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Vista an Uneasy Sleeper

Posted by CmdrTaco on from the just-like-most-3-year-olds dept.

Emmy King writes "
One thing we just can't wrap our mind about is the terrible, broken, and completely pitiful support for waking Vista up from a Deep Sleep or hibernation.
Anytime you attempt to wake Vista up from Hibernation or "Deep Sleep" (S3-induced sleep mode), it dies. It's either a BSOD, or a driver error, or a broken network, no DWM, lack of sound... the list goes on, and on. So much for an operating system to "power" the future! (No pun intended!) That's with properly-signed drivers and no buggy software on multiple PCs..."

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  1. No buggy software? by BadEvilYoda · · Score: 0, Troll

    Microsoft, meet PC. PC, meet buggy software. It's called "Vista", "Office", "Windows"...

  2. Re:MSN Ramps Up the Linux FUD by kryten_nl · · Score: 0, Troll

    No surprise to see that around the time Linux releases, MSN will turn up the FUD campaign as hard as they can. When Linus badmouths Vista, it's evil, evil FUD from the communists, but when MSN does it, it's simply informing their Vista using readers of the deficiencies of Linux. And they'll link to blogs or any other source of unknown reputation to smear Linux as best as they could. Sad. There, fixed your typos for you ....

    (Slashdot -> MSN; Vista -> Linux; Microsoft -> Linus; Linux -> Vista; Borg -> Communists)
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  3. Re:Slashdot Ramps Up the Vista FUD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    When did microsoft send out the memo that telling the truth about a Vista product is now to be called FUD?

    Dammit! I miss all the good memos!

  4. yeah, and whose fault is that? by idlake · · Score: 0, Troll

    So the problem can't lie entirely with Microsoft (though they are partly to blame for the extremely lax and often Windows-centric ACPI practices).

    That is precisely why it is Microsoft's fault: instead of having manufacturers code against a spec and a detailed test suite, they code and test against Windows. And Microsoft usually likes that. If they didn't like it, they'd create a public test suite and simplify the specs to the point where they can actually be implemented easily.

  5. No Buggy Software by MBHkewl · · Score: 0, Troll

    "That's with properly-signed drivers and no buggy software on multiple PCs..."

    And by "no buggy software" you mean, Linux?

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  6. Why do they Lie to Us? by twitter · · Score: 0, Troll

    One thing we just can't wrap our mind about is the terrible, broken, and completely pitiful support for waking Vista up from a Deep Sleep or hibernation

    The only problem I have is Microsoft's continued claim of working power management. I don't know any Windows users who are able to use power management. I've never seen someone open a Windows laptop and just use it, they always have to boot. Even if the OS itself comes up, they say an application like Word screws up what they were doing and the system just works better with frequent reboots. Corporate users, of course, would love to have the power savings for their thousands of desktops and the labor savings of not having to wait for a boot but have to tell their employees to boot every day instead. Given this history it would have been nothing short of a miracle if Vista worked.

    The extreme irony here is that M$ has all the advantages but does not work as well as alternatives. They helped make both APM and ACPI. They also enjoy a tremendous hardware advantage due to cross licensing and vendor extortion. Both "standards" are typical M$ monstrosities, being "extensible" and having frequent "upgrades" which make implementation complex. The ACPI specs are said to be 500 pages long. You would think all of the inside information and help they have would overcome that for them but it's not so. Free software kicks their ass all over the place. These days, I never have a problem with APM on any laptop that supports it. ACPI has a good chance of working too. Oh yeah, everything else under Linux works once the laptop wakes up: programs, video, sound etc. The best way to show someone that there is nothing wrong with their laptop is to boot a recent live CD. Yes, it wakes up that way too. If it does not it's either broken on non standards conforming, which are two sides of the same coin.

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  7. Re:My Experience is Completely the Opposite by adaminnj · · Score: 0, Troll

    I hate to be a mactard but you have never used anything other than windows.

    try a mac.

    I guess if you are upgrading from win 95 (with stolen reg #) to Vista with a hacked reg server, you have never woken up.

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  8. Re:Blame ACPI, not Vista by ivan256 · · Score: 1, Troll

    The reason ACPI is so ridiculously convoluted for the simple tasks it needs to perform is that it was developed by Microsoft in order to easily map to Microsoft Windows registry constructs.

    If they can't figure out how to make their own technology work correctly, I don't see how it can possibly be anybody's fault but theirs.

  9. It must be the drivers by towsonu2003 · · Score: 0, Troll
    Any time you attempt to wake Vista up from Hibernation or "Deep Sleep" (S3-induced sleep mode), it dies. It's either a BSOD, or a driver error, or a broken network, no DWM, lack of sound... the list goes on, and on.
    So it's like Linux now ;)