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YouTube Blocked in Brazil
keeboo writes "The popular video sharing site YouTube is now blocked in Brazil due to a local court decision last Thursday. The site was ordered to block the uploaded sex videos of Brazilian media starlet Daniela Cicarelli and, although it complied, many users kept re-uploading it to the site. After the failure of YouTube to keep the video off of the site, the domain was blocked nationwide at a DNS level. Predictably, many Brazilians are annoyed and I've started to receive even SPAMs protesting on this blocking. From the article: 'The case now goes automatically to a three-member panel of judges who will decide whether to make the order permanent and whether to fine YouTube as much as US$119,000 (euro91,000) for each day the video was viewable, said Rubens Decousseau Tilkian.'"
Of course they are all angry it's blocked! They want to see the damn video!
If it was really on blocked at the DNS level, wouldn't running your own DNS server work? If youtube IP blocks were blocked, then obviously something more complicated would be needed. What about a proxy?
Working link? :p
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I'm not sure about this post.Im accessing youtube right now.
Why not? Look at the example we set when we allow charges to be pressed in NY against Russian companies, RIAA vs AllofMP3.
It is a problem with people accessing through Brasil Telecom's network (one of the brazilian telcos). Since their DNS aren't recursive I couldn't check if this a DNS problem or a network problem.
People are so weird. While I am aware of the social and economic problems that sexual promiscuity can cause (disease, unwanted pregnancy, etc.), the fact remains that most of the living creatures on the planet have sex, including most humans. We are built for it and driven to it. It's just a simple fact of life. I really honestly don't understand why we think it is so horrible to capture it on film. If you don't like watching, then don't watch.
If the video was filmed without her (and his) consent, then I will say too bad. If you are in public, people can see you. If you don't want to be filmed, get a room.
In international news, The Brazilian goverment has just recieved 10 shares of Google.
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www.youtube.com has address 208.65.153.251
www.youtube.com has address 208.65.153.253
www.youtube.com has address 208.65.153.241
www.youtube.com has address 208.65.153.242
www.youtube.com has address 208.65.153.245
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If you look at all the crap that the french and other countries have done, is not so much to really block them, but to fine them. They are all looking to hit the deep pockets of Google.
All in all, I seriously doubt that even one judge thinks that Google has done wrong on any of these cases.
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If she's merely a starlet, isn't it probable that this is all just a publicity stunt to help thrust herself into full-blown stardom?
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I can't stop reiterating how the brazillian government and laws work in such a way they're always focused
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on proving that law works (specially if it involves a personality or something that could have a world impact, like a sex video of
a famous brazillian star (that everyone has already viewed anyway)) while the semi-analphabet President keeps getting re-elected,
while the parliament keeps voting (under winning majority, of course) their own promotions and their own extended vacations, while people are struggling to get jobs or grounded at their homes while criminals lurk freely in the city at anytime....
"Brasil", *please* change for the good of your people, everytime you guys go investigate the flamed nail of a governor's wife a person dies or gets murdered
thank you for showing again that our country (even with loads of raw materials, opportunity from external companies, massive workforce) is still not ready for raising the bar. thank you
Exactly, the door swings both ways. Parties in CountryA shouldnt beable to sue Parties in CountryB. Since we are not in a One World Government, it would only cause diplomatic problems and anamosity for all parties involved both directly and indirectly.
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Is an apt metaphor for this. My goodness, a well-known (sort of) "celebrity" gets videotaped having sex and somehow the video makes itself public! Shocked, shocked I am, that this would happen! You'd think that with so many of these incidents in the past that they might become just a bit cautious. Really, how hard is it to follow the simple ideas of:
a) Don't videotape yourself having sex.
b) If you do, invest in a safe. A very good one.
c) Don't have sex in public. No, really, people have cellphones now to shoot footage of interesting things like that, besides the ever-popular video cameras.
d) If you break up with someone, and you've taped yourselves having sex, get the tapes before walking out!
Because once it's out, it's out. Court orders, forcing various sites to remove it just don't work. All it does is add to the publicity. I'd be willing to bet that within a week (if that) you'll see the video all over the binary groups, P2P networks, bittorrent, and various pr0n sites. Blocking one site is simply an attempt to bail out the Titanic with a bucket - nice try, but it won't work.
Some interesting points:
I'm accessing youtube from Brazil right now. The judge's decision was not clear as to wheter only the video be censored for Brazil, or the whole site be blocked. Cicarelli's lawyer seems to think that the whole site should be blocked from all the 8 backbones that serve internet connectivity to Brazil. Nobody else seems to interpret the judge's decision that way. This issue will be clarified monday.
Renato Malzoni Filho is from a very rich and influent family (go figure). They are in fact fighting against any common sense, everybody in the media is saying how absurd is to try to block a whole site in the whole country. It could backfire. In fact, it already did; everyone in Brazil is downloading said video from other sources just because it was on the news.
The video is pretty boring, there are much more hardcore stuffs on brazilian dramas.
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They can blacklist her name and all the various permutations that crop up, employ measures similar to the copyright enforcement they're still working on by attempting to automatically recognize the particular video, and on and on. People will still find ways to put it right back. It's going to be an endless cat and mouse game. Can anyone else think of a way to realistically keep the video off YouTube without moderating the whole shooting match?
The real problem is that their are thousands, if not millions of people whose attention is fixated on this video and they'll keep trying to distribute it. The only way this is going to go away is when people lose interest . . . which isn't going to happen any time soon now that there's constant media coverage because she was foolish enough to file suit. Daniela's best bet is to get over herself and take advantage of the fact she's now a world-wide household name. Paris Hilton wasn't nearly as famous until her sex tapes and look at how much she's been raking in ever since. Welcome to celebrity, Daniela--your privacy is now forfeit.
4.2.2.2 is a good, easy-to-remember DNS server.
Non-authoritative answer:
Name: www.youtube.com
Addresses: 208.65.153.245, 208.65.153.251, 208.65.153.253, 208.65.153.241
208.65.153.242
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Thats what I did, but it didn't work, as you can see in my other post (sibling to yours). I can't even ping or telnet (port 80) to one of the IPs. Seems the traffic is blocked.
Here in Brasil we've got the crappiest Tv on the face of earth. For example there is a Mexican show called "Chaves" that is on air for more then a decade. And one of the latest most watched TV shows is Woody Woodpecker. This video is on the net for months and nothing was done. Maybe it is the tv channels trying to ban all the alternatives. And by the way, I can still watch YouTube.
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Considering Google has offices in brazil, I doubt the requests were even imposed across country boundries. The demand was probbly placed on the brazilian offices and let go at that. In that case, google (youtube) would be just as bound anywere it had offices because the brazil entity would/could be screwed.
According to the Brazilian media, the local courts have only asked Youtube to remove the video. There is no DNS blacklist or anything like that.
Read yourself (in Portuguese) at Folha de Sao Paulo or, use Google Translator to translate it.
"The version of that all the YouTube would have of being removed of air arrived to be propagated by some Brazilian sites and international agencies in the thursday, but it was contradicted by the Court of Justice. Justice only determined that the YouTube hinders the propagation it video with Daniela Cicarelli."
Is that they so easily did this. There had to have been someone, somewhere, or something with a plan already in place to block specific Internet traffic from Brazil. It's not China fer Chrissakes!
Why not just use Google Translate to "translate" Youtube?
Quite simple, really. Not sure if Youtube's videos will work (which would make it a useless workaround), but translating from (for example) Chinese Simplified to English will usually ensure you get non-altered text (it being a different character set the engine's looking for and all. You could also technically use one of the following IP's if it's just blocked at the domain level (Youtube's linking seems to be all relative):
208.65.153.242
208.65.153.245
208.65.153.251
208.65.153.253
208.65.153.241
And then there's the obligatory mention of Tor.
Yes, I also realize that my first method is cruelly aligned to anglophones.
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YouTube Its not blocked (just checked again) and this whole thread is a waste of time.
Cicarelli lawyers said bullshit as it would block google in Brazil, of course court order dimissed it and just asked google to comply.
Oh, give it a rest. If The Pirate Bay (or any company) does business with Americans in America, then they may be prosecuted in America for any laws they break. They may also be prosecuted in Russia for any Russian laws they break. It's not as if America or any other country tried to enforce their own laws in foreign courts.
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The windfall comes for companies that see their stock go up because they stand to win the lawsuit, even though they won't ever get the payoff. That's the fault of stupid investors. The lawyers aren't tricking organizations such as the RIAA into sueing, the RIAA member corps. are bragging about the potential gains from the lawsuits in their prospecti, boasting about how much their IP is worth, and the real trickery is happening in the stock market.
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You see, the thing is Brazil has an extremely convoluted legal jungle. It inherited this Portuguese culture of a love for all things legally convoluted and impenetrable. When Portugal colonized Brazil, for quite sometime the ruling elite was made of pretty much a bunch of aristocratic good-for-nothing lawyers/slackers that graduated from Coimbra University, in Portugal. The basic characteristic of such people were a basic lack of common sense as well as a despise for work. Instead of working, they made laws. And more laws. I mean, Portugal is notorious for having discovered America and then having ended up owing a huge amount of money to the Brits, as foreign debt, losing all the gold they had amassed, right? From that point on, they were basically a fishing village (until they joined the E.U.)
In Brazil, there have been over 3,510,804 norms and regulations published in the last 18 years alone. This averages 534 per day or 783 per work day (source,in Portuguese, here) (If you read Spanish, you read Portugese). Any corporation in Brazil is bound to have a gigantic body of lawyers. The whole system is about to collapse, but there's no sign of a legal reform. There are too many laws, and too many stupid decisions. Until recently, it was possible to maneuver in legal waters to a point that even trivial matters went to the Supreme Court. By trivial, I mean a dog biting the neighbour. Can you even imagine that in the U.S of A.? Also, judges here have too much power, it would seem. Even when they are complete and utter imbecils, as seems to be the case. Were I on a Brazilian blog, BTW, I would not dare say I thought the judge was an imbecil, though.
Also, there is such a thing in the civil code as "the right to one's own image." This means that you have the right to control the use of your image. However, it would seem that fucking in a public beach, when you are a celebrity of sorts would preclude to right to pledge the right to such right. Am I being clear? I mean, there have been all sorts of pornographic interpretation of individual rights. I recently witnessed a complete douchebag seriously threaten with a lawsuit a list moderator. The guy had been expelled because of bad behaviour, but he went on to take legal action on the ground his "right to expression" was being denied. I bet he's got a 50-50 chance of pulling it off, too. All sorts of weird shit like this in Brazil. Another fun one was a judge ruling spam was ok, because it didn't "waste any material resources" (that was circa 1996, though). Oh, yeah, and the Brazilian Constitution does not grant you the right to express yourslef anonymously. Huh.
There have been cases, for instance, of cartoonists being sued because of portraying politicians in what was judged to be "excessive" ridicule. Now, either that is the job of a cartoonist that specializes in political satire or I just really should be just as well living in Iran, Cuba or China. All this means is that Brazil, sadly, has little garantees of real freedom of expression. Just about every newspaper has to waste a huge amount of money and time in courts. I wouldn't say it would be wise to have a blog and express one's opinion as openly as people do in the United States, in Brazil. Chances are, they'll sue your pants off. Unless you are working in a big media outlet, you're dead meat. In a more shameful example, when NYT reporter Larry Rother suggested in an article that Brazil's president had a penchant for heavy drinking, the president and his acolytes considered actually banning Mr. Rother form the country. They went bananas.
We will live yet to see the day when Google gets blocked in Brazil, because they refused to remove a link to press material judged "offensive" to corrupt politicos. You'll see... There'll come a time I'll probably ask for political exile somewhere. When they ask me why, I'll answer: "Because living in Brazil fucks too much with my head and I'll become a mental case, sooner or later."
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When women do it they're called sluts when men do it they're called heroes. I doubt you're any exception, so well done for propagating this stigma against women.
You are trying to blame Portugal and the Portuguese culture for Brasil's underachievements and flaws, which is a bit silly and ignorant, to say the least. For example, you claim that Brazil's legal system is "extremely convoluted" due to being inherited from the Portuguese legal system. Yet, you fail to mention that Brazil is an independent nation since 1822, that the country adopted a government and legal system from states like Great Britain and the Austrian empire and since then it already lived through three revolutions, which once more changed the country's government and legal system. If that wasn't enough, when Brazil gain it's independence it was little more than a few colonies in the coast and only after that did the colonization of the region got up on it's feet and it was only since then that the country started forming. Counting with the help of 5 million immigrants from places like Japan, European and even from arab countries. Didn't they contributed to Brazil's current situation? Of course they do and obviously more than some portuguese colonist from the 17th and 18th century.
So, in the end what you are trying to do is dump Brazil's problems and underachievements onto a whole different nation which didn't took any part on Brazil's formation and growth and only shared a common origin. Moreover, you are trying to blame a whole different nation for Brazil's problems even though it was Brazil who opted to create the mess it's in and after it's fair share of fresh starts. When will Brazil assume the responsibility for it's own state?
If that wasn't enough, some brazilians have the habit of blaming Portugal for Brazil's problems even though Portugal doesn't suffer from any of them. For example, one frequent accusation is that Brazil's crime problem is due to Portugal. Yet, Portugal is one of the safest countries in the EU. Another is that Brazil's rampant corruption is due to Portugal. Yet, Portugal is one of the world's least corrupt countries (TI ranks Portugal at 26) while not only Brazil lags behind but it is also getting worse every year (TI ranks Brazil at 70, tied with Ghana and Senegal).
Another thing which I find pathetic is that there are brazilians who blame Portugal for Brazil's shortcomings with a blink of an eye and yet they don't seem to remember Portugal's alleged overbearing influence when they talk about Brazil's success stories. When is Portugal quoted on Brazil's space program or even in Curitiba's urban planning and transportation system example to the world? Heck, even Brazil's success in sports like football. Those are prime examples of Brazil's excellence. Where is Portugal's influence there?
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