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Top Gadget of 2006 — The HurriQuake Nail

eldavojohn writes "Popular Science is naming its Best of What's New of 2006 and the one at the top doesn't have much to do with circuitry or computers. Instead, it's a nail. Not your average nail though, the HurriQuake nail [flash] spent six years in development." From the article: "As the Bostitch team tweaked the head-to-shank ratio, Sutt and metallurgist Tom Stall worked on optimizing high-carbon alloys, trying to find the highest-strength trade-off between stiffness and pliability — the key to preventing snapped nails. 'Meanwhile,' Sutt says, 'we were focusing on how to keep the nail from pulling out.' The team machined a series of barbed rings that extend up the nail's shaft from its point, experimenting with the size and placement of the barbs. 'You want the rings to have maximum holding power,' he says, 'but if they go up too high, it creates a more brittle shank that shears more easily.'"

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  1. Neat by merc · · Score: 4, Funny

    I can't wait to use this in Quake.

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    1. Re:Neat by rvw · · Score: 2, Funny

      I can't wait to use this in Duke Nuke Hurry Hurry!

    2. Re:Neat by illuminatedwax · · Score: 3, Funny

      Actually, this is a really good excuse to delay shipment! "We just wanted to have the best nailgun possible for gamers to play with!"

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  2. A better nail by Duncan3 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They are called screws, and they have been known for a few thousand years to be vastly better then nails. Most any floor that's nailed down squeaks for example. And if you want something really good, you use bolts.

    And their "patent pending" features you'll find on most all the masonry nails in the hardware store.

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    1. Re:A better nail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Somebody missed the point. These new nails bridge the gap between traditional nails and screws yet cost less than screws. Screws add more time for installation and labor as holes need to be pre-drilled if you want them to be straight and you can't use anything as quick as a nailgun. These can be used in normal nailguns and add only $15 to the cost of constructing a house with them compared to traditional nails.

    2. Re:A better nail by cooldev · · Score: 5, Insightful

      In other words, you're saying that Bostitch's team of researchers spent six years researching and designing a product and accidentally overlooked the screw? And in naming it a "Best of What's New", PopSci also must have also overlooked that very subtle and mostly unknown but perfectly viable alternative: the screw?

      And of course, for the patent pending features I'm sure they never thought to go to a hardware store and look at other nails. It's clear that your 20 seconds of thought is superior to their six years of research.

      It's so typical of Slashdot readers to waaay underestimate and devalue real research & development and the seemingly minor innovations that come out of it, but fall short of completely revolutionary turn-the-world-upside-down grand-scale innovations -- like building a time machine and teleporter (that's also portable and inexpensive, of course!).

      However, looking at your home page, as a researcher it's surprising that you're one of these people.

    3. Re:A better nail by cowscows · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Your average screw won't pull out easily, but fails to sheer stress much sooner than a framing nail. I'd imagine it's possible to design a screw that resists sheer forces as well as a framing nail, but it'd likely be large and expensive, or else someone would've done it already and they'd be in wide use.

      Bolts are nice, but expensive and time consuming.

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    4. Re:A better nail by Hatta · · Score: 4, Funny

      And....you can take them out if you screw up!

      And if you screw down, you can put them in!

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    5. Re:A better nail by cooldev · · Score: 4, Insightful
      AC:
      This is innovation in the same way the Microsoft does "innovation".

      Actually, this was my primary reason for responding. Because it's not a teleporter and time machine all-in-one device, you and many others like you don't find it innovative. That's not because it's not innovative, it's because you don't understand what innovation is. You confuse innovation with some sort of absolutely-pure groundbreaking invention, whereas 99% of real innovation consists of incremental (and sometimes subtle) improvements such as this. But even those small improvements are important and often take years of research and development.

      I think we all know by now that just because its been patented doesn't mean that its original or non-obvious...

      It hasn't been patented; it's patent pending. Maybe it will get rejected. But with most innovations, they're "obvious" once you have 20/20 hindsight, even though it may have taken years of research and development and testing to figure out.

    6. Re:A better nail by greginterrupted · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They are called screws, and they have been known for a few thousand years to be vastly better then nails. Most any floor that's nailed down squeaks for example. And if you want something really good, you use bolts. And their "patent pending" features you'll find on most all the masonry nails in the hardware store.

      All of the comments I have read so far are about shooting down this guy's invention. I guess there are more computer programmers than framers or contractors on Slashdot.

      The example of squeaky floors is something that is directly addressed in the article. The nails have a twist towards the head of the nail to make them less likely to back out. It works under normal conditions, too - it doesn't have to be used in only hurricane prone areas.

      Patent pending features? I've build many structures and worked at a few hardware stores, and the only thing that masonry nails have going for them is that they are thick, slightly harder than common nails, and they have a twist. They will still pull out of wood in a hurricane and probably will squeak if used incorrectly in a wooden floor instead of driving them into concrete.

      The guy in this article put ring shanks on the nail, gave it a twist so it wouldn't back out, and put on a larger head. I've never seen a nail like that before. He ALSO re engineered the material because he wanted an alloy that was hard enough to function as a nail, but soft enough so that it would not snap under stress. It took hundreds of prototypes to create this nail, and the article says that this technology will only add $15 to the building cost of a house. I think that's quite an accomplishment.

      Also, the screws they use in construction are WEAK. They're cheap steel (or a cheap alloy) and are galvanized. Sure, they work for decking, but are NOT suitable for use in framing, while these nails are. The screws you are thinking of have a countersunk head on them and they will also pull through a board easily. I've snapped these screws off using a cheap 12v electric drill.

      What have you invented lately?

    7. Re:A better nail by QuasiEvil · · Score: 5, Informative

      Haven't spent much time in construction, have we? Through college, I spent a couple summers framing houses. The days were long, and you'd come home exhausted, but you had to absolutely work your butt off if you wanted to come in on budget and actually make a buck after paying labor. Of course, I was one of the labor, but it was a small, family company I was working for, so I got an idea of how the business side actually worked. Screws are *slow* to install, compared with a guy and a nail gun. When every extra minute is eating into the bottom line, the extra time it would have taken to use screws would have "screwed" us.

      Non-removable nails don't sound that bad to me - once you knew what the hell you were doing, you didn't screw up much, particularly with a nail gun that drove nails in so deep you couldn't easily get them out anyway. If you missed by a small amount, you generally just threw in another nail and left the first one (bent over, of course, if it was sticking out). If they hold better and fit in the ol' nail gun, bring them on!

    8. Re:A better nail by TubeSteak · · Score: 3, Informative
      Screws add more time for installation and labor as holes need to be pre-drilled if you want them to be straight and you can't use anything as quick as a nailgun.
      Sounds like you've never heard of a Screw Gun + self tapping screws.

      But, not everyone has a screw gun. OTOH, even though nail guns are wildly popular, they might not be able to handle the oversize head on those nails.
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    9. Re:A better nail by cooldev · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Yes, they were designing a nail, why would they be looking at screws?

      No, they were looking for a practical way to lessen the devastating affects of hurricanes and earthquakes and you completely dismissed their research and development with your "duh, screws" comment.

    10. Re:A better nail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, yes and no. We don't make that many wooden shacks over this side of the pond, they tend to be dried mud (aka brick), and they don't blow down in a slight breeze. To be fair, though, bricks probably don't fare that well in an earthquake, wooden frames are no doubt a better bet in that scenario.

      If I'm building (or having built) something for myself, though, I'd rather have it done properly than fast, and sod the expense. I'd rather not have squeaky floors and I'd rather not have to fix stuff later.

      Funnily enough, the last building with any kind of wooden frame that I lived in didn't use nails or screws. Then again, it was made in the 11th century...

    11. Re:A better nail by georgewilliamherbert · · Score: 5, Interesting


      Normal screws the size of nails tend to fail in shear at much lower stress. This is not bullshit.

      Larger screws made out of stronger alloys don't, but are typically too big to usefully stick a 2x4 to another 2x4, or hold a sheet of plywood into a 2x4 with typical installation accuracy. And require a pre-drilled hole, which at least doubles the time to install. These screws are not useful for typical building construction tasks. Cracking the wood all to hell installing oversize nails or screws incorrectly is far from the best solution.

      Wood is a hard material to join really well. You can do all sorts of half-ass methods and get two pieces of wood to stick together adequately, but doing a really good job is a lot harder. Because it's got grain and fiber, you need a lot of bearing surface to avoid the connector pulling out. Screws do great at that, but have less shear resistance, and lower cost screws are too brittle and crack right off in shear (and sometimes in tension). Nails are great at shear and are made out of alloys that rarely crack, but can pull right out. Boat nails, ring nails, other stuff is out there, but this seems to be a pretty big advance in balancing the shear and tension capabilities, ease of installation, etc.

      For absolute optimal strength, pre-drilled carefully sized screws work pretty well. This nail should be about as strong, but about 10% the effort to install, and probably a tenth the cost for the fastener.

      There was a time that it was safe to assume that people at least had built a treehouse or some such and had a clue about basic woodworking techniques. Apparently that time is now past.

    12. Re:A better nail by NeilTheStupidHead · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Roof trusses are usually held together with mending plates or nailing plates: A rectangular piece of metal as large as the timber allows, either with holes to drive a nail through or attached prongs which are nailed directly on either side of two pieces of a truss. And when you want a truss securely fastened to the top of a wall, you use an angled piece of metal, frequently called a 'hurricane tie'. It spreads the load out over a larger section of a wall and makes it less likely to fail under high winds.

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  3. Re:Huh ? by BSAtHome · · Score: 3, Funny

    No, they just forgot to put a microchip in the nail. Maybe a RFID tag for finding them after the storm...

  4. Building codes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The issue is not that the structures can't handle the winds. It is that the construction codes are not being followed by the builders. Construction is so poor because of cost-cutting by contractors and/or unskilled labor and cutting corners. This was true with Andrew (Miami) and continues to be true. If contractors built to the code and inspectors held them to it, alot of the damage seen would not occur. I have a house that was only 5 miles from the eye of Hurricane Charlie (140+ mph winds) and suffered minimal damage (a few pieces of soffet blown off, no shingles or other damage). But ... we watched the contractors and ensured that they did everything by the book. Neighbors saw their (oftern much more expensive) homes literally blown to the ground. Older structures (60's/70's) also saw little damage.

    So ... just make sure the builders build to the code. Adding a better nail won't cure sloppy cost-cutting construction.

    1. Re:Building codes by mrchaotica · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Because houses here are built as cheaply as possible, often even using unskilled illegal-immigrant labor (not that the lazy white hicks that would be the alternative around here would be any better...). Also, we don't have the benefit of comparison to 1000 year old examples of (apparently) good construction to shame the builders into good behavior, as you do over there. In other words, our structures suck because everyone is either too lazy (workers), greedy (builders), or stupid (owners) to care.

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  5. Fat Head Patent by 4D6963 · · Score: 3, Funny

    They patented the fat head technology. I'm sure many people in Hollywood or Washington D.C. could claim prior art on this one

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  6. Build a better nail by Miertam · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And the construction industry will beat a path to your door. Yes screws are a better fastener but they take much longer to install driving the labor costs up. This is a case where they applied complex tech to the design of something simple and improved it.

  7. Sounds a bit like Boat Nails by dsci · · Score: 4, Informative

    The team machined a series of barbed rings that extend up the nail's shaft from its point

    Boat Nails have been around quite a while; barbs on nails is not new.

    disclaimer: no affiliation with linked-to company in any way; just using as a reference.

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  8. Yes, but will it counter substandard construction? by Programmer_Errant · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I don't think any house is built to standard these days. If the standard says 3 nails per stud, you're lucky to get two nails per. The resulting house is so flimsy that you can literally grab a house by the corner post after the framing in done and wobble the entire structure back and forth. Sometimes even after the sheathing in put on. Sheathing isn't supposed to be the main factor in structural stability, it's there for insulation. Housing inspectors aren't a help here. They're incredibily corrupt.

    IIRC, a lot of the damage from hurricanes was to houses not built to existing code. So unless they use these nails on the builders themselves, I don't think they'll do that much good.

  9. Wind Resistant Construction by KonoWatakushi · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They are marketing these nails as superior fasteners that will withstand a high wind environment. However, they are only fasteners, and the rest of the structure is still just as vulnerable to threats such as fire, water, termites, and so forth. For a truly robust, energy efficient, and long-lasting structure, the obvious solution is concrete.

    Insulating Concrete Forms are basically like Legos made out of an insulating foam. You stack them together, insert rebar, and fill with concrete. The cost is estimated at 5% more than standard wood frame houses, and are superior in every way.

    As the earth warms, storms will continue to become stronger and stronger. "An Inconvenient Truth" goes into more detail, and if you haven't seen it, you really should. In any case, it is about time that we started building more durable structures.

  10. Wooden houses by Maimun · · Score: 4, Interesting
    As a European, I was very surprised to find out that most houses in Canada and the States are made of woode. Actually, I should have noticed that before, having seen numerous American films. It is so obvious in them the houses are wooden once you pay attention. To me, a house is something made of concrete and bricks.

    I am not trying to annoy anyone here with this comment, just sharing an opinion. A house made of wood feels somehow un-solid (and unsafe, given the strictly positive probability of a fire that is always present). Plus, immediately after arriving in Canada (my first encounter with N. America), I was struck by the fact that all houses I visited (I was looking for a room to rent in Victoria, BC, Canada, and visited quite a few houses in my first several days there) had a strong, pungent, "chemical" smell. First I thought it has to be some commonly used cleaning substance. Later I decided that it has to be some chemicals that the wood had been treated with, probably to repel wood-eating insects or to prevent the wood from decaying. Interestingly, after having lived there for months I stopped feeling the smell -- but going back to my homeland for a vacation and then back to Canada, I would be struck by the peculiar smell again.

    I realise wooden houses are cheaper and faster to build, but, IMHO, they are a poor substitute for brick-and-concrete ones.

    1. Re:Wooden houses by mschuyler · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Let's do a test. (We may actually be able to do this with historical data.) Take the average European city with houses made of stones, bricks, etc. Take a similar US/Canadian city with houses made of wood. Apply a 7.9 Richter scale quake. Measure resulting destruction. Would you rather be in a 17th century English brick house on the historical register with no changes allowed? Or in a modern American wood house building-code compliant? Would you rather have a tile roof in such a situation? or maybe composition?

      FYI Re: Building code compliance. I've just participated in building a few houses. The new codes are really putting the screws to earthquake construction, literally. The new braces required between foundation and joists are really incredible. Zillions of nails in each brace and every hole must be filled. Contractors amy not want to do it, but they MUST use the new techniques or they don't pass inspection. The codes are evolutionary, but hey do keep getting tougher.

      FYI: Wood houses. Seattle, for example, is only 150 years old. Tere are still lots of forests here, lots of wood. Great Britain, for example, ran out of oak to build the Royal Navy ships, so one of the admirals under Lord Nelson planted a bunch of oak trees on his property in hopes there would be enough oak for the Royal Navy to build ships in 1900.

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    2. Re:Wooden houses by repvik · · Score: 3, Interesting

      "As a European, I was very surprised to find out that most houses in Canada and the States are made of woode. Actually, I should have noticed that before, having seen numerous American films. It is so obvious in them the houses are wooden once you pay attention. To me, a house is something made of concrete and bricks."

      As an European, *I* was very surprised to find out that houses in e.g. Ireland was mainly concrete and bricks. To me, a house is something made of wood. I'm from Scandinavia though, where we've build with wood since the dawn of time. Here, the extreme temperatures require wood, since it's far better to insulate than concrete/bricks. It also "lives" and breathes. In the houses/buildings I've stayed in over a longer period of time, I've noticed that the air inside concrete/brick buildings isn't by far as good as that in wood.

  11. Re:US house construction? by artifex2004 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's a bit like asking why so many computers keep getting sold with such flimsy or poor quality components. It's all about the profit margin, and targeting a certain demographic.

    People want certain amenities in their houses, but are only willing to pay a certain amount, so they go with housebuilders that meet their price points.
    Of course, that means shortcuts behind the scenes, perhaps even the corruption other people here seem to say is endemic, too.
    Not to mention, a lot of people are just ignorant of what goes into quality building, and some just buy a house thinking they'll move with their job in 5 years or so, anyway, so why bother?

    I only know anything about home construction because I watch a lot of home repair shows. Which means I really don't know much.
    I'd pay $100 or more for a real, regularly updated text that explains what the newest, best housing materials and methods are, and how to manage a builder, so that when I finally go buy a house, I can look for a builder who will build with those things. I'm sure I'll need an architect, too, but I don't even know that process, either.

  12. Re:Yes, but will it counter substandard constructi by voidptr · · Score: 4, Informative
    Sheathing isn't supposed to be the main factor in structural stability, it's there for insulation.


    One of the primary purposes of sheathing is to brace the wall against sheer forces. A square plate and stud wall has no strength against sheer forces unless it's braced diagonally corner to corner. Plywood sheathing properly attached acts as that diagonal brace. Otherwise the top and bottom plates are free to slide parallel to each other and turn the wall into a parallelogram.
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  13. Sounds like good news for the GOP by confield · · Score: 2, Funny

    I can just picture it now... President Bush delivering a speech in New Orleans to the flood victims proclaiming his administration successfully found a solution to the problem thanks to good old fashioned American ingenuity. Of course, during this time military aircraft will do overhead drops of "Freedom Hammers" and "Salvation Nails". Pound it in the name of freedom, baby.

  14. Nails still much faster. by Kadin2048 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Even a screw gun / power driver with self-tapping screws takes a lot longer to drive each fastener, than a pneumatic nail gun. I don't think there's any way that you can drive a threaded fastener with anywhere near the speed that you can drive in a nail. In the time a person can drive in a screw, you can put in a handful of nails.

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    1. Re:Nails still much faster. by marol · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If paying the hours of Joe the nail driving roof guy is a major cost factor when building a house, the house is probably too cheap and won't stand a hurricane anyway. Joe can probably use fewer screws further apart and still get a better result than this alleged super-nail at roughly the same price, only increasing costs of wages.

    2. Re:Nails still much faster. by abradsn · · Score: 4, Informative

      I knew that someone would bring this point up.

      It seems to make sense right?

      Unfortunately, the fact is that manufactured/modular homes are of the worst quality made almsot entirely by people who are not carpenters.

      I should group tract homes into this category too, but I don't want to waste a lot of time on slashdot explaining why.

      Basically, there are two kinds of buildings. Those built by idiots/ built for profit, and those buildings that are built custom to live in or to be directly used by the person paying for the construction. Guess which building type turns out to be of higher quality almost every time.

      Though, let me not miss the point. I do agree with the main part of your post. Building stick frame homes is slow, and perhaps stupid. I'm just pointing out that it is the quality of construction that matters more than anything. Building with Logs, bricks, cement, glass, steele can be great, or it can be dumb too. It might depend on the climate. Sometimes, ice is a great resource for building material. Context is important.

      By the way, you might want to check out metal buildings. They can be built quickly, and by a couple of people. Same thing with cement buildings. Same thing with simple rectangular stick frame buildings.

    3. Re:Nails still much faster. by joto · · Score: 2, Interesting
      If paying the hours of Joe the nail driving roof guy is a major cost factor when building a house, the house is probably too cheap and won't stand a hurricane anyway. Joe can probably use fewer screws further apart and still get a better result than this alleged super-nail at roughly the same price, only increasing costs of wages.

      According to TFA the cost of nails in a new house is $50-$60. The additional cost if you decide to use HurriQuake, is $15. You can argue all you want, but with a minimum wage salary of $5.15 pr hour, which should cost you as a consumer at least $10 pr hour, I think I would prefer Joe to use HurryQuake, rather than screws. Using screws for an entire house is going to take a lot more time than just one hour. And Joe probably isn't working for minimum wage either.

      Oh, and apart from the cost of labour (and the land lot), a house isn't that expensive. The wood and stones you need can mostly be found for free somewhere out in nature. From these you can manufacture things like cement, bricks, stone wool, wood studs, planks, etc... The great thing about the industrialized world, is that through new inventions we are able to reduce the amount of manual labour in getting things done. Time is money. Even if you worked your entire lifetime, you probably wouldn't be able to build a modern house from stuff you found in the nature. Yet, most people can afford one easily.

  15. Great! by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 4, Funny

    So instead of your roofing blowing off, now your whole house blows away!

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    1. Re:Great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      perfect for that trip to Oz

    2. Re:Great! by NeilTheStupidHead · · Score: 4, Informative

      I haven't seen too many concrete slabs or foundations blow away. Sill bolts are usually 1/2" or 5/8" tempered steel and a properly designed... or rather, a properly *built* house will have sufficient numbers of bolts to distribute the weight evenly and prevent pull out. And as the article states: Home owners will love the innovation and the marginal increase in cost but builders will hate it; not only because removing a nail will be ridiculously difficult, but also because homes that don't fall down don't have to be re-built. If you make your money building homes and you build homes that last forever, then you will eventually become obsolete. The trend since the 1950's has been to build homes using progressively cheaper materials with progressively shorter lifespans. It's called 'progress' because the cost of building homes decreases (subject to market pressures) and more and more people can 'afford' to live in the suburbs. In reality, this trend simply fosters a cycle of increasing consumer debt, both because you now need a car to drive the extra distance to work every day, and because your home is in a constant state of degradation and needs to be maintained. Add to that the idea of 'keeping up with the Joneses': that you have to have a car and home that are as nice or nicer than your neighbours' instead of living both within your means and within practicality and you have a culture that is ripe for widespread debt and economic stagnation. Or worse, you get stagflation where the economy stagnates but prices continue to increase, now your loaf of bread costs a dollar fifty instead of a dollar but you still have the same income so you've got to trim 50 cents from your budget somewhere else. It happened in the UK in the 60s and 70s and here in the US and Canada in the 70s and 80s and it'll happen again, sooner rather than later.

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    3. Re:Great! by Dun+Malg · · Score: 3, Insightful
      but builders will hate it; not only because removing a nail will be ridiculously difficult, but also because homes that don't fall down don't have to be re-built. If you make your money building homes and you build homes that last forever, then you will eventually become obsolete. The trend since the 1950's has been to build homes using progressively cheaper materials with progressively shorter lifespans.
      Bollocks. Typical ridiculous conspiracy theory nonsense. Builders do not engage in "planned obsolescence". They don't necessarily even plan to still be in the business by the time a "planned obsolescent" house would fall down, much less plan to be the guy re-building it. Ten years later, when the crappiest built house starts to show its age, how did the crappy builder ensure that he would be the one the current owner would call? Furthermore, have you ever met any general contractors? It's hard enough to get a house built, much less play puppetmaster with the rough carpenters' materials in such a Machiavellian way as to make the house fall down just in time for them to show up offering to help. No, the notion is entirely absurd. The reason builders use cheap materials is very simply the obvious one: cheaper materials cost them less, which maximizes their profit on a fixed bid job.
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    4. Re:Great! by Mal-2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This only addresses one particular vulnerability in houses, which is external stress. This may make a house last two or three hurricanes instead of one (presuming the absence of a massive flood), and there will still be lots of rebuilding as the roof tears off or the drywall has to be patched after a quake. It's obvious that builders cannot keep up if a region is totally flattened, why would they NOT welcome this? Not to mention the mold that follows a flood or hurricane generates plenty of business without disrupting the community so much. If the entire city is trashed, your rebuilding goes REALLY slowly because you can't get your supplies, or labor (everyone else is building too). If 30% of the city is uninhabitable, you hopefully still have a working city and plenty of work for everyone. If worse comes to worse, move to Las Vegas. Lots of construction, not many calamities.

      Earthquake insurers have begun in the last few years to factor in the increased cost of construction following a catastrophic earthquake. Typically they triple the labor and materials cost to account for the scarcity of both. I think they are being optimistic. Even so, this is the excuse they'll give for the rates doubling or tripling or worse in the last two years. Really it's that they mingle the disaster funds -- my earthquake premiums and your windstorm premiums pay into the same pool. Thus Katrina, with assists from Rita and Dennis (on the power play) just about drained the tank, and they need to fill it up, fast, since there is a reasonable chance things are only going to get worse.

      This also fails to address the "biological clock" that governs most house lifespans -- termites. That is killing the 30-40 year old wood-frame buildings in this area at least. There are 100+ year old wood frame houses left in Los Angeles county, but they have all seen extensive work over their lives. If it's not the wood, it's the plumbing, earthquake retrofitting, insulation, quite possibly replacement of flammable roofing that will limit the practical (read: economically viable) life of a plain vanilla house. Somehow they all have conspired to fall apart at roughly the same time or at an ever-accelerating rate, much like an old car. You can theoretically keep your car running forever, so long as you can get the parts and do it (or pay someone to do it for you), but at some point it becomes economically unviable to drive that '57 Chevy to work, 50 miles a day. You end up taking it around the block once a week and driving a car that just doesn't cost you so much to maintain.

      The analogy breaks down since more people can afford two cars than two houses, and a house not used still can get blown over, catch fire, get flooded, etc., but it's all I can think of right now.

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    5. Re:Great! by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 2, Informative

      Wood might look old-school, but it's a really excellent building material.

      It's got a lot of strength for the weight. It's inexpensive. There are multiple ways of fastening pieces of wood together. It has good strength in compression, good strength in tension, and good bending strength. It can be worked with ordinary tools. It can be worked by hand. Running it through a saw produces relatively harmless sawdust, unlike concrete which requires a more substantial filter to remove lung-damaging silica particles. It requires no special skills to work with. It grows on trees. Defects such as knots and grain irregularities have only a minimal impact on strength. It is flexible, making it robust in winds and earthquakes.

      One of the major reasons houses are blown apart by the wind is the failure of the garage door. When that door gets blown in, air can enter and pressurize the garage, which can blow the walls out or the roof off. Of course, houses can fail in other ways in a heavy wind, but often the first point of failure isn't even made of wood.

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  16. I'll be cynical about this by Catmeat · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The average contractor's response won't be "Great, I'll be buildinding something twice as strong". It will be "Great, I can use half the number of nails."

    So the buildings will still fall down when a hurricane hits.

  17. Re:Yes, but will it counter substandard constructi by w3woody · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If a house is built to substandard specifications it's because the building inspectors in your municipality aren't doing their job. The standard job of a building inspector is to verify at each state of construction that the house is built properly and to specification; if the house is not built to spec, the building inspector has the power to demand that the house be torn down and rebuilt.

    My parents are in the construction industry and I've seen a few times where building inspectors demanded a foundation be torn up and repoured, house framing demolished and rebuilt, and siding reapplied to a house so that it meets code.

    Now in many areas of the country houses are not built to current code. But note the key word here: current. The Unform Building Code is regularly updated every two years or so, so it is possible a house built ten years ago isn't up to today's code--after five revisions to the code, eventually something is going to be considered "substandard" today that was up to code before. My house, for example, does not meet current code; today's building code in the Glendale area requires that all residental structures have an automatic sprinkler system in the house to meet today's code. But because my house was last remodeled in the 70's, there were no requirements then to install an automatic sprinkler system.

  18. Re:A better limit by udderly · · Score: 2, Informative

    Are you aware that local governments already set construction standards? Or do you think that companies should just be able to build whatever, whenever and however, without regard for safety? Have you never heard of Mrs. O'Leary's Cow (please, I know that it was an apocryphal story)?

  19. The fire problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    The thing that burns in a house fire is the contents. It doesn't really matter if the house is fireproof or not, the contents will burn just as well. If the occupants aren't prepared, they will die just as well in a fireproof house. In urban areas, most house fires don't result in irreperable damage to the structure.

    Most municipalities have laws that require smoke detectors in every dwelling. It is also standard to require construction that prevents a burning house from igniting its neighbor. The result is that death by housefire is far behind death by traffic accident. http://www.benbest.com/lifeext/causes.html

    As far as being permanent, wooden structures last forever, as long as they are kept dry. Check out the thousand year old timber churches in Scandanavia.

    The odor problem comes about because we permit all kinds of nasty things in our building materials and consumer products. Carpets and particle board are major offenders. Maybe what you're smelling is formaldyhide.

  20. The nail may rock, but not the name by M0b1u5 · · Score: 2, Funny

    What idiot dreamed up the name "HurriQuake"? That is amazingly poor.

    How about something builders won't feel like a homosexual saying out loud? The less syllables the better.

    Permafix
    NailBolt
    PermaNail
    Relianail
    SureNail
    Safe-T-nail
    SaferNail
    SafeNails
    PosiNail
    FirmaNail
    StrongNail
    XtraNail
    XtremeNails
    TuffNail
    OMG WTF LMAO BBQ nail
    Schwarzenail
    Nailinator
    Securinail
    SecuraNail
    PermaFix
    PermaHold
    EQnail
    S-Nails
    T-Nails

    There are lots more too.

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  21. Patents? by trawg · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm interested to hear what the Slashdot crowd has to say about them patenting this. Six years is a long time to spend researching something. I'm sure they dumped a truck of money into it. (Without reading the article,) I'm guessing that it's probably relatively reverse engineer a nail and knock it off in a Chinese factory.

  22. Building Materials by photontaker · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I find the whole mostly-European "the best building material is stone or concrete" idea pretty funny. So far, I've owned two houses, both wood, and both old (the previous one was built in 1937, the one I currently live in was built in 1917). Both houses will last at least a hundred more years. Of course, it is true that if they were built of stone, they might last another 1000 years. It's hard to say, but regardless they're permanent structures. I have a feeling that this is much more about the types of home you grew up in rather than what the "best" building material actually is.

    The other thing is that stone and brick are definitely not fireproof. You still need beams to support the floors and those are usually wood. Here in Baltimore there are a ton of brick row houses and they occasionally have terrible fires. A small fire starts inside and burns the furniture/floors/books/whatever and that ends up catching the beams on fire and you end up with an empty brick shell. Of course, since they're row houses, the fire ends up spreading through the brick walls to the neighboring houses and you lose 3 or 4 homes at once. Even though they're made of brick. Fire is a problem for everyone.

  23. Quality wood construction by demi · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Wood is a great building material, or a poor one. As someone else pointed out, it satisfies many demands simultaneously. Market forces (cost and home type), environment (earthquakes, severe weather and other factors not existing in the UK, for example) and personal taste (ease of retrofit, etc.) all contribute to building material choice.

    One of the factors that's interesting is that the quality of wood used in construction differs quite a lot from the long-lasting timbers in the old wood-frame houses. I owned an over-hundred-year-old house which had lasted through two of our age's most severe earthquakes, with aplomb. In a termite-endemic area the naturally pest-resistant, tight-grained old-growth redwood timbers and planking (it had solid heartwood plank sheathing, not OSB or plywood) had no damage (the "modern" addition, built with current farmed-fir 2x4s, was not so fortunate). I have no doubt that, properly maintained, the house will last another hundred years or more (possibly with more than one generation of modern-construction additions).

    But that wood construction is not typical of current practice. By today's standards (it was built to no code but the good judgment of the original builder) it would be horribly material-hungry and overengineered. The pace of building in the U.S. demands cheaper materials and techniques--in fact, to do otherwise would be a criminal waste of limited natural resources; as to why low-quality timber is being used instead of more poured concrete--I bet it has much to do with consumer demand and tradition (that is, what contractors are used to working with and homeowners are used to buying) and little to do with actual economics.

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