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Hans Reiser to Sell Company

DVega writes "Due to increasing legal costs, murder suspect Hans Reiser is seeking to sell his company. His lawyer William DuBois said he is running out of money to pay for his defense. DuBois added, 'This is a unique opportunity for someone to buy the company for pennies on the dollar. We welcome all vultures.' This is a good opportunity to own a filesystem and rename it after your own."

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  1. Re:Why pay for that? by doom · · Score: 5, Informative
    Anonymous Coward wrote:
    er, couldn't you just fork it and rename it whatever you want for free?

    Provided you licensed it under the GPL, yes, you could do that.

    The copyright holder has additional options, however -- Hans Reiser says that he actually makes some money selling the right to use his file system without telling anyone else that they're using it.

    (Yes I know, but the corporate world is weird.)

    Also, if you RTFM, you'll see that they mention proprietary add-on products, such as a file compressor

  2. Re:This is sad ... by shystershep · · Score: 4, Informative

    Um, no to both the first two (yes to the evil lawyer thing). You don't have to pay a dime of the government's court costs, win or lose. And you have a right to a free lawyer if you can't afford one.

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  3. Re:This is sad ... by powerlinekid · · Score: 5, Informative

    From the evidence it doesn't look like hes very innocent.

    Blood found in his mother's house and a sleeping bag found in his car match his former wife's

    Prior history of aggression toward her which led to a restraining order.

    A motive in that he has been trying to get custody of his children and they will not give them to him.

    And of course this gem from SFgate:

    Hans Reiser's Honda was missing its front passenger seat when police seized it Sept. 19, Cavness testified in an Oakland courtroom. After technicians removed the carpeting from the front seat area, they noticed that the floorboard had been saturated with water, Cavness said.

    Inside the car, police found a 40-piece socket set, Cavness said. The tools appeared to have been used to remove four bolts that had been used to attach the passenger seat to the floor, she said.

    Also found inside the car, according to police, was a roll of trash bags, masking tape, a siphon pump, absorbent towels and two books: "Homicide: A Year on the Killing Streets," by David Simon, about the Baltimore police homicide squad, and "Masterpieces of Murder," by Jonathan Goodman, about notorious murder cases.


    All in all, I'd say its not looking good for him.

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  4. Re:This is sad ... by Anonymous+Freak · · Score: 5, Informative

    As has been said, nope.

    Win or lose, you pay your own lawyer fees (which, if you go with the court-appointed attorney, is free,) and any fine. The fine is *NOT* considered paying back court costs, it is a deterrent.

    And you can only get your money back (and compensation for the hassle,) if you sue the government for wrongful prosecution and win. Basically, you have to prove that the government charged you when they knew you were innocent. (i.e. if they charge someone with murder, knowing full well that the accused didn't do it, because they know that the accused knows who did it. So they are charging one person with murder SOLELY to get that person to break and testify against someone else.) The trick, of course, is PROVING that the government KNEW that you were innocent. If they had even the slightest shred of circumstantial evidence, it can be hard to win one of these cases. (I was on a jury for one of these once. It was rather obvious that the government PROBABLY knew, but that wasn't enough to find against the government. The judge's instructions were very clear.)

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  5. Re:Prosecute murder with no body? by mabhatter654 · · Score: 2, Informative

    the key is to get convicted... then get appealed for lack of some evidence. (If a case is just dropped without conviction..like they used to do on Matlock or Perry Mason with "last minute" courtroom revelations, then you haven't been CONVICTED and it's just starts a new crime-trial cycle. In those cases the case is not acquitted, it's withdwawn...a big difference!) At that point you have been guilty, and can't be re-guilty. The key is to find the "dead" person in between times and REALLY knock them off. Because if the person actually shows up there's ways they can undo the conviction. But if they don't "offically" present themselves... like they're trying to run away illegally and set you up... they might be harmed. At that point, even if the police DID find the body, you were convicted of a crime on X date, and this body is obviously fresh...

  6. Re:This is sad ... by oo · · Score: 5, Informative

    ...The judge's instructions were very clear.)

    Please don't forget that a judge's instructions are worthless and that you as a member of the jury have all the power and the final say. You have the power to decide whether a law is just or unjust and are free to ignore it and do as you wish. Anything that comes out of the judge's mouth means diddly-squat. What the law says means diddly-squat. You create the law if you're on a jury.

    Google for "jury nullification" if you want more info.

  7. Re:This is sad ... by ComputerSlicer23 · · Score: 4, Informative
    I forget the legal term for it, but I believe a judge can set aside a jury verdict also. It's also leaving the judge open to review, and is likely to be grounds for a mistrial, retrial or appeal (whatever the appropriate legal term is). So it works both ways.


    Kirby

  8. Re:This is sad ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    In the South, that joke is told. The difference is that "lawyer" is replace with "'black person" or some other word that refers to a black person. No, I'm not kidding. I've heard it with my own ears.

    A friend of mine described these as "hate jokes". That is, they have no intrinsic humor other than delight at suffering. The substitution of "nigger" for "lawyer" that you describe is how you tell if a joke is in this category.

    While they can be mildly amusing ("What do you call 100 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?"), to me they indicate a lazy humorist.

  9. Re:Give the money to his kids by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Give money to the kids at The Nina Reiser Fund:

    http://www.ninareiser.com/donate.html

  10. Re:Heh,, by Jugalator · · Score: 2, Informative

    AeroFS.. I bet that would bring a lawsuit from Microsoft..

    I believe Aero is simply a user interface branding, barely even software-related but more about design.
    While the filesystem would be purely software related. It could actually be interesting to watch. ;-)

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  11. Re:Alternatively by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    this is a good opportunity to help fund the freedom of a possible murderer.

    Not sure if you meant the "good" part in jest. But I hope not. A possible murderer is not a murderer. Not a criminal. And, thus, entitled to most freedoms.

  12. Sure, happens all the time by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 2, Informative

    If a body was required for murder, well hell it'd be rather easy to get away with murder wouldn't it? Just make sure the body was disposed of in a way such that it could be found and you'd never have to worry.

    It's called a circumstantial case and while it's the weakest kind and not what the prosecution likes bringing, it can be successfully made. Basically you show that all the circumstances point to murder, and that there's not a reasonable alternate explanation.

    Same kind of case they tried, and failed, to make against OJ Simpson.

    It's actually more common than you'd think. Usually, in a case with direct evidence it never goes to trial. If the prosecution has the body, the bullet from it, the gun, and your fingerprints on the gun you almost certainly aren't getting out of that. However if the evidence is circumstantial, well then all you've got to do is convince one person in twelve that it is reasonable to doubt that you did it and you aren't going to jail.

  13. Re:Aww... by SenorCitizen · · Score: 2, Informative

    That's Amiga FFS, for fuck's sake...

  14. Vultures? by AlHunt · · Score: 3, Informative

    Reisers attorney, according to TFA:

    >'This is a unique opportunity for someone to buy the company for pennies on the dollar. We welcome all vultures.

    "vultures"? Funny words from the vulture bleeding him in the first place.

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  15. Re:This is sad ... by Lumpy · · Score: 1, Informative

    Exactly, any competent Juror will ingore the Judges instructions. Typically they are illegal, or pusing the judges agenda. As a juror you are there to decide right and wrong not the bullshit the Judge tries to shove down your throat.

    Fun part, if you say that at any time, they make sure you dont get on the jury. They dont want juries tainted with free thinkers that know their and others rights. (Hence why some places only allow people for the death penalty on murder trials.)

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  16. Re:This is sad ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative
    Aren't you supposed to interpret the law when you're on a jury? During the trial, facts are established, the laws relevant to the case are explained, and the jury debates the facts vs. the laws to decide guilty or not guilty.

    Jury nullification as referenced by the grandparent post refers to a juror's ability to decide a law is unjust and thus a different verdict should be rendered. Consider a law that says any person who kills another person shall be sentenced to death. Now consider Joe accidentally kill Bill. Under such a law, Joe is clearly guilty. However, a jury could look at the law and decide Joe doesn't deserve to be convicted and refuse to render a guilty verdict. That is exactly the situation that transformed juries from a body that renders a "proven" or "not proven" verdict to one that issues a "guilty" or "not guilty" verdict.

    In the words of John Adams, "It is not only his right but also his duty to find the verdict according to his own best understanding, judgment, and conscience, though in direct opposition to the direction of the court."

    Suppose a state congress changes its murder laws so that it is okay for a white person to kill a black person. Should the jury blindly enforce such a law?

  17. Re:WinFS by DuckDodgers · · Score: 4, Informative

    ReiserFS, however, is a reality, and can do prettymuch what MS advertised with WinFS.

    The whole point of WinFS is to extend the data orginization indexing and searching advantages of relational databases to your filesystem.

    ReiserFS is a great journaling filesystem, but I don't believe it has anything to do with the concepts behind WinFS. I don't know how NTFS journaling compares to ReiserFS journaling, but NTFS does have journaling already.

  18. Re:This is sad ... by jnik · · Score: 3, Informative
    The saddest of all is that an innocent person was murdered.

    No, a person is missing. That she was murdered is an inference.

  19. Re:This is sad ... by Obyron · · Score: 2, Informative

    JNOV: Judgment Non Obstante Veredicto. Judges are not allowed to use JNOV to direct a verdict of guilty when the jury returns an acquittal. Once you've requested a jury trial, only a jury can convict you.

    Wiki it for more info.

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  20. Re:Aww... by Bloke+down+the+pub · · Score: 2, Informative

    No, it's GNU/FFS, FFS!

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  21. Re:WinFS by Burz · · Score: 2, Informative

    Settle down there little doobie.

    ReiserFS 3.x supports extended attributes (metadata) and ReiserFS 4.x supports that in spades with all sorts of database-like possibilities.

    As for filesystems joining data with executables at the hip, all I have to say is it sounds a lot like OLE, ActiveX, etc. and I shudder to think how it might be abused.

  22. Re:who else might want to kill his exwife? by Teancum · · Score: 4, Informative

    As a very close and personal friend of the Reiser family (I actually know Hans' father better than Hans himself, but that is besides the point), I find this whole episode showing the absolute worst in humanity on almost every level.

    This whole idea of speculating over his innocence or guilt is making me practically throw up each time I see news items here on /. related to this issue. If you have the investigation team equivalent of a D.A. that is going through this with a fine tooth comb, you might be able to intelligently make your own semi-accurate conclusions as to his guilt. For the rest of us, perhaps if we follow this very, very closely, we might be able to see the actual evidence that is presented to the court and make a judgement similar to a jury member.

    If you are relying upon what you are reading or hearing from the popular press (even /. in this case) about what has happened, you are relying on deliberate misinformation and partial facts to come to a conclusion. Hardly the best way to come to any sort of judgement.

    For myself, I see a very dear and personal friend who is going through a living nightmare in one way or another. A family that is litterally being ripped apart and a couple of kids that through no actions of their own are going to be permanently scarred emotionally over what the judicial system is doing to their family... even their extended family.

    This is also in a small way economically affecting me personally, and I wish I had more money to send and help Hans out so he wouldn't have to go through this very drastic step.

    At the same time, regardless of what happens, Hans' life in a sense is over and he is beginning something completely new from scratch. By selling the company he is also suggesting that perhaps it is time to move on with some other completely new project or even lifestyle.

    I pray for the day that Hans will no longer be a major news item on /. especially in this context.

  23. Re:WinFS by Jeld · · Score: 2, Informative

    This is true, but only superficially. It is not like Linux "has" 129 filesystems, but it ***supports*** a lot of different file systems. So weather you want to access your NTFS windows partition or HFS MacOS disc you can do it. More or less every distribution out there will format your partitions as ext3 at install time by default. Windows on the other hand only supports two filesystems (not One File System) which are FAT32 and NTFS. So if I have a disk from my friend's iMac or linux box or solaris server or IRIX workstation or basically anything except windows, I will not be able to read it in windows whatever I do.

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