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FSF Launches "BadVista" Campaign

FrankNFurter writes to note the launch yesterday of the FSF's BadVista campaign against Microsoft's new operating system. BadVista's aim is to inform users about the alleged harms inflicted by Vista on the user and about free software alternatives. Quoting program administrator John Sullivan: "Vista is an upsell masquerading as an upgrade. It is an overall regression when you look at the most important aspect of owning and using a computer: your control over what it does. Obviously MS Windows is already proprietary and very restrictive, and well worth rejecting. But the new 'features' in Vista are a Trojan Horse to smuggle in even more restrictions. We'll be focusing attention on detailing how they work, how to resist them, and why people should care."

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  1. Would've been nice if... by thre5her · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...they included some of these shortcomings. I was expecting a good read, which RMS is usually keen to offer.

    1. Re:Would've been nice if... by bigman2003 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The FSF site links to a CERN article about the 25 shortcomings.

      One of the shortcomings they list is 'Lack of AppleTalk support.'

      Is support for a dying, proprietary protocol something we'll really miss?

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    2. Re:Would've been nice if... by kjart · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The article you were referring to was rather lackluster - I read the first page and couldn't be bothered to click next. Heck, needing better hardware, more RAM and more disk space are all separate reasons! Not only that, they're all top 10.

      I'm not a Vista fanboy, but this and the other articles linked smell of desperation. I would think there would be enough legitimate, well reasoned reasons to bash Vista without having to resort to FUD already.

    3. Re:Would've been nice if... by cheesybagel · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No. People use Windows because it had first mover advantage. Windows is an operating system running on commodity hardware, which comes bundled with said commodity hardware. It has a vast catalog of software running on it. Including applications and services which have become defacto standards such as Microsoft Excel, Word, Powerpoint and Exchange. It is also the most viable commodity PC platform for gaming and multimedia because of its driver, API and app support. You can get World of Warcraft, Neverwinter Nights 2, Medieval Total War, Oblivion. Photoshop, Premiere, Illustrator, InDesign, Acrobat. Lightwave, 3D Studio. That is the reality. Microsoft may try to spin things as if it was something different, as if people used Windows for its low support costs, but that pack of lies should not make us blind enough to see the truth for what it is.

      Developers, developers, developers... Microsoft basically gives away its development tools to students. Microsoft Visual Studio is actually a pretty decent development environment. Shame the Windows APIs are an utter mess and brain damaged to the extreme. Hence .NET. I believe that in order for an operating system to overthrow Windows, it must have lower barriers for entry due to less brain damaged APIs and simpler programming. NeXT could have been the thing if the hardware wasn't so bloody expensive and hard to get. Not to mention they were stuck on an Objective C mindset while C++ was gaining ground.

      Linux already has the free GNU toolset. PHP, Python, Perl, Ruby. It will soon have a wholly free Java toolset from Eclipse to the JDK. To me the largest weakness in Linux is the multimedia support. I am not surprised by the lack of multimedia apps and games for Linux. Try getting two Linux programs to use the soundcard without one locking the other up. Try getting 3D graphics to work properly.

      The OSS sound API sucked. ALSA sucks. OpenGL support is feeble. Why does not every Linux distro come with something like OpenAL? Why must users have to painstakingly compile and install it themselves? Why must users have to install closed source and buggy graphics drivers? Certainly some of these problems are difficult to solve, since there are barriers from the hardware manufacturers. However there is plenty of room for improvement even despite that. The sound situation being a good example. Why is there no standard Linux media API? MPlayer comes with its own, VLC another, there is FFMPEG, then there is GStreamer and whatever the KDE people use. WTF!

      The problem with being a good liar, is that eventually you start believing what you say. Then you act as if it was true and you end up destroying yourself. Being a compulsive liar is a dangerous thing to be. Dismissing the real reasons Windows is at the position it is today as if it was merely due to rhetoric is doing a disservice to yourself.

  2. FUD??!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wouldn't this campaign fall under the definition of Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt??!! After all, the FSF already hates Microsoft with a passion, and this is just another axe to grind here. I doubt they actually have even seen Vista or used it to know what exactly it is.

    Slashdot and its minions seems to hate Microsoft FUD, but shouldn't you people have a problem with FUD on the other side? This site has gone full throttle on the anti-Vista campaign already and it isn't even on store shelves yet. Sheesh.

  3. Bad Vista, starring Billy Bob Thornton? by hattig · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I hate negative marketing.

    All the effort should be spent on advocating your advantages in a positive manner - and then you can compare yourself to the competition, you have a solution to the problem, you're not merely pointing out the bad stuff.

    Negative marketing has been shown time and time again to annoy the people that catch the brunt of it - political campaigns through to Apple adverts. Maybe it will stop a few people upgrading, but it won't make them think of switching another solution unless you present that alternative solution in a wondrous halo of wonder fixing all of their issues.

    How about a GoodLinux or something campaign as well?

    (I didn't read the article)

  4. I miss DOS by Original+Replica · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm not a dedicated MicroSoft hater, but I do miss the days when I gave my computer "commands" not "suggestions". Nothing is quite so aggrivating as hidden directories and being told that I cannot delete something.

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  5. Re:Vista is Bad. Use Linux. Use GPL software. by shadowmas · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I like linux and prefer it over windows. And i'm not a microsoft fan either. but i must say that i don't like the sound of this particular FSF project. if you have a product (Linux) you should spend your time promoting it and enhancing it. not trying to degrade you'r competitors product (no matter how truthful it might be).

  6. Re:FSF burning the last of its legitimacy by QuantumG · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The FSF has never been worried about appearing as "nutty hippies". Quite the opposite.

    Region encoding on DVDs sucks... but does that keep people from buying DVDs... NO NO NO! The fact that no-one can service a new Ford except a registered Ford dealer, who has prices for his services set by Ford, doesn't stop people from buying new Fords either. This is why we need the government to step in and enforce anti-trust laws, but they're so paid off that they people can't rely on them to do anything anymore. This is why we need political action, and that is exactly what the FSF is doing.
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  7. The most impoortant aspect? by dangitman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It is an overall regression when you look at the most important aspect of owning and using a computer: your control over what it does.

    I dunno, for me the most important thing about owning a computer is productivity - to be able to do the tasks I want to do. I could migrate to a non-proprietary system, but I would not benefit if it had fewer applications that I find useful. I can't write my own high-level applications. Nor do the Open Source and Free alternatives meet my needs yet. Of course, control is nice, but my proprietary OS (MacOS) gives me more control than I actually use, in addition to great applications. If it stopped me from working with those apps, or locked up the media I used, then it would be an issue.

    An analogy might be automatic transmission on a car, or electronic systems in a car. It gives less control and serviceability - but most users find the benefits of automatic transmission and electronics to be worth it. I could buy an old Chevy that I could fix myself - but then I would suffer many drawbacks in actually using the vehicle. Or games consoles - they are not as customizable as a PC system, but most people just want to play games, and a console makes this goal a lot easier to accomplish.

    It's rather annoying when people assume what the most important thing is to me.

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  8. say what? by briancnorton · · Score: 4, Insightful
    "the most important aspect of owning and using a computer: your control over what it does"

    Yeah, I invite my friends over to show off how much control I have over it.

    this is just asinine. The most important aspect of ME owning and using a computer is that it does something useful for me. (like letting me post on slashdot or look at porn) If I was interested in control, I would use a pencil and paper.

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  9. Re:So.... by Planesdragon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Locking the users into proprietary software and DRM are not improvements for users.

    I am writing this on my Vista-installed laptop, through Firefox. I just checked my e-mail on Thunderbird, and, if I thought it was worth my time, I could intall OpenOffice. I have a few gigabytes of music here, all MP3 without any DRM on them at all.

    The only thing that Vista does to "reduce" my freedoms is have better support for DRM-enabled stores. So, if I want to purchase music instead of getting a CD from the store (as I prefer), I can go to someone other than iTunes, and put my music on a device that isn't made by Apple.

    Does MS have DRM here? Sure. Can I remove it entirely at will? You betcha. Is this entirely irrelevant to the new features MS put in Vista, like the GPU-utilizing pretty windows or the "press a button and type a command" functionality of the start menu? Yep.

    Everyone who cares or will care knows about the FSF, and what "free software" means. If you want to discourage "not-free" software, it's time to start promoting how good free software is -- otherwise, the question is "are those freedoms worth the annoyance"

  10. Re:Speculations and guesswork by Fred_A · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And not a word on all the DRM goodness. :-/
    Most of the shortcomings picked are fairly irrelevant. The few that could be are not very well addressed. Very lacking paper and poor reporting IMO.

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  11. Re:Speculations and guesswork by jweller · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Hardly relevant, any hard drive sold within the last few years will allow > 100GB.

    ample resources are no excuse to waste them.

  12. I cant understand if you are stupid, or real by unity100 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You are saying that you will OWN a computer in the midst of your living room, install a piece of software in it in order for it to work, you are going to do internet banking over it, send and receive private emails to your colleagues, family, loved ones and friends over it, preserve your private documents on it, and yet, you are o.k. with someone in a remote location having more control over it than you do ? To the extent that they can override whatever you want to do on it ?

    What kind of over-trustful approach is this ? Are you living in a place where people still can sleep with their doors unlocked at night ?