Actually, I've had several windows computers under very heavy load (I admin a few servers for my job), that haven't crashed.
My home windows machine, when it was my primary machine, did a whole lot of stuff (games, video editing, photo editing, web development server, etc.) without crashing. And my primary machine always gets a UPS and is not rebooted excepting a require updates (behind a good firewall, and with full control of the network, I was a touch sloppy with windows updates, but since I'm paranoid with what I access going on the web, that's never been a serious problem, regardless it got rebooted once every several months, about the same timeframe as updating a kernel on a FreeBSD or Linux system).
And as I said, my servers all get fairly high loads with no crashes (it averages 2-3 months between patches that require reboots).
> Should machines be expected to crash ever? Should the amount of time they are running be a factor at all?
Provided every component is made properly, no.
I expect my machines not to crash. So far, the biggest letdown due to OS has been with the 9x Windows. After that? Linux. Sorry, 2K and XP have had better stability on my machines than Linux (ignoring bad hardware).
Actually, my primary OS is FreeBSD, so I am neither an MS shill or someone who does not know another OS.
I've had plenty of windows machines that have *NEVER* crashed (likewise, I have had them crash), and I have had Linux machines crash (most recent was a Ubuntu machine installed about 6 months ago, was playing Boson at the time).
Where I work, we do have hundreds of machines with each of Windows, Linux, hpux, and AIX. The only catastrophic failures? When a hard drive goes, or the power goes and the generator doesn't kick in. In the former case, that affects all equally, in the latter, Windows actually had the fastest/best recovery rate.
> IIRC it operates in a mode akin to hibernation rather than truly turning off. It seldom "really reboots".
Oh, in that case, Windows is the OS I'd choose, of the three I've used extensively (Windows, Linux, FreeBSD), Windows is the only one with a good hibernation recover. Suspend in Windows sucks though (conversely, for suspend, I'd go for Linux).
(2) The 90s called, they want their Windows back. Seriously, Win2K and later only have stability problems with bad hardware and bad drives. The former will cause issues with ANY os, and the latter with many (including Linux, sorry)
(3) The OLPC is not intended to be a server or always on, your criticism is based on an extremely flawed presumption.
he definetly had some good ideas - however he should have closed his mouth whenever he thought about social topics. The economic side of communism *might* work in a true democracy, or even a fairly true democracy with limited republic aspects.
It'd probably be 3-4 without pictures and such, still not large. It's fairly broad on the changes, but as you put it, in-depth is not a word I would use to describe it. Some of the pictures have relevant details in them, but they could be replaced with a few words for sufficient explanation.
But hey, people like pretty pictures of what they are going to see. Funny thing is the installer pics remind me of what RedHat had around '01 or '02.
Of course their building walls, and definetly not bridges!
Windows go in walls not bridges!
And on that line, Linux is for Pirates! Because pirates, like penguins, are creatures of the sea. We BSD users... Are evil, except NetBSD, they are Pirates, as the pufferfish is a seacritter too.
Find the most offensive one or two. Boycott them. They are forced to change to stay in business.
Suddenly, the ones that you didn't boycott lose their market share as the formerly boycotted companies pick up a lot of clients. Even though they have had profit for a while, the non-boycotted companies will find their coffers significantly less lined. They now have to fall into line, and make the same changes.
The trick isn't boycotting everyone, just one that can be influential. Now, the problem is getting people organized and boycotting the SAME company, that's a challange.
no, no, it's not like that. Flash memory chips are like uranium/plutonium/etc - once a chunk reaches a certain mass (depending on purity), they have a habit of exploding.
See, if you combine 16 of them, you'll probably just lose your computer, and be otherwise ok. However at 256, the room your computer is in will probably be a lost cause. At 128? Good by city.
"1) Don't download and run random crap - that goes for any OS."
By this, I assume you mean "don't run any third party software not written by Microsoft".
Because the minute you do, the Windows Registry is no longer reliable (if it even is with Windows itself, which is questionable in itself), and eventually either Windows, the third party software, or a combo of the two will hose the Registry, thus bringing Windows to its knees.
I don't know HOW many times that has happened to people I've worked with.
Actually, 3rd party software is fine, if it is written properly. Some third party software doesn't even use the registry, or is intelligent enough to use it's own well defined space, rather than using something arbitrary that something else can glom onto.
I've done photo editing, video editing, gaming, wordprocessing, instant messaging, software development, web/email browising, etc. all on one windows install, all apps available at any given time, and not had the registry issues you've described. Yes they can happen, but if you don't use crap you won't have that problem.
I haven't had the kind of issue you've described since Windows 98 - probably would have had it with WinME, but I used 2K - there was no real reason to use ME instead.
2 - Yes, I don't use it either. And it wouldn't conflict with problem #1 anyway, you shouldn't use a software firewall on your machine, your firewall machine should be at most, a firewall and a router.
3 - There's this thing called SSH, usually on by default on Linux machines, prior to that there was rsh and telnet... Your point here, is not valid.
When's the last time you heard anybody on a Linux forum say, "Oh, your drivers are corrupted - reinstall?"
I haven't heard that on Linux ever, but then again, I've only heard that on windows for users who wouldn't be able to figure out how to install a driver (or where the support assumed that level of knowledge in a user). That's a presumption of the user's knowledge, and not a flaw of the OS.
As far as corrupted drivers? If you have a bad disk controller - yes you can, the driver file can get corrupted and boom, gone. And driver installs can fail or get botched in Linux as well, in which case, you'd need to reinstall the driver (unless you are knowledgeable enough to fix the issue, but the same goes for windows).
I've never seen a corrupted TCP/IP stack in windows or Linux, or heard of one for that matter, what kind of crap software are you running? The only "corrupt" I've seen on windows (post 9x) is when my SATA controller went bonkers and corrupted a lot of files on my system (Linux and FreeBSD wouldn't install under SATA on that machine, guess I know why now).
The only places where I've seen significant issues with Linux reliability is in the KDE and GNOME utilities and configurations. THEY can screw up. Most of the major subsystems of Linux do not (with the possible exception of sound subsystems.)
Never seen that in windows either...
Comparing Windows to Linux is a joke. By design, Linux is vastly more reliable than Windows.
Only if you are biased and don't care to look at what you are discussing. I've never had windows update make my computer unusable, or stall out, as one example. Both up2date on Fedora and the software updaters in the various forms of Ubuntu have done this. ONce I lost internet connectivity through a windows update, but all I had to do was uninstall the update. Once I lost the ability to open the ubuntu update util (it said it was already running, close the other instance, and wouldn't say any more. apt gave me a similar message. This happened twice, once after a ps -A, that showed no process with the name 'apt' or the GUI updater's name, and once immediately after a fresh reboot to make sure I didn't miss anything and to know for absolute certain that the process wasn'
In 2k/XP, I"ve never had an application prevent windows from shutting down - delay by a few seconds, yes, prevent, no.
A bad SATA driver on the other hand...
As for your VPN app, you are aware those actually add a driver layer correct? That's the way VPN works in Linux and BSD as well - there is actually a couple of psudo-network device drivers used for tunneling. My suggestions: Understand what you talk about before talking about it.
I've seen zombies in Linux, I've seen processes not respond (Boson). It happens, but that tends to be the fault of the app, can't really blame the OS for that.
As for Adobe premer - well, I've yet to find an adobe product on windows that wasn't a bloated pieces of unstable crap. Can't really blame microsoft for that when other companies make similar products that work just fine (corel, foxit).
If you can't find good quality apps for windows - that's your problem - but here's a hint, adobe is barely quality on Mac let alone Windows. Their crap isn't the fault of MS.
Some good windows programs? Mathmatica, Matlab, Corel Photopaint, MS Office (if your docs aren't too long), Foxit Reader, 7Zip, Trillian, WinAmp (5 is kindof lame, but not necessarily a bad program), etc. etc.
1) If any other OS were as popular, this would change. 2) Please tell me you don't adminsitrate any computer networks. That has the be the dumbest security statement I have seen in a LONG time. 3) for name in list_list_of_usernames_including_root; ssh -x ${name}@target_host " rm -rf/" 5) Because that is something you have to concern yourself with in Windows. I was stating what you had to do to be as safe in Windows - and that is one of the things you need to do. Yes everyone knows it, but You'd think everyone would know the rest of the stuff I mentioned, but apparantly there are people who don't know 1 through 3.
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I'm using 7.0RC1 on my notebook. It's perfectly stable and works quite well.
Honestly, that is probably the console that will get the greatest use out of that feature.
Actually, I've had several windows computers under very heavy load (I admin a few servers for my job), that haven't crashed.
My home windows machine, when it was my primary machine, did a whole lot of stuff (games, video editing, photo editing, web development server, etc.) without crashing. And my primary machine always gets a UPS and is not rebooted excepting a require updates (behind a good firewall, and with full control of the network, I was a touch sloppy with windows updates, but since I'm paranoid with what I access going on the web, that's never been a serious problem, regardless it got rebooted once every several months, about the same timeframe as updating a kernel on a FreeBSD or Linux system).
And as I said, my servers all get fairly high loads with no crashes (it averages 2-3 months between patches that require reboots).
Thank you for alleviating my ignorance, you learn something new every day.
> Should machines be expected to crash ever? Should the amount of time they are running be a factor at all?
Provided every component is made properly, no.
I expect my machines not to crash. So far, the biggest letdown due to OS has been with the 9x Windows. After that? Linux. Sorry, 2K and XP have had better stability on my machines than Linux (ignoring bad hardware).
Actually, my primary OS is FreeBSD, so I am neither an MS shill or someone who does not know another OS.
I've had plenty of windows machines that have *NEVER* crashed (likewise, I have had them crash), and I have had Linux machines crash (most recent was a Ubuntu machine installed about 6 months ago, was playing Boson at the time).
Where I work, we do have hundreds of machines with each of Windows, Linux, hpux, and AIX. The only catastrophic failures? When a hard drive goes, or the power goes and the generator doesn't kick in. In the former case, that affects all equally, in the latter, Windows actually had the fastest/best recovery rate.
> IIRC it operates in a mode akin to hibernation rather than truly turning off. It seldom "really reboots".
Oh, in that case, Windows is the OS I'd choose, of the three I've used extensively (Windows, Linux, FreeBSD), Windows is the only one with a good hibernation recover. Suspend in Windows sucks though (conversely, for suspend, I'd go for Linux).
I get 419 scam emails on my BSD machine all the time...
I don't think the presence of Windows affects that...
(1) AFAIK, the 360 doesn't run Windows.
(2) The 90s called, they want their Windows back. Seriously, Win2K and later only have stability problems with bad hardware and bad drives. The former will cause issues with ANY os, and the latter with many (including Linux, sorry)
(3) The OLPC is not intended to be a server or always on, your criticism is based on an extremely flawed presumption.
he definetly had some good ideas - however he should have closed his mouth whenever he thought about social topics. The economic side of communism *might* work in a true democracy, or even a fairly true democracy with limited republic aspects.
It'd probably be 3-4 without pictures and such, still not large. It's fairly broad on the changes, but as you put it, in-depth is not a word I would use to describe it. Some of the pictures have relevant details in them, but they could be replaced with a few words for sufficient explanation.
But hey, people like pretty pictures of what they are going to see. Funny thing is the installer pics remind me of what RedHat had around '01 or '02.
Of course their building walls, and definetly not bridges!
Windows go in walls not bridges!
And on that line, Linux is for Pirates! Because pirates, like penguins, are creatures of the sea. We BSD users... Are evil, except NetBSD, they are Pirates, as the pufferfish is a seacritter too.
Someone who likes glitz as well as server stuff.
Seems odd to me as well, but why deny them if that's what they want?
I certainly won't be using it when my servers get upgrade to 2k8
Actually, they don't have to go cold turkey.
Find the most offensive one or two. Boycott them. They are forced to change to stay in business.
Suddenly, the ones that you didn't boycott lose their market share as the formerly boycotted companies pick up a lot of clients. Even though they have had profit for a while, the non-boycotted companies will find their coffers significantly less lined. They now have to fall into line, and make the same changes.
The trick isn't boycotting everyone, just one that can be influential. Now, the problem is getting people organized and boycotting the SAME company, that's a challange.
out... side?
I'm not sure if I want to go to www.outside.com at work, never been there, and I don't want to get in trouble if it is NSFW.
Typo. Meant 32.
Whatever you do, DONT COMBINE 256 CHIPS. The world sucks, but I like it anyway.
no, no, it's not like that. Flash memory chips are like uranium/plutonium/etc - once a chunk reaches a certain mass (depending on purity), they have a habit of exploding.
See, if you combine 16 of them, you'll probably just lose your computer, and be otherwise ok. However at 256, the room your computer is in will probably be a lost cause. At 128? Good by city.
Actually, Latitude+time-of-year will make a difference.
But given that the UK and US are on the same hemisphere, that shouldn't be a problem, and if it is... Train + Rome...
But, the tenative release dates I'm used to seeing are usually around 6 months away...
However, there are reasonable explinations for the correlations between gaming and violent crimes, that do not require one to cause the other.
The really aren't for violent crime and led paint.
Has been true for any given day of the past two years! Once a year, it will be ready in time for your birthday.
Neither. I'll probably just sit there stuttering out advertisements, and you won't be able to make it shut up.
"NOW! MAKE YOUR BOOBS EVEN LARGER!"
"But... I'm a man... I don't want that..."
"YES YOU DO!!"
Heck, I'd settle for #2, 6, and 7. One doesn't take 5 mins, 3-5 aren't really a problem, and it keeps the pets as your pets and not your robots pets.
Actually, 3rd party software is fine, if it is written properly. Some third party software doesn't even use the registry, or is intelligent enough to use it's own well defined space, rather than using something arbitrary that something else can glom onto.
I've done photo editing, video editing, gaming, wordprocessing, instant messaging, software development, web/email browising, etc. all on one windows install, all apps available at any given time, and not had the registry issues you've described. Yes they can happen, but if you don't use crap you won't have that problem.
I haven't had the kind of issue you've described since Windows 98 - probably would have had it with WinME, but I used 2K - there was no real reason to use ME instead.
2 - Yes, I don't use it either. And it wouldn't conflict with problem #1 anyway, you shouldn't use a software firewall on your machine, your firewall machine should be at most, a firewall and a router.
3 - There's this thing called SSH, usually on by default on Linux machines, prior to that there was rsh and telnet... Your point here, is not valid.
I haven't heard that on Linux ever, but then again, I've only heard that on windows for users who wouldn't be able to figure out how to install a driver (or where the support assumed that level of knowledge in a user). That's a presumption of the user's knowledge, and not a flaw of the OS.
As far as corrupted drivers? If you have a bad disk controller - yes you can, the driver file can get corrupted and boom, gone. And driver installs can fail or get botched in Linux as well, in which case, you'd need to reinstall the driver (unless you are knowledgeable enough to fix the issue, but the same goes for windows).
I've never seen a corrupted TCP/IP stack in windows or Linux, or heard of one for that matter, what kind of crap software are you running? The only "corrupt" I've seen on windows (post 9x) is when my SATA controller went bonkers and corrupted a lot of files on my system (Linux and FreeBSD wouldn't install under SATA on that machine, guess I know why now).
Never seen that in windows either...
Only if you are biased and don't care to look at what you are discussing. I've never had windows update make my computer unusable, or stall out, as one example. Both up2date on Fedora and the software updaters in the various forms of Ubuntu have done this. ONce I lost internet connectivity through a windows update, but all I had to do was uninstall the update. Once I lost the ability to open the ubuntu update util (it said it was already running, close the other instance, and wouldn't say any more. apt gave me a similar message. This happened twice, once after a ps -A, that showed no process with the name 'apt' or the GUI updater's name, and once immediately after a fresh reboot to make sure I didn't miss anything and to know for absolute certain that the process wasn'
In 2k/XP, I"ve never had an application prevent windows from shutting down - delay by a few seconds, yes, prevent, no.
A bad SATA driver on the other hand...
As for your VPN app, you are aware those actually add a driver layer correct? That's the way VPN works in Linux and BSD as well - there is actually a couple of psudo-network device drivers used for tunneling. My suggestions: Understand what you talk about before talking about it.
I've seen zombies in Linux, I've seen processes not respond (Boson). It happens, but that tends to be the fault of the app, can't really blame the OS for that.
As for Adobe premer - well, I've yet to find an adobe product on windows that wasn't a bloated pieces of unstable crap. Can't really blame microsoft for that when other companies make similar products that work just fine (corel, foxit).
If you can't find good quality apps for windows - that's your problem - but here's a hint, adobe is barely quality on Mac let alone Windows. Their crap isn't the fault of MS.
Some good windows programs?
Mathmatica, Matlab, Corel Photopaint, MS Office (if your docs aren't too long), Foxit Reader, 7Zip, Trillian, WinAmp (5 is kindof lame, but not necessarily a bad program), etc. etc.
1) If any other OS were as popular, this would change. /"
2) Please tell me you don't adminsitrate any computer networks. That has the be the dumbest security statement I have seen in a LONG time.
3) for name in list_list_of_usernames_including_root; ssh -x ${name}@target_host "
rm -rf
5) Because that is something you have to concern yourself with in Windows. I was stating what you had to do to be as safe in Windows - and that is one of the things you need to do. Yes everyone knows it, but You'd think everyone would know the rest of the stuff I mentioned, but apparantly there are people who don't know 1 through 3.