Supreme Court to Rule On 'Obvious' Patents
vocaro writes "The U.S. Supreme Court appears ready to rewrite the standard of what makes a patent 'obvious.' In a case before the court, brake manufacturer Teleflex is accusing a rival, KSR International, of violating its patent on a brake assembly. Large patent holders, including Microsoft, IBM, and Cisco, have submitted briefs supporting KSR, saying that true innovators can have a patent held up against them that reflects nothing more than an obvious combination of preexisting elements, then be told they have to leave the market or pay royalties. The court appears to be on KSR's side, saying that Teleflex's invention would have been obvious to an individual of reasonable skill. During oral arguments, Justice Breyer observed, 'It looks to me at about the same level as I have a sensor on my garage door at the lower hinge ... and the raccoons are eating it. So I think of the brainstorm of putting it on the upper hinge.'"
Here I believe "the test" refers to the one mentioned earlier: "accepted test for showing that the plaintiff [patenter?]'s invention would have been obvious to an individual of reasonable skill." I'm not quite sure what the article means by seeing the test "done away with":
I think the article is crap. Legal arguments are quite nuanced, and it seems like the writer has removed too much context to really understand what the Supreme Court Justices are saying in these quotes.
Hopefully, the court won't go so far as to create a new standard, just rule that the current one is not Constitutional. That would force Congress to write a new patent standard, which is who should be deciding the issue. Patents haven't become high viz enough to be a campaign issue, but I'd love to see an advisory panel of both industry and academic representatives formed to create a better system, and then have Congress vote on that.
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Well most of these people actually do think of the solution and actually create a working product, but then a Submarine Patent Troll comes out of the woodwork telling them that their actual invention violates their vague patent that they never bothered to bring to market or tell anyone else about.
What is a "submarine patent troll?" The 1995 Amendments to the patent laws pretty much ended the endless continuation practice that Lemelson, the original "submarine patent guy" used to his advantage.
BTW, patents are public record -- they are all publicly available on the USPTO website. Should a patent holder have to go out and notify any potential infringers before they begin developing a product?
That is the key problem here... Not that it is just obvious, but they are going after people who do come up with the idea themselves rather than those who have stolen the idea from them.
How do you propose we sort out the "true" infringers who are "stealing" an idea from those who came up with the idea independently? What test to you propose to determine what independent development is? How far "back" in the development stream do you need to go to show "independence?"
"That's not even wrong..." -- Wolfgang Pauli
Actually, it is a somewhat ambiguous sentence:
So you can interpret it to mean that the raccoons are eating the sensor. You can interpret it to mean that the raccoons are eating the lower hinge. Or you can even interpret that to mean that the raccoons are eating the garage door.
Since it is ambiguous, we can interpret it as we wish. I choose to interpret "it" as referring to the hinge. The sensor attracks them to the hinge. Move the sensor to the top hinge and the raccoons will have more trouble reaching the hinge.
Yes they both have extensive articles on Wiki. Although I may have taken the liberty to combine the two termns, but if you really don't know... Read the articles.
I know exactly what both are. Submarine trolls may have been an issue at one point (see my earlier post), but are really not an issue any more. Even the wikipedia article is clear on that. My point was basically that submarine patents aren't really an issue any more (if they ever really were), and certainly aren't a reason now to mess with the obviousness standard.
The point is that Patent system doesn't require you to actually make an invention, but rather have a description on what these invention does. These things can often be very vague and people have been known to patent the wheel on occasion shows a big flaw in the Patent system.
You do realize that the wheel patent was in Australia, right?
Yes, sometimes weird things do get through the patent office. But consider this -- there are many thousands of patents filed every week with the patent office. The patent office is a profit center -- they bring in far more money than they have a budget -- but congress siphons off most of the patent's office revenues for other projects, and leaves the patent office with far less staff and resources than they would have if congress left the patent office to support itself. Generally speaking, the patent office does a pretty good job with what it has.
As far as the requirements for a patent go, a patent must make an "enabling disclosure" -- in other words, one of "ordinary skill" in the relevant art must be able to take the patent and, without "undue experimentation," practice the patent. What is sufficient to provide an "enabling disclosure" is different from art area to art area, and different from invention to invention -- but it is not generally true that a vague and hand-wavy disclosure is sufficient to result in an issued patent. It may happen sometimes, but it doesn't seem to happen very often.
And when it does, such patents can be successfully challenged in court.
"That's not even wrong..." -- Wolfgang Pauli
What you said is misleading. Hurting the fewest number of people as possible isn't necessarily fairness. If ten people are using my ideas that I've patented (assuming the patents aren't "obvious" ones) in their products and I want compensation for this, then it's fair for me to get this compensation even if more than one person gets hurt, right?
A method of reliably transfering data using a protocol intended for a radio link should be patentable.
Using said radio link to transfer email should not; it should be tied to the original e-mail patent, or not at all.
A menuing system, like that on Apple's iPod should not be patentable; anyone designing a device with a screen the size of Apples has a significant chance to stumbling on the same design.
The problem as I see it is 'obviousness' is being determined by people who aren't actually familiar with the process of design. Instead they assume that if they haven't read about it in research material it must therefor not be obvious.
I wrote a program on the Commodore 64 which implemented Bresenham's line algorithm; I didn't even know about it, I did it based on what I learned in mathematics in grade 5. I don't think I'm brilliant, hence, I don't think software and algorithm should generally be patentable.
If it takes more time to fill out and file the patent application than it did to invent the new work the patent should be thrown out and never spoken of again.
Now if you'll excuse me I have some jiffy pop to microwave.