. However, they are only fasteners, and the rest of the structure is still just as vulnerable to threats such as fire, water, termites, and so forth. For a truly robust, energy efficient, and long-lasting structure, the obvious solution is concrete.

    Insulating Concrete Forms are basically like Legos made out of an insulating foam. You stack them together, insert rebar, and fill with concrete. The cost is estimated at 5% more than standard wood frame houses, and are superior in every way.

    As the earth warms, storms will continue to become stronger and stronger. "An Inconvenient Truth" goes into more detail, and if you haven't seen it, you really should. In any case, it is about time that we started building more durable structures.

  10. Wooden houses by Maimun · · Score: 4, Interesting
    As a European, I was very surprised to find out that most houses in Canada and the States are made of woode. Actually, I should have noticed that before, having seen numerous American films. It is so obvious in them the houses are wooden once you pay attention. To me, a house is something made of concrete and bricks.

    I am not trying to annoy anyone here with this comment, just sharing an opinion. A house made of wood feels somehow un-solid (and unsafe, given the strictly positive probability of a fire that is always present). Plus, immediately after arriving in Canada (my first encounter with N. America), I was struck by the fact that all houses I visited (I was looking for a room to rent in Victoria, BC, Canada, and visited quite a few houses in my first several days there) had a strong, pungent, "chemical" smell. First I thought it has to be some commonly used cleaning substance. Later I decided that it has to be some chemicals that the wood had been treated with, probably to repel wood-eating insects or to prevent the wood from decaying. Interestingly, after having lived there for months I stopped feeling the smell -- but going back to my homeland for a vacation and then back to Canada, I would be struck by the peculiar smell again.

    I realise wooden houses are cheaper and faster to build, but, IMHO, they are a poor substitute for brick-and-concrete ones.

    1. Re:Wooden houses by mschuyler · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Let's do a test. (We may actually be able to do this with historical data.) Take the average European city with houses made of stones, bricks, etc. Take a similar US/Canadian city with houses made of wood. Apply a 7.9 Richter scale quake. Measure resulting destruction. Would you rather be in a 17th century English brick house on the historical register with no changes allowed? Or in a modern American wood house building-code compliant? Would you rather have a tile roof in such a situation? or maybe composition?

      FYI Re: Building code compliance. I've just participated in building a few houses. The new codes are really putting the screws to earthquake construction, literally. The new braces required between foundation and joists are really incredible. Zillions of nails in each brace and every hole must be filled. Contractors amy not want to do it, but they MUST use the new techniques or they don't pass inspection. The codes are evolutionary, but hey do keep getting tougher.

      FYI: Wood houses. Seattle, for example, is only 150 years old. Tere are still lots of forests here, lots of wood. Great Britain, for example, ran out of oak to build the Royal Navy ships, so one of the admirals under Lord Nelson planted a bunch of oak trees on his property in hopes there would be enough oak for the Royal Navy to build ships in 1900.

      --
      How about a moderation of -1 pedantic.
    2. Re:Wooden houses by repvik · · Score: 3, Interesting

      "As a European, I was very surprised to find out that most houses in Canada and the States are made of woode. Actually, I should have noticed that before, having seen numerous American films. It is so obvious in them the houses are wooden once you pay attention. To me, a house is something made of concrete and bricks."

      As an European, *I* was very surprised to find out that houses in e.g. Ireland was mainly concrete and bricks. To me, a house is something made of wood. I'm from Scandinavia though, where we've build with wood since the dawn of time. Here, the extreme temperatures require wood, since it's far better to insulate than concrete/bricks. It also "lives" and breathes. In the houses/buildings I've stayed in over a longer period of time, I've noticed that the air inside concrete/brick buildings isn't by far as good as that in wood.

  11. Re:US house construction? by artifex2004 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's a bit like asking why so many computers keep getting sold with such flimsy or poor quality components. It's all about the profit margin, and targeting a certain demographic.

    People want certain amenities in their houses, but are only willing to pay a certain amount, so they go with housebuilders that meet their price points.
    Of course, that means shortcuts behind the scenes, perhaps even the corruption other people here seem to say is endemic, too.
    Not to mention, a lot of people are just ignorant of what goes into quality building, and some just buy a house thinking they'll move with their job in 5 years or so, anyway, so why bother?

    I only know anything about home construction because I watch a lot of home repair shows. Which means I really don't know much.
    I'd pay $100 or more for a real, regularly updated text that explains what the newest, best housing materials and methods are, and how to manage a builder, so that when I finally go buy a house, I can look for a builder who will build with those things. I'm sure I'll need an architect, too, but I don't even know that process, either.

  12. Re:Yes, but will it counter substandard constructi by voidptr · · Score: 4, Informative
    Sheathing isn't supposed to be the main factor in structural stability, it's there for insulation.


    One of the primary purposes of sheathing is to brace the wall against sheer forces. A square plate and stud wall has no strength against sheer forces unless it's braced diagonally corner to corner. Plywood sheathing properly attached acts as that diagonal brace. Otherwise the top and bottom plates are free to slide parallel to each other and turn the wall into a parallelogram.
    --
    This .sig for unofficial government use only. Official use subject to $500 fine.
  13. Nails still much faster. by Kadin2048 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Even a screw gun / power driver with self-tapping screws takes a lot longer to drive each fastener, than a pneumatic nail gun. I don't think there's any way that you can drive a threaded fastener with anywhere near the speed that you can drive in a nail. In the time a person can drive in a screw, you can put in a handful of nails.

    --
    "Ladies and gentlemen, my killbot features Lotus Notes and a machine gun. It is the finest available."
    1. Re:Nails still much faster. by abradsn · · Score: 4, Informative

      I knew that someone would bring this point up.

      It seems to make sense right?

      Unfortunately, the fact is that manufactured/modular homes are of the worst quality made almsot entirely by people who are not carpenters.

      I should group tract homes into this category too, but I don't want to waste a lot of time on slashdot explaining why.

      Basically, there are two kinds of buildings. Those built by idiots/ built for profit, and those buildings that are built custom to live in or to be directly used by the person paying for the construction. Guess which building type turns out to be of higher quality almost every time.

      Though, let me not miss the point. I do agree with the main part of your post. Building stick frame homes is slow, and perhaps stupid. I'm just pointing out that it is the quality of construction that matters more than anything. Building with Logs, bricks, cement, glass, steele can be great, or it can be dumb too. It might depend on the climate. Sometimes, ice is a great resource for building material. Context is important.

      By the way, you might want to check out metal buildings. They can be built quickly, and by a couple of people. Same thing with cement buildings. Same thing with simple rectangular stick frame buildings.

  14. Great! by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 4, Funny

    So instead of your roofing blowing off, now your whole house blows away!

    --
    Engineering is the art of compromise.
    1. Re:Great! by NeilTheStupidHead · · Score: 4, Informative

      I haven't seen too many concrete slabs or foundations blow away. Sill bolts are usually 1/2" or 5/8" tempered steel and a properly designed... or rather, a properly *built* house will have sufficient numbers of bolts to distribute the weight evenly and prevent pull out. And as the article states: Home owners will love the innovation and the marginal increase in cost but builders will hate it; not only because removing a nail will be ridiculously difficult, but also because homes that don't fall down don't have to be re-built. If you make your money building homes and you build homes that last forever, then you will eventually become obsolete. The trend since the 1950's has been to build homes using progressively cheaper materials with progressively shorter lifespans. It's called 'progress' because the cost of building homes decreases (subject to market pressures) and more and more people can 'afford' to live in the suburbs. In reality, this trend simply fosters a cycle of increasing consumer debt, both because you now need a car to drive the extra distance to work every day, and because your home is in a constant state of degradation and needs to be maintained. Add to that the idea of 'keeping up with the Joneses': that you have to have a car and home that are as nice or nicer than your neighbours' instead of living both within your means and within practicality and you have a culture that is ripe for widespread debt and economic stagnation. Or worse, you get stagflation where the economy stagnates but prices continue to increase, now your loaf of bread costs a dollar fifty instead of a dollar but you still have the same income so you've got to trim 50 cents from your budget somewhere else. It happened in the UK in the 60s and 70s and here in the US and Canada in the 70s and 80s and it'll happen again, sooner rather than later.

      --
      Lose: misplace or fail || Loose: not bound together
    2. Re:Great! by Dun+Malg · · Score: 3, Insightful
      but builders will hate it; not only because removing a nail will be ridiculously difficult, but also because homes that don't fall down don't have to be re-built. If you make your money building homes and you build homes that last forever, then you will eventually become obsolete. The trend since the 1950's has been to build homes using progressively cheaper materials with progressively shorter lifespans.
      Bollocks. Typical ridiculous conspiracy theory nonsense. Builders do not engage in "planned obsolescence". They don't necessarily even plan to still be in the business by the time a "planned obsolescent" house would fall down, much less plan to be the guy re-building it. Ten years later, when the crappiest built house starts to show its age, how did the crappy builder ensure that he would be the one the current owner would call? Furthermore, have you ever met any general contractors? It's hard enough to get a house built, much less play puppetmaster with the rough carpenters' materials in such a Machiavellian way as to make the house fall down just in time for them to show up offering to help. No, the notion is entirely absurd. The reason builders use cheap materials is very simply the obvious one: cheaper materials cost them less, which maximizes their profit on a fixed bid job.
      --
      If a job's not worth doing, it's not worth doing right.