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World's First Jail Sentence for BitTorrent Piracy

Rob T Firefly writes "Hong Kong newspaper The Standard reports on what seems to be the world's first case of a BitTorrent movie pirate being sent to jail. (Others have been jailed for related crimes.) After losing his appeal against a November 2005 conviction, Chan Nai-ming, a 38-year-old BitTorrent user known as 'Big Crook,' has begun serving a prison sentence for making the films 'Daredevil,' 'Miss Congeniality,' and 'Red Planet' available for download via BitTorrent. His appeal was based on the fact that he did not profit from the piracy." From the article: "[Appeals Judge] Beeson noted [convicting magistrate] MacIntosh, in handing out the sentence, was fully aware of the noncommercial nature of the case, but measured the seriousness of the case by the harm done to the moviemakers — not by the gain made by the offender. Chan, and those in the chatroom, 'were aware of the possible criminal implications of uploading films to the system,' Beeson wrote. She also noted the sentence was already drastically reduced, from a maximum of four years, to three months, in order 'to reflect the novelty of the conviction.'

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  1. wow by joss · · Score: 5, Funny

    > BitTorrent movie pirate being sent to jail. (Others have been jailed for related crimes.) After losing his appeal against a November 2005 conviction, Chan Nai-ming, a 38-year-old BitTorrent user known as 'Big Crook,' has begun serving a prison sentence for making the films 'Daredevil,' 'Miss Congeniality,' and 'Red Planet' available for download via BitTorrent

    Damn, I didnt know bad taste was a jailable offence.

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    1. Re:wow by HappySqurriel · · Score: 5, Funny

      Now if only they would arrest the people who were involved in making those movies ...

    2. Re:wow by ggwood · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Ya, and since "[the judge] measured the seriousness of the case by the harm done to the moviemakers" the sentence should be the movie makers handing cash to this guy. He's advertising their crappy movies for them, for free.

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    3. Re:wow by geekoid · · Score: 4, Funny

      I would be happy with just the arrest of Ben Afflack

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    4. Re:wow by BakaHoushi · · Score: 3, Interesting

      And 100% of people who still bring up "Bush stole the election in 2000" jokes in every topic. =)

      (No offense. I do believe it happened, but... it happened. Making fun of Bush now is a lot like beating up a man with broken arms and legs. Sure, you could, but... why bother? What else can you do to him that hasn't already been done?)

      But as far as bad taste goes, look at any list of top sellers in any field.

      Whaddya know, 8 million people bought Madden 0X again, even though it's the same game as last year, with a new guy on the cover!
      Hmmm... Bill O'Rielly's book on the best-seller list? O R(iel)LY?
      Hey! (Popstar who can't sing)/(Rap artist who sings about crimes he never did) just went quintuple super ultra platinum again! At least until everyone forgets him by next week.

      Also, try walking into a fashion or decoration store sometime. I'm against the death penalty, but if bad taste were legal and I were a judge, I'd send half of the USA to the gallows.

    5. Re:wow by RKBA · · Score: 4, Insightful
      What else can you do to him that hasn't already been done?
      Hanging for treason against the American people and the United States Constitution?
  2. Just what is "Uploading" in this case? by Kelson · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The article doesn't make it clear, but from the description, it sounds like he posted the .torrent files somewhere and either ran the tracker or put the whole mess on a site that would run it.

    If this actually applied to simply seeding the file as a peer (i.e. downloading via BitTorrent and leave the client running), then there's more of a potential chilling effect, as it sets a precedent for downloading-via-BT being the equivalent of distribution.

    1. Re:Just what is "Uploading" in this case? by Kijori · · Score: 4, Funny

      But bittorrent is if someone else gives them the sheet and you give them the letters to fill it in. I don't think anyone's going to find you guilty for selling alphabet soup in the knowledge that they might write something bad.

    2. Re:Just what is "Uploading" in this case? by billcopc · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Bittorrent itself is just a protocol. If you were to encrypt the movie file and give the decryption key to everyone you want to share it with, then an outsider could not play back the movie. Now is an encrypted movie file still a movie ? Or is it just random garbage ?

      This could be interpreted at least two ways. You could say that it is like a car with no engine. Technically it's still a car, even though you can't operate it. This is likely what a large corporation would use for an argument. Let's turn it around now, what if you have just the engine. Are you still in possession of a "car" even though most of its parts are missing ?

      Back to piracy: If I'm sharing 99% of a file, but the file is unusable, I am probably going to get sued for piracy. Now if I were to share only the 1%, I'm still technically committing piracy. In both instances, the result is unusable. In both instances, I am distributing a portion of copyrighted content. In both instances, it can't be proven that what I am distributing is actually someone's copyrighted work. Repairing the file by replacing the missing bits could be construed as fabricating evidence, because we start out with a useless file, and after reconstruction it is now a playable movie. Well what if I am on trial for a stabbing murder, but the only "weapon" I'm carrying is a banana, so the prosecution "repairs" my banana by tying it to a machete, turning it into an illegal death banana. Yes it's loony, but to a non-technical person they are one and the same. The difference is most people know the difference between a knife and a banana, common sense takes over. Not nearly as many people know the intricacies of digital encryption and steganography and we're left having to trust the "expert", who is on someone's payroll.

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  3. Please remind me again by Psionicist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Please remind me again how this man is so dangerous to society he must be locked up in jail.

    1. Re:Please remind me again by AndersOSU · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You know sometimes we put people in jail for reasons other than they are dangerous, like to punish them... Otherwise a "white collar criminal" would never have to do jail time.

    2. Re:Please remind me again by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You try telling anyone whose life savings were vaporized by the fallout from Enron and such that white-collar criminals aren't dangerous.

    3. Re:Please remind me again by geekoid · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yes, but there are other punishments.
      Public service comes to mind.

      Jails should be about rehabiltating people.

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    4. Re:Please remind me again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "Society is a collection of rules"

      Rules made by a few for the many.

      The few, are in the pockets of the Corporations.

    5. Re:Please remind me again by AndersOSU · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes, but we didn't send the Enron guys to jail because they're dangerous. We sent them to jail because they were bad (among other reasons.) We could make Enron execs effectively harmless in the future by banning them from certain business positions.

      When we talk about sending someone to jail because they're dangerous it usually means preventing them from physically harming people in society at large.

    6. Re:Please remind me again by AndersOSU · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Jails are for lots of things, rehab is perhaps the aspect they are least effective at.

  4. If he had been living in the US by Hubbell · · Score: 4, Funny

    He would have gotten away with it due to the fact that they mention a chatroom, which more than likely means IRC, and nearly every single IRC channel related to piracy has the standard: If you are an agent of the government, you cannot enter here yadayada legalspeak yadayada.

    1. Re:If he had been living in the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      You may not realize this, but you're being modded funny because that statement is completely worthless. An IRC channel that says government agents aren't allowed to enter has no more meaning than an opium den with a sign above it that says police aren't welcome.

  5. Saturation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    To review the saga:


    Here Hong kong announces their plan to find people violating copyright using BitTorrent.

    Here is the report where they actualy find a guy.

    The conviction.

    Now he has been sentenced. Hooray, we were right there with you all the way dude, at least in a metaphorical sense.

    As a contest, the prize for which is my unending admiration, lets all agree not to rehash the same tired arguments in the 3 links above.

  6. "Magistrate MacIntosh..." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    "I'm a Mac, and you're going to jail."

  7. Confession by spyrochaete · · Score: 3, Informative

    Chan also advertised the movies, and the procedure for downloading the files, on an online chatroom.

    So basically he confessed and bragged about his l33titude, just like a little script kiddie bragging about defacing a website on an IIS 3.0 server. Had he not done this, perhaps it would have been more difficult to prove that he was sharing this movie and not just random blocks of binary code that happened to be very similar to those found in one rendition of the AVI files.

    If you're going to share something iffy on BitTorrent use a public tracker that doesn't require logins, and maybe use an anonymous proxy like TOR. This isn't a 100% safe solution but it's likely better than what this chap did.

  8. Actual harm done by LParks · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "MacIntosh, in handing out the sentence, was fully aware of the noncommercial nature of the case, but measured the seriousness of the case by the harm done to the moviemakers"

    I imagine that the moviemakers actually did lose sales on these products, because most of the people that downloaded and watched these movies probably realized how bad they were and lost interest in purchasing them.

    These companies want you to be blindfolded, and purchase based on 30 second blurbs with a catchy voice saying exciting things. When people see product they can make an actual informed purchase (or non-purchase).

  9. The court doesn't recognize bad movies by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 3, Informative
    There are a ton of snarky "lol the movies sucked" comments being posted, and that's all good, but it's actually interesting to note that this very fact formed another part of Chan's failed appeal. FTA:
    Beeson seconded MacIntosh in rejecting the argument the movies "were neither current, nor in the `blockbuster' category." She wrote: "A court was not in a position to assess the quality or value of such material."
  10. what a turn of fate... by east+coast · · Score: 4, Funny

    Chan Nai-ming, a 38-year-old BitTorrent user known as 'Big Crook,'

    In prison his user name will be "Ben Dover"

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  11. Re:Prison sentence? by danpsmith · · Score: 4, Funny
    If anyone deserves it it was him.

    Can you just imagine what it would be like to be in the big house on this charge?

    Cellmate: "Whatcha in for man?"

    Nai-ming: "Miss Congeniality and Daredevil, how about you?"

    Cellmate: "Double-murder, you're a Daredevil huh? well you'll be Miss Congeniality tonight."

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  12. Re:I don't know what's worse by meta-monkey · · Score: 3, Funny

    That's nothing. I worked at a campus computer research lab at a major US university. Somebody got into our system through an old forgotten Sparc workstation that hadn't been patched. They deleted the entire contents of our home directories and replaced it with 40GB of porn, that they then proceeded to share through IRC. This was about 6 or 7 years ago, when 40GB was an ungodly amount of anything.

    We had nightly backups of our home directories and all our work, so we don't lose anything. It was really kind of hard to be mad at anybody who gives you 40GB of porn.

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  13. Re:German society circa. 1936? by FatSean · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You missed the point. Just because 'society' says something is wrong, doesn't make it wrong. Society once thought slavery was all good. Society once thought that making women subservient to men was all good...and some societies still do! Me, I make up my own morals based on others' ideas.

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  14. Re:It's called deterrence. by jb.hl.com · · Score: 4, Funny

    Even though there exist heterosexual men and women in the world, they don't all want to fuck each other all the time

    We're on Slashdot. We're already fully aware of that. ;)

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