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Microsoft Offers Peek At Next-Gen CRM

4foot10 writes "As reported by VARBusiness.com, Microsoft's next release of its Dynamics CRM application, code-named 'Titan', is moving a little closer to completion. Today, the vendor is making the new software, which uses a single code base to support on-premise and software-as-a-service deployments, available to several hundred business partners for testing, giving them an early start on developing complementary solutions."

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  1. What's a CRM? by seebs · · Score: 5, Funny

    For those of us who haven't eaten alphabits in a few years, what's a CRM, and why do we care?

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    1. Re:What's a CRM? by Henry+2.0 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Customer Relationship Management.

    2. Re:What's a CRM? by Meatloaf+Surprise · · Score: 5, Funny

      Manages customer relations, duh

    3. Re:What's a CRM? by Henry+2.0 · · Score: 5, Informative

      From Wikipedia

      Customer relationship management (CRM) is a broad term that covers concepts used by companies to manage their relationships with customers, including the capture, storage and analysis of customer information.

      There are three aspects of CRM which can each be implemented in isolation from each other:

      • Operational CRM- automation or support of customer processes that include a company's sales or service representative
      • Collaborative CRM- direct communication with customers that does not include a company's sales or service representative ("self service")
      • Analytical CRM- analysis of customer data for a broad range of purposes
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    4. Re:What's a CRM? by mean+pun · · Score: 5, Funny
      Manages customer relations, duh

      You mean it sends them a Xmas card, goes to visit them from time to time, and if they are really good customers it takes them to dinner sometimes? Or is it more like the kind of software that walks into their shop and says `Really nice place you have here, pity if it would burn, eh? Luigi here is really disappointed with your negative attitude to us.'?

    5. Re:What's a CRM? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Ok, that sounds great ... but what does it DO?

    6. Re:What's a CRM? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Crap Released by Microsoft

    7. Re:What's a CRM? by SeaFox · · Score: 3, Funny

      I thought it was Cranial Rights Management. A new way to keep you from enjoying the portions of copyrighted music you remember in your head.

    8. Re:What's a CRM? by Linker3000 · · Score: 5, Funny

      CRM is one of a broad range of software applications that can be purchased off the shelf, obtained through Open Source channels or implemented by a software consultancy firm that spends a lot of time with you to determine your needs, develops a draft spec, agrees a stonkingly large fee and then sends a team of developers to live with you for many months, drinking your coffee, attempting to get off with the secretaries and hacking your vending machines.

      Soon, the consultancy company realises they have underestimated the complexity of your requirements and that it is going to take much longer to implement, but they demand more money and time on the basis that YOU have changed the spec. After an extended period of development, a highly-personalised software application is handed over to you and you soon discover that it works pretty much to specification but with quite a few rough edges that will be "dealt with as part of the 5-year snags process".

      The system is so complex to manage that the only people who can support it are the original developers - but they are mostly working elsewhere on other projects by now or have left to become 'independent consultants' advising other customers who are having terrible problems getting their CRM system to work properly due to poor implementation.

      Even though the software consultancy firm cannot support your system to your satisfaction, you are locked into a support contract that means you pay an annual fee to them for the rest of your life. Eventually you begin to abandon parts of the software "'cos it's quicker and easier to do it in a spreadsheet".

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  2. What's a customer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Manages customer relations, duh"

    Well thank God that open-source doesn't have that problem.

  3. and after *that*... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    "which uses a single code base to support on-premise and software-as-a-service deployments"

    And after that, they're going to leverage their synergies!

  4. with Microsoft CRM by oohshiny · · Score: 3, Funny

    With Microsoft CRM, your customer relations can be as good as Microsoft's.

    (Note: the monopoly CRM module, including customer abuse and forced upgrades, costs extra.)

  5. Typical CRM by Psychotria · · Score: 3, Funny

    Microsoft CRM (Customer relationship management). Interesting idea. WGA. Deciding what can and cannot be played/viewed. Having a great help-desk that only ever gets used because people buy a new video card and need to reactivate Windows. In fact, I didn't even know that Microsoft had customer relationships (apart from, we give you a piece of crappy software and you pay us to try and use it). Last time I was involved in Microsoft CRM, it went something like this:

    Me: Hi. I just bought a new video card and now Windows is asking me to reactivate.

    MS: Thanks for calling Microsoft. How can we help?

    Me: I just bought a new video card and now Windows is asking me to reactivate. How do I do this?

    MS: Thanks for calling Microsoft. Your call is important to us. All our operators are busy at the moment. Please hold the line. **Microsoft jingle plays**

    MS Rep: Thanks for calling Microsoft. How can I serve you today?

    Me: Err... I need to reactivate Windows

    MS Rep: How many computers do you currently have Windows installed on?

    Me: None, it's broken

    MS Rep: The Microsoft(TM)(R)(C)(Patent Pending) XP Operating System is for use on one computer only. Because your copy is not installed on a computer, you are in violation of the EULA subclause 287.111, where it clearly says that you must install Windows (TM) (C) (Patent Pending) on ONE computer only.

    Me: Yes, I am trying to install it on this computer

    MS Rep: You cannot install it on that computer because you are in violation of the EULA by not having it installed on any computer at all

    Me: ....

  6. Re:Wikipedia says: by cyxxon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Nah, it's not a marketing term, and not something even remotely connected to DRM. I am a CRM consultant (though not dealing with Microsoft's implementation, but rather SAP). Among the various aspects of business software, CRM is the part that helps a company get new contracts and keep good relations to their old customers. It is indeed (among others things) responsible for sending out Xmas cards, but also for sending new offers to old customers. You can build web shops for B2B and B2C with it, and you can track which of your customers are how "valuable" (i.e. purchase what and how much of it) and are the best targets for new campaigns for new products. This is a booming industry, my company (Germany, ~170 consultants) is currently looking for CRM consultants because everybody and their mother is realizing they need better ways to manage their customers then simply keeping them as debitors in their Enterprise Resource Planning system or as contacts in an Outlook system.

  7. What's a CRM? Basically a ticket management system by Colin+Smith · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you work in support you probably use something almost identical already. You know; RT, OTRS, Bugzilla, Remedy.

    A CRM usually has a couple of add ons though. A link to a comprehensive database of customers which records all interactions with them via email, telephone, snail mail etc so that marketing can look for purchase preferences to send them junk mail and customer services can make sure customers are happy rather than annoyed.

    The other thing is usually a workflow add on (many ticket systems already have this) so that you can take a customer request through various business processes, be that a sale, a problem resolution, whatever. It makes sure that they eventually get through to the end without dropping through the cracks.

    There's various other features depending on the vendor but you can pretty much roll your own CRM system using some of the open source ticket management systems, they just need a little tweaking.

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  8. Try vTigerCRM by DG · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Open Source, php/Apache/mySQL based, not perfect but way better than any of the offerings from the Borg.

    DG

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