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New Research Could Lead to Transparent Displays

An anonymous reader tipped us to a ScienceDaily story about advances that may lead to transparent transistors. By combining inorganic and organic materials, we may reach the goal of transparent surfaces that can display information, with no visible wiring marring the effect. The article cites HUDs on car windshields, and targeting goggles for soldiers, but I'm sure we can think of some additional interesting uses for such a technology. From the article: "High-performance, transparent transistors could be combined with existing kinds of light display technologies, such as organic light-emitting diodes, liquid crystal displays (LCDs) and electroluminescent displays, which are already used in televisions, desktop and laptop computers and cell phones ... Prototype displays using the transistors developed at Northwestern could be available in 12 to 18 months, said Marks. He has formed a start-up company, Polyera, to bring this and related technologies to market."

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  1. What are you doing here?It's time for holiday ham! by Sheetrock · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, it's Christmas time here so I've got a little time to do some reading. And frankly, I'm excited to hear about the progress on greener technologies forthcoming next year. I was just reading about a projection TV set that will use laser to increase range-of-color and decrease power usage by a third -- win-win! And it got me to thinking; given that the average computer uses about 52,000 pine trees worth of energy every day there's probably a lot of slack that can be tightened up to restrict wasteful consumption. While one could probably save the most by dimming the 'Brightness' setting on his monitor, I strongly suspect the greatest savings will be realized by emphasizing energy saving technologies in the personal computer.

    Sure, spending another hundred or so on efficient computing wouldn't make the video games run any faster, but if it was mandated we'd probably notice huge dividends in nationwide energy consumption. Energy that could then be used to run our cars, or air conditioning, or substinence farming. Until then I suppose we could just use the coal from our Christmas stockings to offset the electric bill, lol.

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  2. Re:What's the point of Transparent displays? by NeuroKoan · · Score: 2, Informative

    I think the point is that the displays are completely transparent when off but become partially or fully opaque when they are displaying images.

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  3. Re:I'm slow but... by ubergamer1337 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "What's next, invisible ink? Cold fire? Inaudible music? Invisible Ink: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_ink
    Cold Fire: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ColdHeat
    Inaudible Music: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4'33%22

    Three very known and legitimate versions of your 3 "useless" objects. Just because something is an oxymoron, doesn't make it stupid
  4. Macs with transparent displays by srk · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There is a bunch of concepts for how to use the transparent displays. Most of all I like this: http://www.gizmowatch.com/entry/eye-freezing-futur e-imac-concept/ May be it will become true some time soon....

  5. The Internet is really really great... by aredubya74 · · Score: 2

    ...but I'm sure we can think of some additional interesting uses for such a technology
    For porn!

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  6. Pictures by loconet · · Score: 3, Funny

    Here are the first pictures of this technology

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  7. Ugly chicks of the world rejoice! by multipartmixed · · Score: 2, Funny

    These could make for some seriously fantastic, 24x7 beer googles.

    Are you an ugly chick? Let your lover wear these transparent transistor glasses, and pretend that you're Natalie Portman.

    As long as you can stand hot grits down your pants, you should be able to get as much nookie as you can stand.

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  8. Re:What are you doing here?It's time for holiday h by AoT · · Score: 5, Funny

    Nice idea, but we don't need high-tech transparent transistors. Existing HUD technology would do the job just fine.

    And I'm sure the transparent display would cost a lot more to fix.

    Which means all car windshields should be made of it in about 10 years.

  9. Re:What are you doing here?It's time for holiday h by binkzz · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I think it may be the same guy who was trying to start a rumour that the average computer used the equivalent half a container ship of coal to run each day.

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  10. Re:HUD for windshields by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't think anyone would want to use one of these as a HUD by simply gluing them to the windscreen. If that were the case, the user would have to change between focusing an object only 2 feet away, and focusing the road, at least ten times as far away. With this, a large part of the advantage of HUDs would be lost, namely that the displayed data becomes part of the scene by appearing to hover a few yards away.

  11. This would make a lousy HUD by El+Puerco+Loco · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The whole point of a HUD is that you don't have to shift focus between the display and objects in the environment. In aircraft HUDs, the image is collimated, so it appears to be focused wherever the pilot happens to be looking at the time. This can't be achieved by simply putting a transparent monitor on the windscreen in front of your eyes, it requires a projection system. The type of display they are talking about here would not be much better than a regular instrument panel, because you would still need to shift focus from the outside environment to the windscreen. The same goes for a targeting system built into goggles, it would be useless because you would need to shift your focus to the targeting display a few inches from your eye to the target several hundred meters away.

    1. Re:This would make a lousy HUD by wingbat · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You're assuming this can't be combined with the technology behind 3D LCD monitors (already commercial), where each eye sees a different image because of its angle...

    2. Re:This would make a lousy HUD by MrNaz · · Score: 5, Informative

      He's assuming that because it can't. There are two aspects to depth perception, one is the angle of the image with regards to the eye's direction, the other is the optical focus of the eye itself.

      The focus of the image is the result of the latter. To demonstrate this, get a magic marker and draw a picture onto a pair of swimming goggles. Then try to wear the goggles, and focus on the image you have drawn on them at the same time as an object in the distance.

      Spoiler: you will not be able to.

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  12. What's the difference... by Tjeerd · · Score: 2

    ...with existing technologies like used by for example Universal Display, where they use transparent OLEDS?

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  13. contrast control by Speare · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Everyone thinks that transparent displays are a really cool idea until they try to actually look at one in uncontrolled lighting situations. Minority Report displays weren't real, folks, and the special effects crew could ignore physics to make it happen. The key to being able to see things is contrast. If this thing isn't actively both shadowing and emitting, the display will be totally useless in light areas or dark areas or both.

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    1. Re:contrast control by Evil+Pete · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yeah it's a bit like when you first tried transparent terms. Eterm in my case (pause for a bit of nostalgia). Really really cool looking. But actually using it was less wonderful. Sadly transparent terms are not a good idea, even with tinting. 'Cept for showing off your OS ... definitely a winner with chicks.

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  14. I'd stack 'em by MadCow42 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Stack about 30 or so transparent displays on top of each other and create a true 3-D display - albeit limited in number of layers of depth to the number of screens. Anyone with a 30-head video card for me? :)

    MadCow.

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  15. Electronic windshields?! by PapayaSF · · Score: 2, Funny
    And I'm sure the transparent display would cost a lot more to fix.
    Which means all car windshields should be made of it in about 10 years.

    Indeed. And who wants a computer-controlled windshield that can crash all on its own? That would be a true Blue Screen of Death!

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    1. Re:Electronic windshields?! by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Indeed. And who wants a computer-controlled windshield that can crash all on its own? That would be a true Blue Screen of Death!"

      Exactly. I could install it on my Delorean, travel back to 1999, and find that joke funny!

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  16. Re:What are you doing here?It's time for holiday h by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Quit worrying about that crap. 52000 pine trees? The coal puts CO2 in the air enough for 52000 pine trees to be very happy and make more sugar (photosynthesis results in food...). Even if we burned trees for power, when you cut down a tree in America you need to plant 2 more elsewhere; there's a whole tree-planting industry, the foresters and developers just pay someone when they tear out a chunk of woodlands so they go somewhere else and put down more trees; some of the newly planted ones die, overpopulation of an area causes about half of them give or take to get crowded out, and everything is preserved (we have more trees now than we did long ago).

    Energy efficiency will come when it's a good business move, no sooner. When the government mandates spending ~$100 more per machine to make it energy-efficient, the manufacturers will use it as an excuse to charge ~$300 more and ramp up sales. When businesses demand cooler, more energy-efficient servers because it costs them $200/hr to AC the server room and $6000/hr to power all the machines, Intel and AMD will offer them $8000 more expensive CPUs that save them $1000/hr.

    How about you? Worry about your wallet instead of national energy consumption; move to solar water heating, CFLs, a geothermal heat pump, and tack on some solar panels to kill off your electric and heating bill. Your expenses drop by $500/month and the $20,000 you spend pays for itself in about 2 years. If your neighbors want to eat 5 times the power you do, then who cares? They're not important; when the grid can only supply you with a few kWh/month, you can drop in some storage batteries to power your house at night and go fully independent of them.

    I for one am not paying for gas and electric when I buy a house. I'm sealing the leaks; heat-proofing the roof; putting in a custom water heating/heating/power generating solar collector (dense energy collector, my own design, super-efficient); maybe some solar panels if they can outperform my dense energy collector (I can get 35% efficiency for electricity, or sacrifice electricity generation for 90% efficiency heating DIRECTLY from the collector); switching to energy efficient geothermal heat pumps and electrical stove/oven, as well as electrical water heater back-up in case the solar collector can't heat the water. I should overproduce by about 400-900% of what I need (electric; direct, possibly 3 times that if I can make a more efficient system). This is a good business move; I can sell the overproduced power back to the electric company and make money.

  17. Stuck pixels by null+etc. · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Can you imagine how aggravating a stuck pixel will be if it's on your HUD or glasses? My friend has an LCD TV with 3 stuck pixels. I understand the conditions which encourage manufacturers not to accept the exchange of a set unless it has 7 or more stuck pixels, but come on; do you know how fleeced my friend feels, knowing that he paid the same amount of money for a display that has 3 glaring defects which affect his viewing pleasure, whereas his other friends paid the same price for a set with no stuck pixels?

  18. Repeat after me by belg4mit · · Score: 2, Informative

    TRANSLUCENT

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  19. How about? by Mycroft_514 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The inside of my dive mask, to show up the data on my dive computer? There is something like it which uses the edges of the mask, but this would be better.

  20. try the lcd fix programs by cheekyboy · · Score: 2

    Flashing white to black for 24hrs might fix it, try it.

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  21. Re:What are you doing here?It's time for holiday h by robgig1088 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Hmmm... what if we could stack sheets of these together? Hello 3-dimensional television?

  22. Re:What are you doing here?It's time for holiday h by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 2, Funny
    What are you doing here?It's time for holiday ham!

    I'm Jewish you insensitive clod!

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