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Dell's Secret Linux Fling

Slagged writes "The Register has up an article on Linux-based Dell systems being sold in China. While Microsoft quashed an attempt by Dell to create a market for Linux PCs in the U.S., such restrictions are not the case in Asia. From the article: 'Fifteen months ago our own Ashlee Vance, who broke the news of the first break-up in 2001, proved how hard it is to buy a PC from Dell without Windows. Not pre-loaded with Linux mind you - but simply a bare bones box. But far away from the prying eyes of Steve Ballmer, romance is blossoming. An eagle-eyed reader found the fruits of the union, brazenly on display in a Beijing subway.' The article has pictures of the advertisements, which offer Dell PCs preloaded with 'Red Flag Linux'."

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  1. Aim at foot, fire when ready. by caluml · · Score: 5, Funny
    But far away from the prying eyes of Steve Ballmer, romance is blossoming.

    Well, sticking it all over the front page of one of the largest tech sites means it will get his full attention now.

    1. Re:Aim at foot, fire when ready. by camperdave · · Score: 3, Funny

      Well, sticking it all over the front page of one of the largest tech sites means it will get his full attention now.

      Thus lending a whole new, and unintended meaning to the term Red Flag Linux: "Red Flag! Linux"

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  2. Hard to buy a bare pc...really? by Gr33nNight · · Score: 5, Informative

    Right before Christmas, I found an awesome deal for a Dell PC in their Small Business section. I configured it, added it to my cart and obviously found out I could not de-select Windows. So I called them up and the customer service rep saw my order and promptly removed Windows for me, saving about $50. 2 weeks later my PC arrived with freedos. Seems easy enough for me. Maybe it was because it was Small Business and not home.

    1. Re:Hard to buy a bare pc...really? by nine-times · · Score: 5, Informative

      You actually can configure a desktop or notebook without Windows directly from their web site. The selection is more limited, and it's harder to find, but Dell will sell you a system with FreeDOS instead of Windows.

    2. Re:Hard to buy a bare pc...really? by symbolset · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I've seen this before, and I didn't believe it, so I clicked your notebook link.
      The page you requested may no longer exist on Dell.com

      hmm...

      The desktop link still works right now though.

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    3. Re:Hard to buy a bare pc...really? by multipartmixed · · Score: 4, Funny

      Your PC came with freedos?

      Like inside the case, or were they still in the bag? Barbecue, or plain?

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  3. Red Flag Linux... by tehSpork · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Would it kill them to find an original name?

  4. Re:Lawl by Gerald · · Score: 5, Funny

    Does linux offer something similar to a HOSTS file?

    The HOSTS file is completely different in Linux. It's spelled with lower-case letters.

  5. Nothing Clandestine About It by Pakup · · Score: 5, Informative

    Nothing at all.

    Just look at Dell's Chinese website: there, right in the middle, amongst all those Chinese characters, you'll see the caozuo xitong ("operating system") listed in clear Roman letters: Linux.

    http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/features. aspx/dimen_c521?c=cn&cs=cndhs1&l=zh&s=dhs

    (The stuff at the top says Dell "recommends the use of" XP Professional.)

  6. Hard to get a Dell with no OS? by fudgefactor7 · · Score: 5, Informative

    No it's not. I have one. OptiPlex GX280n. The "n" is for "no OS", it does come with a CD of FreeDOS, but other than that, you're on your own. You can see their newer versions of the "n" series by clicking this link http://www1.la.dell.com/content/products/compare.a spx/optix_n?c=pr&l=en&s=bsd

  7. Dell and Linux for corp customers mainly by flyingfsck · · Score: 3, Informative

    I have bought hundreds of Linux machines from Dell. For a corporate customer it isn't an issue.

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  8. Might want to be careful there. by Kadin2048 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Unless you have a very strange or old volume license agreement with Microsoft (different than every other volume license I've ever seen), what you are doing isn't legit. You can't install volume or corporate-license Windows on bare hardware; the hardware has to have some sort of Windows license on it first. I don't think Microsoft sells unlimited-install licenses that entitle you to put XP onto totally bare hardware. It's their way of cooperating with the big VARs; this is one of the reasons why you never see a big company with white-box PCs, even though any reasonably-sized organization with its own IT department could go to Taiwan and get their own equipment for half of what Dell charges. Only the gear that comes with a license sticker on it from the factory is eligible to have corporate images put onto it. (Which really makes me question the utility of those corporate licenses, but I guess that's because I'm not in management.)

    Dell is pretty clear about this on their n-Series page, as it states in bold type: "It is not a Microsoft operating system and is not qualified for Windows licensing use under any existing Microsoft Volume Licensing Program (OPEN, Enterprise, etc.) Customers interested in a Microsoft® Windows® solution should purchase a Dell desktop pre-loaded with Windows XP Professional."

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  9. Re:Dell is evil! by csplinter · · Score: 3, Informative

    What are you talking about?! We have hundreds of Dells of different types were I work and I've never seen one welded or riveted shut. I've seen rivets used in their construction but, not used to keep you from getting inside. I think you are mistaken. I know those Dells can be pretty tricky to open sometimes because they have weird case designs but given enough time I have not encountered one I could open with a screw driver or my bare-hands. Maybe I'm wrong, whats the model number on the machine your talking about?

  10. huh by way2trivial · · Score: 3, Informative

    I always use
    www.dell.com/linux

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