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U.S. Warns of Possible Cyber Biz Attack

mikesd81 writes "The AP has an article about a possible attack against the New York Stock Exchange via the internet by a radical muslim group. The notice was issued to the U.S. cybersecurity industry after officials saw a posting on a 'Jihadist Web site' calling for an attack on U.S. Internet-based stock market and banking sites in December, said Homeland Security Department spokesman Russ Knocke. Knocke has said: 'There is no information corroborating the threat and that the alert was issued as a routine matter and out of an abundance of caution.' There is no immediate threat to our homeland at this time. The attacks were to be conducted in December, 'until the infidel new year,' the site said, according to a U.S. government translation. It called for attackers to use viruses that can penetrate Internet sites and destroy data stored there. Spokespeople for the New York Stock Exchange and Nasdaq declined to comment on the cyber-terror threat."

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  1. Advertising attacks? by haluness · · Score: 3, Interesting

    How seriously can you take would be crackers who go around blabbing about an upcoming attack?

    Sheesh, and the media just have to take it up. They even contradict themselves in the same paragraph!

    1. Re:Advertising attacks? by russ1337 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Exactly,

      If they were really serious they'd submit an article about taking down the stock exchange, and include a link to the stock exchanges webserver to have it Slashdotted...

      It looks to me like mikesd81 is trying to take down excite.com. (why do you hate our freedom?)

    2. Re:Advertising attacks? by truthsearch · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The intent of terrorists is to incite terror in order to bring about change. Terror can be spread without any actual attack. Just the fact that the government and companies are responding to a threat, plus the spread of this information through media, increases fear. Since we are listening the terrorists are successful to some extent, even without actually committing the cyber-attack.

    3. Re:Advertising attacks? by shadow349 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      How seriously can you take would be crackers who go around blabbing about an upcoming attack?

      I think this quote from Sneakers sums it up nicely:

      Cosmo: Posit: People think a bank might be financially shaky.
      Martin Bishop: Consequence: People start to withdraw their money.
      Cosmo: Result: Pretty soon it is financially shaky.
      Martin Bishop: Conclusion: You can make banks fail.
      Cosmo: Bzzt. I've already done that. Maybe you've heard about a few? Think bigger.
      Martin Bishop: Stock market?
      Cosmo: Yes.
      Martin Bishop: Currency market?
      Cosmo: Yes.
      Martin Bishop: Commodities market?
      Cosmo: Yes.
      Martin Bishop: Small countries?

    4. Re:Advertising attacks? by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 3, Insightful

      When you get punched in the noce you have 2 choices, punch back and continue punching until the threat is GONE, or do nothing and accept the fact that it will continue to happen regardless of what action you take.

      Bullshit. The world is not black and white and neither are your options.

      Got punched in the face? Analyze the situation, figure out why you got punched in the face and take a-p-r-o-p-r-i-a-t-e action to reduce the chance of it happening again to an acceptable level. Maybe that means killing the guy punching you. Maybe it means using a different swing on the playground. Maybe it just means kicking the guy in the nads. Maybe it means calling your older brother over to intimidate the guy.

      Whatever the case, your simplistic analogy has no place in the real world.

      Make your choice, stick by it, and shut the hell up.

      Yeah, because changing your mind in response to new information is just not macho. Grow up pequito.

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      When information is power, privacy is freedom.
  2. Infidel New Year? by minotaurcomputing · · Score: 4, Funny

    I can't wait to watch Dick Clark's Infifel New Year's Rockin' Eve!

    -m

  3. Up next, nano-virus threat to create mutants! by khasim · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So, some joker on some website posts a piece about how people should release viruses to attack the stock exchange ... and our government issues an alert?

    What happens when the same joker posts a call for nano-viruses to be released into our water supply to create a generation of flesh eating mutants from our own children?!?

    Seriously, you deal with terrorism by NOT being afraid.

    You do NOT deal with it by hyping every single fantasy that they can post.

    1. Re:Up next, nano-virus threat to create mutants! by Thansal · · Score: 4, Funny
      What happens when the same joker posts a call for nano-viruses to be released into our water supply to create a generation of flesh eating mutants from our own children?!?


      I buy the movie rights!
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    2. Re:Up next, nano-virus threat to create mutants! by ScentCone · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Fortunately, this last set of elections proved that fear-mongering by itself isn't enough; or that it can last only so long.

      Heh! Not really. This last election was all about fear mongering. The dems gained seats in the legislature entirely by talking about how people should be afraid of the other party being in control. They certainly didn't win seats by actually spelling out contstructive, real-world things they'd actually, successfully do that would actually be helpful in any way. In fact, just yesterday they made it clear they were already going to break one of their loudest campaign promises (to implement all of the recommendations of the 9/11 Commission). Fear is exactly what it's all about, but they just played it differently ("the republicans want to starve your baby!" "the republicans want to make sure your social security money is wasted on dot-com investments!" "the republicans like to see our soldiers die!" "the republicans work for scary corporations that want to hurt you!"). Say you don't know exactly what I mean.

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  4. Yawn by davidwr · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So the banks will have a higher-than-normal amount of crack-attempts this month, and a proportionately-higher number of successful ones.

    ok, so if serious breakin attempts go up 10%, and there's a small number of successful breakins every month, that's *punchpunchpunchding* a very small number of additional successful breakins.

    The bottom line - your bank's web site may be a little slower to respond, and you may get a little more spam-email "from your bank" this month. Otherwise, business as usual.

    Happy shopping everyone.

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    1. Re:Yawn by MrAnnoyanceToYou · · Score: 3, Interesting

      If there's anything about America I have faith in, it's the ability of the financial system to perpetuate itself. The only thing that could possibly drag it down (short term) at this point would be Microsoft going rogue and having a back door into everything they used to rip the entire system apart...

      Fortunately /unfortunately enough, I don't think they're organizationally capable of this.

  5. Interesting.. by AnswerIs42 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The news articles I have seen, read and heard all said there was "No Credible Evidence" that this was a real threat.

    Save for the one slashdot finds and posts..

  6. Not gonna happen by 31415926535897 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    This is a very funny attack. All of the important network connections, those that allow the NYSE and other exchanges to operate, and connections between them and brokers are not on the Internet. There are connections from the NYSE to the Internet, but they are not needed for trading (it's for when the traders are bored, they can look at porn). This group would definitely need somebody working on the inside to do any real damage.

    The best these groups could do are take down the websites of discount brokerages (E*Trade, Ameritrade, etc.), but that won't have one bit of impact on the financial markets. Even if those websites go down, the brokerages will still have their direct connections to the exchanges, so if you can call your broker, you'll still get your trade through.

    I wish them the best of luck, because their attack is an exercise in futility.

  7. about time for another one by WolfMansDad · · Score: 4, Informative

    Warning, that is. Don't you know we're at war! Americans aren't that good at hate, so we have to be given something to fear. Keeps the govt in business.

  8. Re:blame the muslims by tritonman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I heard about this in a news report yesterday. They said "there is no evidence that this is a threat, but the government is reporting..." uh, no evidence? So wtf? Let's just try to scare some people around xmas so they can remember that we are here to protect them when nothing happens.

  9. Not a chance by Salvance · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's almost impossible that a bunch of radicalists with relatively sophomoric computer skills could infiltrate the NYSE or the Nasdaq in any substantial way. This is akin to high schoolers joking on forums and IRC that they are going to hack into the school's computers and change grades. Sure it happens, but not typically by a bunch of attention-seeking kids, but usually by some kid that is smart enough he didn't need to do it, just wanted to see "if he can".

    If these "hackers" really had a chance to impact the exchanges, it means they've found a vulnerability that the exchanges don't know about. Any smart (but malicious) hacker wouldn't tip their hand to such a find, they'd wait until D-day to launch their attack. Obviously the security folks at the exchanges should take the threat seriously and evaluate their systems for holes, but it would be bordering on the ridiculous for the rest of us to be worried.

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  11. One Whole Post by Siker · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's amazing how much you can do with a single post on a single website when people are afraid of the dark.

    Coming up next - Homeland Security issues alert after cousin's roommate's girlfriend heard from friend that man with turban was spotted in New York.

  12. That's Funny by eno2001 · · Score: 3, Informative

    I don't EVER remember living in the "homeland" until the Bushista regime seized power. I still like to call this America myself. Former land of the free and brave. Now home of the politically blind and cowardly.

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    -"...bad old ideas look confusingly fresh when they are packaged as technology" - Jaron Lanier (Digital Maoism on Edge.o