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Predicting the Internet in 1995

Rexdude writes "Here is a list of predictions from 'The Internet' magazine at the end of 1994. It highlights the major changes and events on the net as it was back then (20 million users only, for starters). Seems a throwback to a relatively more innocent time, when the unwashed masses had not taken over the net as much as today. And look at the reverence accorded to long dead protocols like Gopher!"

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  1. nice "best and worst" for net entertainment by EggyToast · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I like how the only thing that's even remotely relevant today is that Nethack is still around and still entertaining. The complaint about the Web's organization has been solved mostly by the fact that there's a lot of stuff you don't want to find anyway!

  2. Not much has changed, really by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 3, Insightful

    People think it's wonderful how much cool stuff there is out there on the net. Online games are insanely addictive. Major gripes include spam, government regulation and censorship, and how difficult it is to find the information you want. Flamewars over global warming. Seriously, change some of the names (replace Mosaic with Firefox, Nethack with WoW, etc.) and most of what's written here wouldn't raise an eyebrow today. Maybe the only thing that's really changed is that a decade+ ago, these phenomena seemed more worth commenting on.

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    1. Re:Not much has changed, really by Kadin2048 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      new (AKA reinvented) things like blogs and AJAX notwithstanding.

      Reinvented is right. The "blog" is nothing new; back in 1994 there were probably quite a few of them. Except that lacking the word 'blog,' people just called them 'home pages.' Lots of people used to update their home pages obsessively, just typing in updates to the static HTML from the top down, so older stuff got pushed to the bottom of the page. Eventually when it would get too long, you'd copy and paste it onto a separate page.

      What happened, IMO, is that HTML became too complex for the average person to deal with. (This was a combination of the complexity of creating a 'good looking' page increasing, and the technical skill of the average internet user declining.) There was a period of time when personal home pages almost died out, but then blogging software came out and allowed non-technical users to create pages without knowing any HTML.

      Similarly, whenever I (have the misfortune to) visit MySpace, it reminds me of the early days of GeoCities and its "free web site" predecessors. Lots of very bad HTML and aesthetically questionable color choices, mostly driven out of vanity.

      I think it's pretty safe that no matter where the technology goes, people are always going to want to write about themselves and the stuff they experience on a day to day basis; the tools and technologies for doing that will change, but the drive is always there.

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    2. Re:Not much has changed, really by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Insightful
      What happened, IMO, is that HTML became too complex for the average person to deal with. (This was a combination of the complexity of creating a 'good looking' page increasing, and the technical skill of the average internet user declining.) There was a period of time when personal home pages almost died out, but then blogging software came out and allowed non-technical users to create pages without knowing any HTML.

      I don't think that's the problem so much as that people want to create glitzy, unreadable pages with a lot of needless features. MySpace, which you have brought up, is the prime example of that. There's two girls I work with here who both MySpace from work occasionally, and both of their pages are SERIOUSLY FUCKING UGLY AND NEARLY ILLEGIBLE. Reminds me of hotwired.com.

      The other issue is that everyone wants dynamic content now. We all want search functionality, which cannot be efficient without some kind of database full of indexes. We all want user logins so that we can control participation. You can't get all this without a CMS (though you may write it yourself.)

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  3. Missed a few. by Tackhead · · Score: 4, Insightful
    > I like how the only thing that's even remotely relevant today is that Nethack is still around and still entertaining.

    I dunno. Kenny Greenberg's comments seemed to hit pretty hard:

    Worst:

    Prediction:

    • There will be a concerted effort by the U.S. Congress to regulate content on the Internet.

    And as a reminder for those of you who got your hopes up in November of 2006 -- you might want to look at who was President in 1994. Hint: His last name wasn't "Bush".

    1. Re:Missed a few. by jandrese · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Dude, he's from the EFF, they say that every year. I appreciate what the EFF does, but they are always predicting doom and gloom just around the corner.

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    2. Re:Missed a few. by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ``I appreciate what the EFF does, but they are always predicting doom and gloom just around the corner.''

      And they're right, too.

      "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true."

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    3. Re:Missed a few. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      As a Democrat, I can say you're absolutely right. We'll get around to the whole "stupid old people in Washington don't get technology" thing just as soon as we get Washington to stop killing people in idiotic wars, impoverishing them with idiotic economic policies, and denying them cheap, effective universal health care.

    4. Re:Missed a few. by dangitman · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No, health care is a solidly mainstream issue. It's not a "lefty" issue. For most of the world, crazy privatized health-care systems and libertarians give them the heebie jeebies. Why is it a left-wing issue to want decent health care at a reasonable cost?

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    5. Re:Missed a few. by dangitman · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually, most of us with jobs already have "decent" health care at a "reasonable cost."

      Actually, you don't. The US has among the highest health-care costs in the world. Why do you think that people go to Canada or Mexico to get drugs? Are all those retired people and chronically ill people some kind of socialist lefties, because they want to pay reasonable prices for drugs?

      The left always has plenty of great ideas for what could be done with other people's money. Your "right" to health care ends where my "right" to property begins. Guess which one is genuine, and which is based in some overinflated sense of entitlement?

      That doesn't make any sense - because you are worse off financially because of the corporate-driven health care system. And don't think that just because it's corporate driven they aren't making decisions about your money. What's so bad about having better health-care, and lower prices, and fewer uninsured people spreading disease, and causing problems that you ultimately have to pay for anyway? What's so bad about having fewer people robbing pharmacists and hospitals? Other people not having adequate health-care affects all of us, including productivity in the economy at large.

      For some reason, you want to pay more for an inferior system. Why? It is the insistence on this privatized system that is taking dollars out of taxpayers pockets, not universal health-care, which returns a net financial benefit.

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  4. Re:WWW by slim · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Under the list Worst in Net Entertainment:

    The organization of the World-Wide Web. I love the Web, but finding something specific on it is a nightmare. And because the Web is growing by leaps and bounds, I just don't see things getting easier anytime soon.

    How little they knew ...

    None of them predict search engines - because they were a genuine and unexpected innovation. I remember using the Web at around that time - before Yahoo attempted to create a directory, and Altavista produced their webspider-driven search engine. O'Reilly had a small directory of useful sites, but other than that the only way to find pages was by surfing from link to link, or by being given a URL out-of-band.

    I believe webspiders, and search engines built around data they collected, were the killer app that made the Web truly useful.

  5. Not too wrong... by Hoplite3 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    For the most part, they aren't too wrong. Sure they're obsessed with ISDN, but only because it seemed like the only fast internet solution at the time. Other predictions, like better web browsers, were inevitable anyway. And they certainly nailed the fact that the TCP/IP stack would become common equipment in the next generation of OSes.

    But they really liked usenet. The web forum has supplanted it, but they didn't really see that. http is the monster protocol that gobbled up almost all of the web functions. One poster talks about an application evolving that encapsulated all of the internet protocols in one easy interface. The modern webbrowser is pretty much that, with webmail, webforums, and built in (but less functional) ftp clients.

    There are some predictions that are still up in the air. Do people prefer moderated content? It's hard to say. Sure, lots of people read cnn.com, but lots of people post on unmoderated forums, or use myspace, or other "user-generated" content.

    I think the biggest thing they missed was data-mining. They thought people had to be involved in searching for information, in moderating content, etc in a centralized way. Using links, pageviews, user reviews, and user moderation some systems can organize themselves. (This isn't to cast doubt on experts. I still prefer a good editor to 1000 monkeys.)

    And I guess one more thing: the whole idea of "everybody" is silly on the net. If a million people use usenet, it's still useful. The fact that ten or a hundred times more people use some sort of webforum is in many ways irrelevant. Both exist side-by-side. The first list on the article listed online Diplomacy as a fun game on the net. It still exists, probably with about the same number of players. Not anywhere near some flashgame sites in traffic, sure, but that doesn't change anything.

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  6. Re:WWW by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Insightful
    None of them predict search engines - because they were a genuine and unexpected innovation.

    "Smart searches. The first intelligent agent software packages will emerge, allowing Net users to ask for a specific piece of information like "What is the population of Fiji?" or "How far is Saturn from the Sun?" An agent will go out on the Net , find the information, and return it without the user knowing the source."

    They didn't envision google, but they did imagine ask jeeves. Well, except a version of it that was useful.

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  7. Re:AOL by Vellmont · · Score: 2, Insightful


    If I recall correctly, AOL and AOL Users were always been considered bad. Even back then.

    AOL users were considered to be a mass invasion, especially on the insular world of USENET. There was always a problem with "newbies", often at the beginning of a school year, but the numbers were small, integrated rather quickly, and tended to be a lot more techno-savy than the AOL users turned out to be. Just look at USENET postings from around that era and you'll see people ranting about AOL users and this strange thing people used to call "netiquette".

    It's pretty interesting to say the least. It certainly was a culture clash as the net-wisened, mostly academic early adopters were hit with the hard reality of "the rest of the world" that was AOL. (And hell, even AOL was probbably the cream of the "rest of the world" crop). It took a while for the cultures to merge, but today if you post something along the lines of "How do I use my email?" on a forum discussing auto-repair, you'll look like a total moron to everyone.

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  8. Re:WWW by Prof.Phreak · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...the killer app that made the Web truly useful

    The problem is that back then, when someone setup a site, they put effort into it. Links usually meant something. Now a days... do links really matter? Not really. Any wikipedia page has hundreds of links---most irrelevant. This page alone has many links---most irrelevant. All internet usage is driven by Google. The problem is that google uses those -links- to rank its content. So google made links irrelevant---and the lack of good links will eventually make google irrelevant.

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