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How Can We Convert the US to the Metric System?

thesolo asks: "Despite past efforts of the 1970s and 1980s, the United States remains one of only three countries (others are Liberia and Myanmar) that does not use the metric system. Staying with imperial measurements has only served to handicap American industry and economy. Attempts to get Americans using the Celsius scale, or putting up speed limits in kilometers per hour have been squashed dead. Not only that, but some Americans actually see metrication efforts as an assault on 'our way' of measuring. I personally deal with European scientists on a daily basis, and find our lack of common measurement to be extremely frustrating. Are we so entrenched with imperial units that we cannot get our fellow citizens to simply learn something new? What are those of us who wish to finally see America catch up to the rest of the world supposed to do? Are there any organizations that we may back, or any pro-metric legislators who we can support?"

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  1. I'll let you into a secret about Britain by skinfitz · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...nobody here uses metric. Everything is in miles rather than kilometres such as all of our traffic signs for distance and speed and I don't know anyone who uses metres and centimetres for measurements - it's always feet and inches when buying anything in hardware stores for example.

    1. Re:I'll let you into a secret about Britain by oni · · Score: 4, Interesting

      metric is taught in school

      It's taught in school in the US as well. I can't tell from your comment - did you not know that?

      The problem in the US is, we don't actually use it outside of school (science classes mostly) so most people fall back on what's all around them. It's kind of sad. The military uses it though, and some large percentage of Americans have been in the military (in case you couldn't tell, ha ha). The M-16 was designed to be exactly 1 meter long so that every soldier could have a familiar reference. It's still what I think of when I need to estimate meters.

    2. Re:I'll let you into a secret about Britain by FireFury03 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Having said that, if somebody asks my weight or height, I'd tell them in stones and feet, so we still have a way to go.

      Well, I guess it depends on what situations you need to know things like weight for. I'm a windsurfer and I would always quote my weight in kilos since it makes working out things like volume of water displaced much easier (1 kilo == 1 litre of fresh water).

      And whilst I may know specific values (my height, weight, etc) in imperial, I have no idea how to do calculations with those values. If I'm going to calculate anything I use metric (how many ounces in a pound? pounds in a stone? I have no idea - I'd have to look them up).

      Also, add the lack of standardisation in imperial units - the Americans like to call them "English units", but the gallons (rarely, these days) used in England aren't the same size as the American gallons...

      There is a drive to convert road signs to metric - again, partly because of our EU membership - but there's no easy, straightforward way to do it.

      They managed it in Ireland without any real problems, ISTR the new signs just have "Km/h" marked on them below the speed. All the cars have both KM/h and MPH marked on the speedo (although I must admit that the KM/h markings on my car are a bit too small to read while you're going along the road). I for one would welcome a complete switch to kilometres though - it would make working out stuff like fuel consumption much easier (which is still quoted in miles per gallon despite the fact that fuel hasn't been sold in gallons for at least 20 years, not to mention the disparity between US gallons and British gallons which means you're never entirely sure which units are being used).

  2. United Kingdom by denominateur · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm currently studying Physics in the UK but come from one of the most SI countries in the world, Luxembourg. When talking to people I discovered that even though the UK has officially gone metric most people still think in imperial units when it comes to body weight and height, liquid volumes, speeds and distances (long and short) and those who I asked said they found it hard to picture 170cm or 70kg, very common numbers which I find extremely natural, much preferring "feet/inches" and "stones".

    I must admit however that the foot is a very appealing unit in that it can be easily measured using common body parts such as the hand-elbow distance or the foot.

    I think the problem is that the parents who grew up with imperial units use them in day to day conversation, hence associating different benchmark sizes with specific words in their children's developing minds, making a natural transition to metric quite difficult, but certainly not impossible... i guess the situation will improve once britain follows ireland in getting the traffic system metricized.

  3. Canada. by Grey+Ninja · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Canada switched to the metric system decades ago. Being a British commonwealth for such a long time, of course most of us were well accustomed to Imperial units. I still remember as a kid, how my Mom was one of the holdouts for the Imperial system for a long time. She would tell me to get a quart or gallon of milk, and I would have to ask her how many liters that was.

    The thing is that the metric system is officially used everywhere. Road signs, groceries, public schools, the works. The only basis that we have for even knowing the Imperial system is our parents. I've used the metric system my entire life. I know my height and weight in feet and lbs, but couldn't tell you what it is in metric units. But I can guess fairly accurately how much something weighs in kilograms, but I'm not so good with pounds. Likewise, I'm more comfortable with measuring things in meters, rather than feet.

    A rather amusing story though. I am currently living in the US, trying to get by without using the old ways. I am not always successful. But I try. Anyways, I was on the phone with my Mom the other day, and she asked how warm it was here. I googled the answer, and got it in Fahrenheit (46F). I laughed, and said she would be right at home here, and gave her the answer in Fahrenheit without doing the conversion. I was rather amazed at her response. She told me that it's been so long since she's used the Imperial system that she's forgotten it. She honestly didn't remember what 46F was.

    Anyways, my point is that it doesn't matter if the older people don't use the metric system. Teach it to the young, and switch the entire country to the metric system on all official items. It will all sort itself out in time.

  4. Re:Funny, but lame by Spacelem · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Well, as a maths student, I would prefer to ban degrees and keep radians. Radians are actually useful to work with.

  5. Re:What's stopping you? by ytm · · Score: 5, Interesting
    While metric was designed for science, imperial was designed for "normal" use. While metric designates zero degrees and 100 degrees the freezing and boiling points of water, imperial ties them to a reasonable estimate for the coldest and warmest days in a temperate climate zone. Having a basic unit of measurement between a cm and a m (ie a foot) seems nicely convenient for measuring things at the size of an average human work product, given the size of our hands, feet, etc

    The argument that imperial is better for daily use is repeated here over and over. However I have been using metric system all my life and it is intuitive for me that where I live there is at least 30C in hot summer, about 20C in spring and 0C to -15C in winter (except January 2007). I can easily estimate dimensions of things in cm by looking at them, their weight in kg by trying to pick them up etc. I know how 500ml of beer will affect me and what will happen after four shots of 100g vodka glasses (or 8 x 50g, both are common).

    There is nothing special about imperial or metric system for daily use. You just have to be accustomed to it.

    A unit between cm and m exists: 1dm = 10cm = 0.1m, but is rarely used (at least here).

  6. Re:Metric Imperialism - Globalisation the goal? by SpanishArcher · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Well...most people here in europe thought "no matter what currency they give us....I will think internally in...say, Italian Lira, for as long as I shall live".

    Now, some 5 years after the EURO introduction, most people I know never make a conversion before judging prices, fees and such..
    It became part of our life like the older currency. It did have some economic effects at various levels, but that's another story.
    The important thing is that most people, even elderly that "you wouldn't know" assimilated the transition.

    I think you can do the same in the US.
    Come on, you have to make the last step...it's just a matter of feet...I mean meters! Meters!!

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