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AMD Aims At New Standard for Motherboards

alexwcovington writes "CBC reports that AMD is launching DTX, a new motherboard layout about the size of micro-ATX. Their goal is to provide a small, energy efficient board that's compatible with as much hardware as possible. In the DTX, they're hoping to produce a new standard for desktops, and somewhat reverse the decline in consumer interest. From the article: 'Most desktops still have motherboards that operate using a standard laid out in 1995 by Intel called ATX, which stands for Advanced Technology Extended. ATX was designed to allow everything from memory cards to mouse ports to have a standardized spot alongside the central processing unit on a typical desktop motherboard. While there have been other standards since, ATX remains the most common standard for desktops, though its design is not suited for smaller, more energy-efficient desktops, AMD said.' Ars Technica has further details on the board."

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  1. hmm BTX style? by master_kaos · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Thing this will follow the form of BTX formfactor? I know in the summary it says to be compatible with as much hardware as it can - so I sure hope that includes the Case. The only way it will catch on is if it will fit in the current cases. With all the overclocking and heating and whatnot, we defiently do want faster and cooler hardware, so hopefully this will catch on.

  2. Re:"standardized spots" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    The PS2 mouse and keyboard ports were a boondoggle for sure. Who came up with the idea of making a connector appear round, if it can only be put in one way? I've seen too many systems destroyed by shorted mouse pins. At least the AT keyboard connector had big, sturdy pins.

    At least USB eventually came around and saved us all from PS2.

  3. How about the vertical by Xenolith · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I see how this layout is smaller in the X and Y direction. Micro-ATX and mini-ITX have already conquered that, however. We need to get rid of the add-on cards, so it is smaller in the vertical. Expansion sockets, not slots, would seem to be the answer.

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  4. Put the CPU on the backside! by miffo.swe · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I cant for my life understand why all the computer manufacturers insist on having the CPU inside the box. Its the worst possible place to cool it. Not only is it hot in the box, its also very hard to get a good airflow going. By placing the CPU on the backside of the motherboard and let it protrude out from the case it would be very feasable to use passive cooling. One 10x20 cm cooling plate with fins is more than enough to cool away 120w if there is a free flow of air.

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  5. Re:"standardized spots" by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Who came up with the idea of making a connector appear round, if it can only be put in one way?

    DIN Connectors go back decades as a standard connector for audio equipment. This standard connector style showed up in the early computer world in the form of serial interfaces known as "SIO ports". For some reason (probably the wide availability of parts), IBM decided to use the DIN connector for their detachable keyboards.

    When IBM redesigned the computer as the PS/2, they moved to the smaller DIN standard known as "mini-DIN" rather than devising a new connector. In addition, they added a dedicated mouse port to the PC, which helped solidify the mouse as a standard PC interface. Since the keyboard and mouse were both input devices, IBM felt it made sense to unify them into a single connector. Thus the keyboard connector was transferred to the mouse.

    This is how we got the PS/2 mouse and keyboard interface we all know today. Unfortuantely, IBM hadn't considered that anyone would want to hotplug their mouse or keyboard like they had been doing with serial cables. As a result, the PS/2 standard was woefully inappropriate for the original task. Thus the USB standard was developed to provide a single, unified, hot-pluggable connector for all manner of serial device. (Including mice and keyboards.) The result is actually quite good, even though USB is a pain for hardware designers to implement.
  6. How about including single voltage power? by Skapare · · Score: 3, Interesting

    How about including in this design the single voltage power supply design that Google wants? You can read the original Slashdot discussion here.

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  7. Poorly chosen press photos by ozbird · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When you read a press release talking about a new, smaller form factor, you don't expect to see a photo like this.

    While those in the know realise that this is just demonstrating that you can make four motherboards from one standard circuit board panel, your average guy is going to say "holy crap, that's HUGE!".

    That said, you can have a bit of caption fun with it, e.g.: "AMD announces eight-core DTX motherboard."

  8. Checkout Norhtec for fanless... by bagofbeans · · Score: 4, Interesting

    See the $120 (1 off) tiny PC at http://www.norhtec.com/products/mcjr/index.html and make the CPU a VIA Eden 1.2GHz, the GPU/subsystem a VIA CX700M with MPEG2/4 hardware decode, USB2... and you have a desktop replacement that is fanless because it draws under 20W total with HDD.

    It's called Microclient Sr., and announced at CES this week.

    If you want onboard DVD/CD player/burner, there are other versions that are bigger to accommodate a slimline DVD.

    I have a Microclient Jr., and it is acceptable with XP and zippy with Win98 - not bad for 200MHz and 8W!

    Give it a couple of years, and desktop cases will be just for the gamers and people needing a lot of cards of storage.