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Aging Baby Boomers Spawn New Tech Markets

PreacherTom writes "With the generation of Baby Boomers starting to enter their 60's, 75 million Americans will cross that line in the next 20 years. For the first time, though, this group will be composed of people who have grown up with technology. Enter a new industry: tech for the elderly that provides greater independence and better health, with an eye to users' privacy and dignity. Some examples (with pictures) would be the Pill Pets, stuffed animals with LCD's that tell their owners when to take their medicine, and Aware Car, which provides electronic warning systems to compensate for losses in reflexes." A national coalition, the Center for Aging Services Technologies, was established in 2003. Intel is doing some imaginative work in the area of assistive technology.

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  1. Pill Pet? by BoberFett · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Do people who are familiar with technology really need to hide their pill reminders in a stuffed animal? That sounds more patronizing than anything.

    1. Re:Pill Pet? by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes. They do. Clearly you have never seen some nice old lady all atwitter at one of those cute furry mouse-looking covers for a computer mouse. Or the little old lady driving down the road with nine trillion plushies in her back window. Or the women who come to play bingo at my place of employment and bring their lucky troll doll collection with them. Obviously it's not for everyone, which is why they're not going to stop selling the traditional pill reminders. What do you have against choice?

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    2. Re:Pill Pet? by mdpye · · Score: 2, Funny
      with an eye to users' privacy and dignity. Some examples (with pictures) would be the Pill Pets, stuffed animals with LCD's that tell their owners when to take their medicine
      The author obviously has a rather different definition of dignity to me...

    3. Re:Pill Pet? by kfg · · Score: 2, Informative

      Clearly you have never seen some nice old lady all atwitter at one of those cute furry mouse-looking covers for a computer mouse.

      I have, but she was born before the Wright Bros. flew under power.

      On the other hand I know 20 year olds who knit doofey covers for Kleenex boxes, but they don't expect to get their email on their Kleenex box either.

      In any case it's the 20 year old knitting Kleenex box covers who's going to grow old and go all atwitter over a teddy bear pill reminder. It isn't because she's old, it's because she's doofey. Patting me on the head because I'm old because she is doofey is condescending. I didn't put up with that crap as a child, I'm not going to put with it in my second childhood. Children are people too, they aren't just little adults, but they are people. Old people, likewise, aren't just big children even though some of them act like it.

      Me, I was born before an artificial satellite orbited. I grew up knowing how to knit, but I also grew up with Erector Sets and electronic experiment sets. The biggest section in a toy department was likely to be the Gilbert science stuff and they let us buy real chemicals by the pound right over the counter. Warm and fuzzy meant rockets with tailfins and chrome.

      In a lot of ways us baby boomers are far more comfortable with technology in its raw state than "you kids," because you mostly buy gadgets, we played around in the guts of stuff and invented the gadgets you play with. Hand us a teddy bear pill reminder and we're likely to rip its little brain out to see what we can do with it. I've got nothin' against teddy bears as teddy bears. I've got a couple. But I've also got a laptop; and I know how to use it to remind me of things.

      But yeah, choice is good. Anyone who wants to be all doofey about it can go for it, just don't be bringin' that shit near me, because it's my choice not to be condescended to.

      KFG

    4. Re:Pill Pet? by kfg · · Score: 3, Funny

      Sure, not all of them. Just the ones that act like it. If someone wants to act like a child, then they can be treated like a child, whereas if they want to act like an adult, I am more than happy to treat them like one - and in both cases, this is regardless of age.

      Thank you, I 'preciate that. You, however, are not typical.

      When you were 8 you went to school and took sports/violin/whatever because your teachers/parents wanted you to, not because you wanted to. You will find as you grow older that most people start treating you in that manner again. In controled care situations like nursing home they treat pretty much every resident that way. You will get a teddy bear pill reminder because that is what they want you to have.

      In the meantime a targeted rant now and again may be just the whack upside the head the people who will be marketing things to me and the people who will be caring for me need to remind that, like bad generals, they are thinking about the last generation when "solving" the problems of this generation, even though they may well be deluding themselves that they are thinking of this one.

      Are you really going to go on a tirade and start knocking over shelves if they put the pill reminder teddy bears on the shelf next to your normal pill reminder?

      I'm not a two year old. I don't go on tirades. I'm a curmudgeon. I post rants. In RL they come off as Billy Connelly type comedy routines and people laugh.

      KFG

    5. Re:Pill Pet? by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Funny
      In the meantime a targeted rant now and again may be just the whack upside the head the people who will be marketing things to me and the people who will be caring for me need to remind that, like bad generals, they are thinking about the last generation when "solving" the problems of this generation, even though they may well be deluding themselves that they are thinking of this one.

      Well, I don't think that those people are reading slashdot, and of those who are, they are probably going to ignore you and cite some study that says old people react well to stuffed animals.

      I'm not a two year old. I don't go on tirades.

      It doesn't stop Rush Limbaugh or Bill O'Reilly.

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      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    6. Re:Pill Pet? by kfg · · Score: 2, Funny

      . . .they are probably going to ignore you and cite some study that says old people react well to stuffed animals.

      Exactly! They may well find, however, that the old people they are studying are not the old people they are marketing too, which is what they purport to be about. The old people they are studying are people born before WWII, not the people born after, whose money it is they are after.

      They may well find their capital already gone when they figure out that we're looking to buy built in wireless for our GPS enabled, laser guided (with or without sharks) Aeron by Segway wheelchairs, not beeping teddy bears. The network in the nursing home better be secure as well, because if it ain't we're going to get in and have some fun.

      Does it run Linux? Well, it does now! And now when I tell the android candy stripper, er, striper "Yeah, right. Blow me," she's going to interpret it as a command. Hey, Jim, what do you think about clustering our wheelchairs?

      It's going to be a Brave New Nursing Home.

      KFG

  2. Lawn-Bot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Combine Roomba, audio microchips, and motion sensors and have an automated robot to yell to tell those damn kids to stay off the lawn.

  3. I want an aware car by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    And I'm only 36. I personally want- as a minimum- adaptive cruise control tied to a proximity alarm. I want infrared lasers shooting out 8 ways from my car, measuring distance- and a heads-up-display readout plus audible alarms.

    This tech has been avilable since the 1980s, but we've yet to see it in consumer-grade vehicles. Why is that? I'm willing to bet mandatory use of such tech would save at least 2000-3000 lives every year on the highways; after all, it's not the speeding but the tailgating that kills you.

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    1. Re:I want an aware car by jeffmeden · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The problem is those 3000 lives are YOUR fault, and thats the way they like it. If the car is as driver-centric as possible there is no chance for litigation claiming that a design flaw caused the car to operate the way it did. Addition of automation systems that have not seen EXTREMELY long trial periods are unacceptable risks for the motor companies. The sad state of litigation in America ensures that if a car company implemented a system that saved 2999 lives but was directly responsible for 1 death, it would be scrapped immediately and the producing company would be severely penalized.

    2. Re:I want an aware car by geekoid · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think Air bags prove you wrong.

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    3. Re:I want an aware car by geekoid · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "What, the part where they killed babies? Passenger air bags (the only real risk) took several years to gain acceptance."

      as would any new car technology.

      My point was that air bags killed people before they put the stickers on the car, but never a whisper of lawsuit.

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  4. Normally I'm all for helping the disabled... by jimstapleton · · Score: 2, Insightful
    However, if you need this...
    Aware Car, which provides electronic warning systems to compensate for losses in reflexes."

    You probably shouldn't be driving, unless the car can drive itself, in which case you aren't driving anyway...
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  5. Probably too expensive. by Kadin2048 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why is that? I'm willing to bet mandatory use of such tech would save at least 2000-3000 lives every year on the highways; after all, it's not the speeding but the tailgating that kills you.

    There are lots of technologies out there that would almost certainly save lives if implemented, but aren't because they'd be too expensive.

    In the scheme of things, human life has a measurable value, and it's not as high as some people would like to think.

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    1. Re:Probably too expensive. by zappepcs · · Score: 2, Informative

      Its not the value of human life that makes such tech prohibitively expensive, its the cost of litigation. Should such life saving technology fail, there are those that would just as soon litigate against the auto manufacturer than say "oh well, that is how life goes sometimes" because whenever possible, people will blame their bad driving on someone else.

      I've said it before, so here we go again, when all vehicles are able to drive themselves, and not before, will it be safe to have autopilot driven vehicles and vehicles that can compensate for the ever changing and moody unpredictability of human vehicle operators.

      Not only would IR lasers not be sufficient in many cases, but could lead to false positive identifications, and thus cause an accident in which poor aunt Rita died, and now automaker such n such is no longer in business. Where life and limb are at risk, it is (so far) way safer to trust the human brain than a computer, even if said computer was comparable to Cray computers. This is why NASA still sends humans into space. The technology is still not sufficient to replace the human brain and senses.

      That is not to say that things are not getting better, just not yet good enough to replace the human. The vehicle that will parallel park itself is doing so in a limited domain. The same sensors and computer would not be sufficient to handle highway driving, not even as an early warning system of sorts.

  6. Aware cars lead to less aware drivers by everphilski · · Score: 4, Informative

    Overly-aware cars lead to a false sense of security, which leads to drivers not paying attention to driving. Now, **some** amount of technology - rear-view cameras in the dash, for instance - are good as they augment your vision in areas where you cannot possibly see. Take for example the removal of stop signs Ejbay and Ipswitch. Drivers are forced to be more alert and people are safer because of it.

  7. Warning! You are approaching a farmer's market! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    had to be said

  8. How about augmented humans? by Kadin2048 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If we have implantable computers -- real brain/computer interfaces, not just electrodes wired to pleasure and pain centers -- I'd rather have one myself than give Fido one.

    I have a long history of Alzheimers in my family, and unless there are some good treatments or augmentative systems at that point, I plan on playing Russian Roulette until I lose at the first sign of dementia.

    But yeah, a dog that could buy me beer would be cool.

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    1. Re:How about augmented humans? by scheming+daemons · · Score: 2, Funny
      But yeah, a dog that could buy me beer would be cool.

      A lady walks into a bar with a bulldog on a leash. The bartender says, "hey! You can't bring that ugly, flea-ridden thing in here!"

      The lady says, "How dare you talk about my dog that way!"

      The bartender says, "I was talking to the dog!"

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    2. Re:How about augmented humans? by Eternauta3k · · Score: 3, Funny
      I plan on playing Russian Roulette until I lose at the first sign of dementia.
      *picks up revolver*
      *pauses*
      What was I suposed to use this for?
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  9. What did they do before technology? by mcmonkey · · Score: 3, Funny
    For the first time, though, this group will be composed of people who have grown up with technology.

    Because of course, technology is a recent discovery. Fire was only discovered is the early 1920s, and as recently as the 1950s most Americans lived in caves and ate dirt.

    Oh, and the world was black and white back then, too. When everything got colorized, old pictures and movies stayed the same, because they were color pictures of the black and white world.

  10. Aware-Aware Car by zumbojo · · Score: 3, Funny

    So the elderly will have Aware Car, and the rest of us will need Aware-Aware Car to locate and avoid the masses of crazy old drivers in Aware Cars careening all over the highways.

    Dark times lay ahead pedestrians everywhere.

    1. Re:Aware-Aware Car by scheming+daemons · · Score: 2, Funny
      My question....

      ...will the "Aware Car" be aware that the left turn signal has been blinking for the past 60 miles?

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  11. Reminds me of a joke.... by scheming+daemons · · Score: 2, Funny
    ....

    Agnes heard on the radio a traffic report about a car going the wrong way down highway 69 causing accidents left and right. Alarmed because that is the route her husband Howard takes every morning, she calls him on the cell phone to warn him.

    "Howard! Please be careful, honey. The radio is reporting that some maniac is driving the wrong way down route 69!"

    To which an exasperated Howard replies, "One maniac!?? There's dozens of them!"

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  12. Re:Assisted driving? by OldeTimeGeek · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yeah, you get in the way of all of us Michael Schumacher wannabe, lane-changing, bumper-following, cellphone-using, donut-eating, coffee-drinking, radio station-changing, makeup-applying, hair-combing, computer-using drivers who are *far* more aware of what's going around us than you are.

  13. This season's hot Christmas gift... by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 3, Funny

    Medicate Me Elmo!

  14. Will "unchanging" become a marketing advantage? by phamlen · · Score: 2, Insightful

    As the boomers age, their ability to learn and remember new things will diminish (natural part of aging.) As a consequence, I think they're going to want a computer platform which is stable and unchanging; they aren't going to want the "latest and greatest" every couple of years. Plus, as reflexes get slower, people aren't going to need the latest superfast computer in order to play games. A real market for stability in the consumer marketplace will open up...

    I predict there will be a company that makes its mark in building such a platform for the elderly that has a lifetime of 10-15 years rather than needing to be upgraded every few years. It will probably support email, web browsing, a basic platform for games (including support for those older games that the boomers grew up with and still want to play.) and some kind of remote monitoring to fix things if the user can't. Their business model will probably be built on maintenance fees ("buy this computer, technical support and maintenance is just $20 a month, and you'll never need to relearn the programs.")

    My other prediction: Someone will start developing software games that adapt their speed to people's reflexes - as people get older, their reflexes will slow down but they'll still want to play the game. Imagine Tetris but with some intelligence to adjust to slower reflexes so that the game is still fun for people who have lost their twitchy trigger finger reflexes.

  15. Technology use has nothing to do with age by hellfire · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Studies have been done that show that people are just as likely to be a technogeek or a technophone regardless of age. Maybe the baby boomers have grown up with more electronic technology than previous, but that doesn't mean that markets will really "open up."

    There's also a stereotype that the older generation tends to be less computer savvy just because they didn't grow up with it. That's also not true, because I had 70 year old professors in college and relatives of my grandmother who are using computers like they were script kiddies and college software pirates. My Grandmother is a luddite, but that's part of her upbringing. She's been a luddite since she was 25, according to her husband.

    It's true that if you grew up with computerized technology, you are more likely to understand something else you haven't seen before, but that's true with anything. There's a marketing myth that expands that which says that if you grew up with a specific technology, you are more likely to buy it. Rubbish. I know plenty of people who don't have cable and who don't own their own computer. These people are in their 20s and 30s!! They work with computers, because in business you almost always have to. But that doesn't mean people like it or have the desire to take it home.

    My father is very intelligent and savvy, but has no desire to learn accounting software so he never uses a computer. My mother is much less savvy, having problems dealing with updates, error messages, and quirky technical problems, but finds things like shopping online very convenient and enjoys email. My father had much more computer exposure before my mother bought their current home computer, she's the one who's urging him to use it more. My parents both belong to that boomer generation.

    My point is that age has nothing to do with it, and I suspect these companies that when target an age group just because they think they might be more technically savvy, they'll be in for a rude awakening as they fall flat on their face.

    They'll also be competing for money of an age group (60+) which is historically known to be full of tightwads. Not because of personality, but because they are retired or near retirement and on a fixed income!! Unless the technology is a cheap robot which can do chores for the elderly and infirm, I don't see anyone making boku bucks selling "cool technogadgets" to seniors of any group.

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  16. The aware car is easy by Aging_Newbie · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just a switch on the floor of the passenger side and a beeper operable by said switch. Place spouse in passenger seat and drive somewhat faster than s/he would like. Voila!

  17. Japanese elderly tech: electronic teapot by XNormal · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The regularity of the Japanese tea ritual has been used to create a monitor for the elderly: a water boiler for making tea which sends a distress call if its user does not use at the expected time.

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