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YouTube Blocked in Brazil

keeboo writes "The popular video sharing site YouTube is now blocked in Brazil due to a local court decision last Thursday. The site was ordered to block the uploaded sex videos of Brazilian media starlet Daniela Cicarelli and, although it complied, many users kept re-uploading it to the site. After the failure of YouTube to keep the video off of the site, the domain was blocked nationwide at a DNS level. Predictably, many Brazilians are annoyed and I've started to receive even SPAMs protesting on this blocking. From the article: 'The case now goes automatically to a three-member panel of judges who will decide whether to make the order permanent and whether to fine YouTube as much as US$119,000 (euro91,000) for each day the video was viewable, said Rubens Decousseau Tilkian.'"

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  1. Of course! by Jason+Straight · · Score: 4, Funny

    Of course they are all angry it's blocked! They want to see the damn video!

  2. Work around? by swimin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If it was really on blocked at the DNS level, wouldn't running your own DNS server work? If youtube IP blocks were blocked, then obviously something more complicated would be needed. What about a proxy?

    1. Re:Work around? by AndroidCat · · Score: 5, Funny

      After all, the Intarnet was designed to route pr0n around a nuclear war--it has special tubes for that!

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    2. Re:Work around? by andreum · · Score: 5, Informative

      No, it was not a DNS block. Brasil Telecom (serving south, center-west and part of the north) blocked it, probably using route or packet filters against youtube IP addresses.

      There was a judge that ordered the video down and the remedy was decided by a justice from a state supreme court. Only it seems that the justice thought that he was ordering only the video down, because it seems he was told that carriers would just have to implement filters, which they are capable of doing (they are). According to an interview he gave, he thinks that those filters would only block that video.

      I wrote about that in my crappy vox blog here.

    3. Re:Work around? by odasnac · · Score: 3, Informative

      at the moment, getting to the site is irrelevant; it seems youtube doesn't want to search on 'cicarelli': http://youtube.com/results?search_query=cicarelli& search=Search

      uh, i was checking for research purposes.

    4. Re:Work around? by missy_diamond · · Score: 4, Informative

      Well, it doesn't seem to be blocked. I'm in Brazil and I'm seeing videos on YouTube right now.

    5. Re:Work around? by Osty · · Score: 5, Funny

      After all, the Intarnet was designed to route pr0n around a nuclear war--it has special tubes for that!

      Fallopian tubes?

    6. Re:Work around? by kennygraham · · Score: 5, Funny

      After all, the Intarnet was designed to route pr0n around a nuclear war--it has special tubes for that!

      Fallopian tubes?

      only people on slashdot need a wikipedia link to know what fallopian tubes are. after all, they're somewhat related to sex.
    7. Re:Work around? by hclyff · · Score: 3, Informative
      only people on slashdot need a wikipedia link to know what fallopian tubes are
      Them as well as 90% percent of men.
    8. Re:Work around? by Xymor · · Score: 3, Informative

      I just did a quick survey with my friends, and all users from Virtua, Velox and Speedy, that is, most of the ISPs in Brazil are not blocking youtube.
      I recently discovered that BrTurbo blocks, besides youtube now, nasa.gov and perform traffic shaping. They should have used the court decision as an excuse to stop users from using one of the biggest bandwidth consuming sites.

  3. The inevietable obligatory question. by DragonPup · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Working link? :p

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    1. Re:The inevietable obligatory question. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Is that all?

      So where's the money shot?

    2. Re:The inevietable obligatory question. by sumdumass · · Score: 3, Funny

      I think the problem revolves around the quickness of the sex. I dunno if it was just editing or if it was realy over that fast but it probably embarassed her and her boy/guy about how quick it was over with.

      I think it was the editing. That or she is missing out on something.

    3. Re:The inevietable obligatory question. by oddsends · · Score: 4, Informative

      Keytimes:
      2:26
      4:07

      It was pretty obvious what was going on in the water. (that's probably why they went in the water)

    4. Re:The inevietable obligatory question. by Otter · · Score: 4, Funny
      Bah, it doesn't even have anything explicit (other than a very blurry image of a couple making out in skimpy clothes).

      And almost all of it seems to have taken place at public places (i.e. beaches, parties etc.)

      I believe that wearing skimpy clothing to the beach is considered very scandalous in Brazil.

    5. Re:The inevietable obligatory question. by Optic7 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Those are mosquitos that transmit Dengue Fever, which is a tropical disease. They spoofed it as a PSA against mosquitos. Toward the middle of the clip, once they get in the water, they put up title cards saying "Dengue mosquitos reproduce in the water", "Don't leave any standing water around", etc, etc. Pretty funny. At first I was wondering WTF? But once the title cards came on it all made sense - they run actual PSAs there telling people not to leave standing water in their yards (in plant vases, etc) to control the mosquito population.

    6. Re:The inevietable obligatory question. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      >I find it strange that the video is considered as a "sex" video.

      You obviously watch too much porn.

      They are having sex. Just because there's no close up of penetration, don't mean it ain't happening. You kids today are spoiled, what with your internets and your bittorrents... back in my day, we used to walk ten miles up the hill backwards in the snow, just to catch a peek at a bra in the Sears catalog, and it would give us stroking material for a week.

  4. For the next time... by Jugalator · · Score: 3, Funny

    Try not make love in front of masses of people on a public beach.

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  5. Not so sure... by srgvie · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm not sure about this post.Im accessing youtube right now.

    1. Re:Not so sure... by srgvie · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yes, I'm in Brazil and I can access youtube normally.

    2. Re:Not so sure... by michelcultivo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I'm from Brazil and it's working ver fine (my IP is 201.92.3.130).

    3. Re:Not so sure... by keeboo · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yes, I'm in Brazil and I can access youtube normally.

      No problem, no need to worry.
      Please provide me your IP and I'll gladly forward it to the authorities so they can fix that.

    4. Re:Not so sure... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Sure! It's 127.0.0.1!

  6. Re:Funny by Jason+Straight · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why not? Look at the example we set when we allow charges to be pressed in NY against Russian companies, RIAA vs AllofMP3.

  7. Re:Funny by 42Penguins · · Score: 4, Informative

    I find it damn funny that a foreign country seems to think that it has power over a US company. I find it damn funny that a US company seems to think it has power over a foreign country.Examples: Take your pick from EA, Microsoft, **AA, and any of the other US entities that have tried suing The Pirate Bay.
  8. Agreed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People are so weird. While I am aware of the social and economic problems that sexual promiscuity can cause (disease, unwanted pregnancy, etc.), the fact remains that most of the living creatures on the planet have sex, including most humans. We are built for it and driven to it. It's just a simple fact of life. I really honestly don't understand why we think it is so horrible to capture it on film. If you don't like watching, then don't watch.

    If the video was filmed without her (and his) consent, then I will say too bad. If you are in public, people can see you. If you don't want to be filmed, get a room.

  9. Only 119,000 a day? by canyon289 · · Score: 4, Funny

    In international news, The Brazilian goverment has just recieved 10 shares of Google.

  10. Re:If the internet works as advertised by jrockway · · Score: 3, Informative

    www.youtube.com has address 208.65.153.251
    www.youtube.com has address 208.65.153.253
    www.youtube.com has address 208.65.153.241
    www.youtube.com has address 208.65.153.242
    www.youtube.com has address 208.65.153.245

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  11. As a brazillian (luckily ouside the country) by cadu · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I can't stop reiterating how the brazillian government and laws work in such a way they're always focused
    on proving that law works (specially if it involves a personality or something that could have a world impact, like a sex video of
    a famous brazillian star (that everyone has already viewed anyway)) while the semi-analphabet President keeps getting re-elected,
    while the parliament keeps voting (under winning majority, of course) their own promotions and their own extended vacations, while people are struggling to get jobs or grounded at their homes while criminals lurk freely in the city at anytime....

    "Brasil", *please* change for the good of your people, everytime you guys go investigate the flamed nail of a governor's wife a person dies or gets murdered

    thank you for showing again that our country (even with loads of raw materials, opportunity from external companies, massive workforce) is still not ready for raising the bar. thank you :(

  12. An exercise in herding cats by NorbrookC · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is an apt metaphor for this. My goodness, a well-known (sort of) "celebrity" gets videotaped having sex and somehow the video makes itself public! Shocked, shocked I am, that this would happen! You'd think that with so many of these incidents in the past that they might become just a bit cautious. Really, how hard is it to follow the simple ideas of:

    a) Don't videotape yourself having sex.

    b) If you do, invest in a safe. A very good one.

    c) Don't have sex in public. No, really, people have cellphones now to shoot footage of interesting things like that, besides the ever-popular video cameras.

    d) If you break up with someone, and you've taped yourselves having sex, get the tapes before walking out!

    Because once it's out, it's out. Court orders, forcing various sites to remove it just don't work. All it does is add to the publicity. I'd be willing to bet that within a week (if that) you'll see the video all over the binary groups, P2P networks, bittorrent, and various pr0n sites. Blocking one site is simply an attempt to bail out the Titanic with a bucket - nice try, but it won't work.

  13. Re:If the internet works as advertised by The+MAZZTer · · Score: 3, Informative

    For Windows users, the quick and dirty way to make use of these would be to add one to your C:\Windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts file. It's plain text so open it in Notepad or something. There's some documentation included in it. Changes take effect immediately once you save the file.

  14. Re:If the internet works as advertised by Mr2001 · · Score: 4, Informative

    4.2.2.2 is a good, easy-to-remember DNS server.

    Non-authoritative answer:
    Name: www.youtube.com
    Addresses: 208.65.153.245, 208.65.153.251, 208.65.153.253, 208.65.153.241
                        208.65.153.242

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  15. Of course we're angry by T'r'i'g'g'e'r'H'a'p' · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Here in Brasil we've got the crappiest Tv on the face of earth. For example there is a Mexican show called "Chaves" that is on air for more then a decade. And one of the latest most watched TV shows is Woody Woodpecker. This video is on the net for months and nothing was done. Maybe it is the tv channels trying to ban all the alternatives. And by the way, I can still watch YouTube.

  16. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 5, Funny

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  17. Re:Funny by sumdumass · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Considering Google has offices in brazil, I doubt the requests were even imposed across country boundries. The demand was probbly placed on the brazilian offices and let go at that. In that case, google (youtube) would be just as bound anywere it had offices because the brazil entity would/could be screwed.

  18. Brazilian Media says the blacklist is not true by origamy · · Score: 4, Informative

    According to the Brazilian media, the local courts have only asked Youtube to remove the video. There is no DNS blacklist or anything like that.

    Read yourself (in Portuguese) at Folha de Sao Paulo or, use Google Translator to translate it.

    "The version of that all the YouTube would have of being removed of air arrived to be propagated by some Brazilian sites and international agencies in the thursday, but it was contradicted by the Court of Justice. Justice only determined that the YouTube hinders the propagation it video with Daniela Cicarelli."

  19. Re:The inevietable obligatory question. (WHY?) by wolrahnaes · · Score: 3, Funny

    im guessing because Brazil already has a bad reputation for pornography. A media starlet whos supposed to be representative of it only encourages brazilian women to continue their slutty ways which also gives off a bad perception to the outside world. Wait....slutty women cause a BAD perception? I don't follow...
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  20. What, this video? by SaDan · · Score: 4, Informative
    1. Re:What, this video? by Xymor · · Score: 3, Funny

      What have we become my friends. The day is here where the law punishes a site for having porn, and the internets as we know it dies...

      I hope our children will forgive us, for leaving them a porn-less internets.

  21. Why, what, where, who, when by synthespian · · Score: 5, Informative

    You see, the thing is Brazil has an extremely convoluted legal jungle. It inherited this Portuguese culture of a love for all things legally convoluted and impenetrable. When Portugal colonized Brazil, for quite sometime the ruling elite was made of pretty much a bunch of aristocratic good-for-nothing lawyers/slackers that graduated from Coimbra University, in Portugal. The basic characteristic of such people were a basic lack of common sense as well as a despise for work. Instead of working, they made laws. And more laws. I mean, Portugal is notorious for having discovered America and then having ended up owing a huge amount of money to the Brits, as foreign debt, losing all the gold they had amassed, right? From that point on, they were basically a fishing village (until they joined the E.U.)

    In Brazil, there have been over 3,510,804 norms and regulations published in the last 18 years alone. This averages 534 per day or 783 per work day (source,in Portuguese, here) (If you read Spanish, you read Portugese). Any corporation in Brazil is bound to have a gigantic body of lawyers. The whole system is about to collapse, but there's no sign of a legal reform. There are too many laws, and too many stupid decisions. Until recently, it was possible to maneuver in legal waters to a point that even trivial matters went to the Supreme Court. By trivial, I mean a dog biting the neighbour. Can you even imagine that in the U.S of A.? Also, judges here have too much power, it would seem. Even when they are complete and utter imbecils, as seems to be the case. Were I on a Brazilian blog, BTW, I would not dare say I thought the judge was an imbecil, though.

    Also, there is such a thing in the civil code as "the right to one's own image." This means that you have the right to control the use of your image. However, it would seem that fucking in a public beach, when you are a celebrity of sorts would preclude to right to pledge the right to such right. Am I being clear? I mean, there have been all sorts of pornographic interpretation of individual rights. I recently witnessed a complete douchebag seriously threaten with a lawsuit a list moderator. The guy had been expelled because of bad behaviour, but he went on to take legal action on the ground his "right to expression" was being denied. I bet he's got a 50-50 chance of pulling it off, too. All sorts of weird shit like this in Brazil. Another fun one was a judge ruling spam was ok, because it didn't "waste any material resources" (that was circa 1996, though). Oh, yeah, and the Brazilian Constitution does not grant you the right to express yourslef anonymously. Huh.

    There have been cases, for instance, of cartoonists being sued because of portraying politicians in what was judged to be "excessive" ridicule. Now, either that is the job of a cartoonist that specializes in political satire or I just really should be just as well living in Iran, Cuba or China. All this means is that Brazil, sadly, has little garantees of real freedom of expression. Just about every newspaper has to waste a huge amount of money and time in courts. I wouldn't say it would be wise to have a blog and express one's opinion as openly as people do in the United States, in Brazil. Chances are, they'll sue your pants off. Unless you are working in a big media outlet, you're dead meat. In a more shameful example, when NYT reporter Larry Rother suggested in an article that Brazil's president had a penchant for heavy drinking, the president and his acolytes considered actually banning Mr. Rother form the country. They went bananas.

    We will live yet to see the day when Google gets blocked in Brazil, because they refused to remove a link to press material judged "offensive" to corrupt politicos. You'll see... There'll come a time I'll probably ask for political exile somewhere. When they ask me why, I'll answer: "Because living in Brazil fucks too much with my head and I'll become a mental case, sooner or later."

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  22. Re:The inevietable obligatory question. (WHY?) by bestiarosa · · Score: 3, Funny

    encourages brazilian women to continue their slutty ways In fact, my Brazilian 89-year-old grandmother still likes to act in pr0n movies. Besides, it is widely known /all/ Brazilian women are sluts.

    One should think before posting.
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