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Why Vista Took So Long
twofish writes, "Following on from Joel Spolsky's blog on the Windows Vista shutdown menu, Moishe Lettvin, a former member of the Windows Vista team (now at Google) who spent a year working on the menu, gives an insight into the process, and some indication as to what the approximately 24 people who worked on the shutdown menu actually did. Joel has responded in typically forthright fashion." From the last posting: "Every piece of evidence I've heard from developers inside Microsoft supports my theory that the company has become completely tangled up in bureaucracy, layers of management, meetings ad infinitum, and overstaffing. The only way Microsoft has managed to hire so many people has been by lowering their hiring standards significantly. In the early nineties Microsoft looked at IBM, especially the bloated OS/2 team, as a case study of what not to do; somehow in the fifteen year period from 1991–2006 they became the bloated monster that takes five years to ship an incoherent upgrade to their flagship product."
So, Microsoft has finally adopted the Linux development model?
The owls are not what they seem
Because it had to move through the digestive tract and on through the large intestine.
...uninstalled Vista instead? Now that would be a simple way to solve the matter.
It was those 18 month long sound effects.
cumputer
I bet I know what you use your PC for.
See my journal for slashdot ID's by year. Mine created in 2005. http://slashdot.org/journal/289875/slashdot-ids-by-year
I just get the idea of a really long flatulent fart..
It runs perfectly fine on my 5 year old...
:P
You run Windows Vista on your kid?! Not even Linux users would do that!
Wait until you read about the development of the "About" menu item!
--- What?
Yes, clearly you should be running NetBSD on that kid instead.
I read the internet for the articles.
``Maybe that's why ID http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id_Software still only has 31 employees?''
No, that's because they used 5-bit ids in their database.
Please correct me if I got my facts wrong.
Are you one of those people who breaks out the AK-47 when someone spells Spider-Man without the hyphen?
MABASPLOOM!
Good God you have no sense of humor. Oooh oooh! Somebody insulted Linux!!!! Alert the authorities! Won't somebody PLEASE mod the GP???? Think of the children!
Incidentally, the Catholic Church also provided the model for Microsoft's DRM marketing:
It's not buggery, it's a feature!
Oooh oooh! Somebody insulted Linux!!!!
By insulting Linux, he has insulted a whole community of grossly unattractive buttseckshaving faggots, and this cannot be accepted.
They can't afford that Steve.
They're stuck with the other one
the more they over-think the plumbing the easier it is to stop up the pipe
Aren't they really the most darling creatures?
Not really. They're near-impossible to housetrain!
(A libertarian shat on my carpet once. Claimed the free market would sort it out. No it sodding didn't.)
Tedious Bloggy Stuff - hooray?
Does Slashdot have an option for submitting a rant and getting comments?
You're already using it. Go right ahead...
you had me at #!
Would you have a 30 page argument on the merits of sleep vs. hibernate...
Only if he's dead
Do you think you can do without reboot? in Windows?
Bwahahahahaha
When his defense asked, "Which computer has Jon Johansen trespassed upon?" the answer was: "His own."
Sounds like Parkinson's disease, really.
(Well, it doesn't, but someone had to make the obvious joke.)
I said I didn't know....
Well, when Microsoft crumbles and sinks under it's own weight and stupidity, I wonder if Ballmer will be playing a chair on the roof.
http://www.strangehorizons.com/2004/20040405/badge r.shtml
What is a buttseck, and why would you want to shave it?
It is of little use discussing with you because you have no fucking idea what you talking about. In no particular order:
* France: never was communist
* It seems you recognize only 5 democracies in the world, one of which is Chile
* You seem to think it was possible to do cool things in Nazi Germany or fascist Italy
* You lump Nazi Germany and fascist Italy together with Holland or Sweden, totally ignoring the huge differences in favor of superficial similarities
* You ignore that that Holland and Sweden are democracies
* If you believe France is communist, why not Sweden?
* You ignore that Nazi Germany had a huge bureaucracy
* You ignore that many democracies in Europe actually have cut bureaucracies over the last 3 decades. Not enough for some tastes, but nevertheless.
I am tired of this.
"When I first heard Daydream Nation it quite frankly scared the living shit out of me." -- Matthew Stearns
"4. The computers work on protein-folding during their idle time."
And I'm sure your systems would appreciate it if you would start cleaning up after yourself.
There are no loopholes. It's either legal or it's not.
* Actually, France is socialist/communist.
* You asked for examples, not a list of every country in the world
* We were talking about bureaucracy
* Holland and Sweden are Monarchies. We were talking about dictatorships and monarchies, remember?
* That's neither here nor there. They're also Monarchies
* France is a Republic. It has no Monarch to step in and fix any problems brought about by too much communism
* Income tax was only 5%, according to Wikipedia.
* Most, if not all, European democracies have much greater taxes than they did years ago (albeit often a smaller percentage of the GDP.)
All in all, you're batting zero for seven. Not a great score. That means I win, I believe.
"qwerks"
Is that some new kind of quirky keyboard?
Any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so.
And I thought that thing was complicated enough just with just the Log Out/Switch/Sleep/Shutdown options! No wonder it's taking so long!
Look, I don#t have enough time to correct the brainwashing they do in the schools you attended wherever this is, so I'll stick to the small sample of things you are wrong about I have started with:
* France: 1.) Wikipedia is not a source. 2.) You didn't even read that
* You pick 5 democracies from one third of the world's countries that britannica.com lists as democracies. Why shouldn't I question that?
* Yes, we were talking about bureaucracies, so 1) why do you bring up the ability to do cool things (can and has been done in bureaucratic countries)? 2) if you were right it would just proof that being unbureaucratic buys you nothing (I'd rather live in France than Nazi Germany)
* Holland and Sweden are monarchies just in name, in reality they are democratic countries and have nothing to do with Nazi Germany and fascist Italy
* You don't get it do you? The monarchs are figureheads, these are democracies; removing the monarchs would have NO effect except less sales for yellow press. You should maybe take up traveling
* You know, communism is an economic set of rules.
* We didn't talk about tax but bureaucracy. Of youres they had low tax since they simply stole what they needed from the Jews, communists, gays, anarchists, and half of Europe. You are a fucking idiot
* This is simply not true, most European nations have less taxes than ten years ago. They also have fewer state-owned businesses if any, and they have fewer state employees.
I end the discussion now.
"When I first heard Daydream Nation it quite frankly scared the living shit out of me." -- Matthew Stearns
2. I only listed two monarchies. Why not question that too? I gave a handful of examples in each category. If you have counter examples, list them, or shut up.
3. I fail to see your point.
4. So you admit they're monarchies
5. Ditto.
6. Sure, right.
7. Tax revenue is a perfectly good measure of bureaucracy. A huge government made up of many millions of bureaucrats requires far more than a small government. If you disagree, I suggest you come up with another, more reliable, objective metric. Oh, but you can't, so you just chose to pretend you don't understand the point.
8. No, my statement stands. I could understand your confusion if I'd not mentioned that taxes were almost certainly a lower percentage of GDP, but I made it specifically clear I was talking about specific, numeric, amounts. Almost every democratic country in Europe, if not all of them, have much higher taxes than, say, ten years ago, even disregarding inflation.
Of course you're "ending the discussion now", you know I'm right and you're wrong. Like I said, I'm the winner.
look at the Catholic church. It's been around for two thousand years. It's got just a few layers of management and at the top 183 cardinals report to the Pope
Pretty impressive when you consider that for all that time their ONLY product has been vapourware.
... and, of course, with a license that allows the user to redistribute freely the modified version so anyone can benefit from the improvements made.
The trademark on duke nukem forever has expired
it has changed to duke nukem never® according to british law
Hmmmm. I wonder.
dragonhawk@iname.microsoft.com
I do not like Microsoft. Remove them from my email address.
Ever try explaining the benefits of virtual desktops to a person who doesn't even think a tabbed browser is needed?
That's one of the previous Unix admins I worked with.
He was so clueless about his boxes that every week he'd say "I just wish I had windows servers instead."
If you don't know what AltaVista is (was), get off my lawn.