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Many New Species Found Under Antarctica

gt_mattex writes to tell us The Globe and Mail is reporting that quite a few new species have been found in the ocean beneath the Antarctic ice. From the article: "It is too early to say exactly how many new species were discovered in the Antarctic, many in the Weddell Sea, where ice crushed the ship of Antarctic explorer Ernest Shackleton in 1915. The scientists saw more strange creatures than familiar ones, says Ron O'Dor, an expert in octopuses and squid from Halifax's Dalhousie University and the chief scientist in charge of producing the first marine life census of the planet by 2010."

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  1. Amazing by Sneakernets · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's been millenia and we still don't know all the life on our planet. I always look forward to articles like this, they really tell us how little we do know.

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    1. Re:Amazing by LiquidMind · · Score: 5, Interesting

      i've been thinking about that too, especially about the life that resides at the bottom of our oceans....
      how interesting (and suicidal, but bear with me) would it be to somehow drain all the oceans of water just to see what's left over...

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    2. Re:Amazing by StikyPad · · Score: 5, Funny

      Drain the oceans?!? That's ridiculous -- where would they go??? I guess you could find something that sucks really hard, like Digg, put a straw in it, and plop it on the beach.

      But it would make much more sense to rapidly evaporate all of them, perhaps with a large scale hairdryer task force and/or a few strategically placed nukes.

  2. Anyone else worried after reading this? by chabotc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "A school of fish the size of Manhattan off the New Jersey coast. About 20 million herring were travelling together."

    That soon we'll find ways to make ocean life go extinct in those parts which so far relativly are protected from our interferance.. With our normal area's of fishing drying up quickly, how long will it take before we go and do our thing there too ... *sigh*

    1. Re:Anyone else worried after reading this? by nog_lorp · · Score: 5, Funny

      Don't you worry! We will have those scary new species gone in no time!

  3. ANCIENTS by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 5, Funny

    IT's the ANCIENT outpost

  4. Needs pictures by Inverted+Intellect · · Score: 4, Funny

    The article describes some pretty odd creatures.

    I mean, without a picture of that centimeter-in-diameter protozoan, how the hell am I supposed to imagine how it looks like, much less the more important facets of such a discovery... such as how does it taste?

  5. Re:Could they be harmful? by MyLongNickName · · Score: 4, Funny

    Other then that

    Seek also the difference between "then" and "than" ;)

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  6. My god -- it's full of geeks by anagama · · Score: 5, Funny
    In the dark ocean beneath the Antarctic ice, researchers have found scores of species they've never seen before, including strange jellyfish and other gelatinous organisms that thrive without light

    My god -- it's full of geeks.
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  7. that's a bizarre reaction by circletimessquare · · Score: 3, Insightful

    that little nugget of news was reason to find cheer, i think

    a colossal school of herring? off new jersey? isn't that good news?

    why the despondent reaction to that news item? there are certainly tons of news items to find depressing reactions to about ocean life and man's hungry stomach... but that particular nugget of news is reason to cheer, don't you think?

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  8. New...? by djupedal · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As in just fell out of the tree of evolution?

    ...bah....

    Those critter are most likely checking out the mini-subs and shaking their heads and thinking "Oh, look! A new species!"

  9. what, the yeti lobster didn't do it for you? by circletimessquare · · Score: 4, Informative

    but, anyways, here you go, lotsa pictures

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  10. i'm with you by circletimessquare · · Score: 4, Interesting

    take the common wood louse, that you can find under any rock in any forest

    now, blow it up a thousand fold in size

    there you go, running around the ocean floor

    amazing indeed

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    1. Re:i'm with you by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I knew I'd see some of these. For any slashdotters who want to see a FASCINATING and beautifully produced BBC documentary on this, I recommend episode 2 "The Deep" from their award-winning "The Blue Planet" series. Here's a direct .torrent link.

      BBC The Blue Planet: The Deep .torrent

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  11. Re:Could they be harmful? by jd · · Score: 5, Funny

    Everything in Australia is deadly. The spiders are deadly, the snakes are deadly, the crocodiles are deadly, the plants are deadly, the driving in Sydney is definitely deadly, the TV commercials are lethal... I never did find out what happened to those rabbits that escaped from a research facility on a Government-owned island and made it to shore, back in '95. As I recall, they were being used for some research into some lethal pathogen or other. Since there are Australians still alive, I take it that the crisis was brought under control, but that was cutting it a little fine. I guess we can add the Australian Government to things that are lethal, though.

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  12. Re:shouldn't it be... by lawpoop · · Score: 5, Informative

    The word 'pus' is Greek for foot, and the plural in Greek is 'podes', so it would be octopodes -- except the name of the animal is not 'eight-feet', it's 'eight-foot', so it's one 'eight-foot' or 'octopus' and many 'eight-foots' or 'octopuses'.

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  13. If it rhymes, it must be true by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 4, Funny
    In the ocean, wriggling by,

    are octopuses, not octopi.

    Attr. to Patricia T. O'Conner, as is the quote, "Octopi is for suckers".

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    1. Re:If it rhymes, it must be true by ModMeFlamebait · · Score: 4, Funny

      octopi is 25.1327412

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  14. Re:Could they be harmful? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Instead of listing all of the deadly things about Australia, it's much easier to list the non-deadly things:

    - some of the sheep

    Thanks Terry Pratchett.

  15. Re:Let me get in my boat before you start research by PrinceOfStorms · · Score: 3, Interesting

    And for those who don't even get the "NGE" reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neon_Genesis_Evangeli on_glossary#Second_Impact.

    (And yes, I had to look it up myself.)

  16. Re:Could they be harmful? by Fred_A · · Score: 3, Funny
    Naaah. Since they never probably evolve near humans, they couldn't possibility be harmful.
    They could have nasty pointy teeth.
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  17. Re:I get suspicious... by hywel_ap_ieuan · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I get suspicious whenever a creature purported to have gone extinct X million years ago is discovered alive and well.It seems to happen with some regularity.It seems to me, if you find a fossil of an animal you believe to be extinct, you will probably test it with the assumption it is of relatively old age.I think you probably find what you're looking for.Anyway, not trying to start a flame war. But that's probably going to happen anyway. ("YOU IGNORANT BASTARD DO YOU EVEN KNOW HOW DATING WORKS!!!")
    You've hit on the first objection to your suspicion already - dating isn't based on anything so trivial as believing an organism is extinct. It's based, typically, on knowing the approximate age of the sediment the fossil is found in. That in turn is based on things like radiodating of overlaying igneous rock, index fossils in the same or nearby layers, and similar techniques. Due to stuff like that, the general age of most sediments is pretty well known. Geologists who are familiar with a given area can tell you what era a particular formation dates from. If your fossil came from a well-known formation, you probably know the date of a given fossil plus or minus a few percent as soon as you locate it.
    As to how you know the critter is extinct: You don't, not with 100% certainty. But if it's over a few million years old, it's a pretty good bet. Most species don't last all that long, geologically speaking. And you're probably also rather misled by the popular reporting. The "Jurassic Shrimp" is actually a new species within a genus (Neoglyphea) with only one previously-known member, which genus is part of a family (Glypheidae)that was previously thought to be extinct. As one of the discoverers said, "the group is less completely extinct than was thought."