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Giant Rabbits To Feed North Korea

iamdrscience writes with news of an East German pensioner who breeds rabbits the size of dogs. Karl Szmolinsky won a prize for breeding Germany's largest rabbit, at 23 lbs., in 2006. News photos reached the North Koreans, who asked through their embassy whether Szmolinsky would be willing to sell them some as foodstocks — each rabbit yields about 15 lb. of meat. A deal was struck and Szmolinsky will be traveling to North Korea in April to help them set up a breeding program. (The photos in the article use the most extreme, contrived camera angles to make the rabbits look even more huge.)

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  1. Re:Seems like a make-work project... by tilandal · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Because dogs eat protein so that would defeat the purpose.

  2. Efficiency? by UOZaphod · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm not a vegetarian myself, but even this raises questions regarding the efficiency of such an operation.

    Is it more efficient to feed these rabbits vegetable matter to be converted to protein (which, according to the article, is what the diet of many N. Koreans is deficient in), or would it be better instead to grow protein-rich plants that can be consumed directly by the people?

    If the rabbits can consume grasses and other things that humans are unable to digest efficiently, and convert that into protein, then I suppose it would make sense.

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    1. Re:Efficiency? by shmurfect · · Score: 5, Insightful

      In terms of efficiency, it would be most efficient environmentally to have N. Koreans consume protein-rich vegetables directly, as each step through the food chain is about 10% efficient. This is why, if you look down the food chain, the biomass of plants and vegetables is exponentially greater than herbivores, as herbivores are exponentially greater than carnivores. At each step down the line, there is a tremendous waste of energy.

  3. May I be the first to say... by PapayaSF · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In Soviet North Korea, rabbits eat you!

    Seriously though, how absurd is it that anyone thinks this is going to make any difference: it's a Communist dictatorship. The government runs food production and distribution, so of course they don't have enough food. All the rabbits in the world won't change that. It's sad and absurd that the average North Korean is still paying the price for a government that ignores that basic fact, proven so thoroughly and with so many graves in the 20th century.

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    1. Re:May I be the first to say... by pyite · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Let me welcome to the Soviet States of America.

      Such comments are really nothing but an insult to people who actually did live in Communist Russia. I know some of them, myself, and likening the United States to Soviet Russia is such a laughable comparison that you should be ashamed. Many of these people used basically all the money they had to move to countries like the US.

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    2. Re:May I be the first to say... by deevnil · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Such comments are really nothing but an insult to people who actually did live in ...
      Whenever anybody compares the decline of civil liberty and freedom release patches there's always a whiner saying that comparing Bush to Hitler, or the PATRIOT Act to a country that has patriot act mentality and abuses it( or "losing freedom is like losing a leg" and someone with two legs always says, "that's an insult to people who have lost a leg." )...insults somebody.

      So what would you have people do, wait until it's too late. Wait until they really are being dragged out of their houses, do you honor oppression by waiting until the last minute when it is more appropriate to propose an analogy? I think they would want that.

  4. No need to do much research by TheLink · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Communism is just a precursor of Dictatorship.

    This is because Marx had this stupid idea of condoning or even encouraging violence as the way to achieve Communism.

    So when you have a "Communist" Revolution ala Marx, guess who ends up becoming leader of the country?

    The one who was willing AND able to exert the most violence.

    Yeah, that's right, most of the time you get Mr "Silence all Opposition".

    Marx's Communism is severely flawed because of this.

    You basically have to wait till you get taken over by a Benevolent Dictator, or the Evil Dictator hands power to nondictators, or Mr Dictator has a change of heart.

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  6. You got it the wrong way by Per+Abrahamsen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Dictatorship is a precursor to communism.

    Move specifically, the "dictatorship of the proletariat". It is in the official Marxist road to Communism, a temporary state of dictatorship that should lead to the promised land.

    Just about all self-declared Marxist regimes claimed to be the "dictatorship of the proletariat" state, being bright enough not to claim to the people that the current state of affairs was he best they could hope for. The one exception I know of was Albania, which at some point claimed to have reached "true Communism".

    It has been rough to get there, but those intellectuals that still dream of Communism have mostly reached the conclusion that any kind of dictatorship of temporarily suspension civil rights are *not* acceptable steps on the way. It just took a few (well, rather more than a few) million lives to get to that insight.

    Hopefully it will take less than that for the neo-Conservative to see that torture and other suspension of civil rights are not acceptable means to reach their goals, neither abroad or at home. Unless, of course, that is their goals.

    1. Re:You got it the wrong way by qbzzt · · Score: 4, Insightful

      > Do not blame an ideology for the people who believes in it.

      You mean, "don't judge it by what it has achieved in practice, almost every single time it was tried" (Kibbutzim worked better, but they are only inhabited by people who want to be there).

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  7. Rabbits can be a worthwhile food source by Marcion · · Score: 4, Insightful

    >Seriously though, how absurd is it that anyone thinks this is going to make any difference

    In Roman Britain Rabbits were an important food supplement. A large number could be easily be fed and cared for by the Children while the parents did more arduous agricultural tasks such as attempting to grow crops or maintain larger animals.

    Pretty bad that in 2006 we have come to this though, especially when the US and EU ploughing food back into the soil and African countries would dearly love to be able to have foreign food markets.

  8. It might help by HangingChad · · Score: 4, Insightful

    All the rabbits in the world won't change that.

    Maybe not but it certainly might help. Rabbits can survive on grass and crude silage, can be grown in relatively small areas and reproduce reliably. Faster than goats, the most widely eaten animal on the planet.

    Similar husbandry programs with cavia porcellus, guinea pigs to you, have helped many families lift themselves out of poverty in Peru and other areas in South America.

    Rabbits would be better suited to the colder climate of North Korea. The fur would provide a secondary revenue source. It may not sound like much but when you're dirt poor having meat to eat and furs to trade is big deal.

    How is this not a good thing? Why would you want to see the North Korean people starve just because their government is the asshat of the world? That's almost as silly as people hating all Americans because Bush is a douche bag. It's not like they elected that idiot in North Korea and there's growing evidence we didn't elect our idiot, either.

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  9. U.S. bureaucracy = North Korea? Yeah, right. by perfessor+multigeek · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Dude, here's a nickel, buy a clue. Sure, large bureaucracies cause inefficiencies but that is so far from the primary reason for North Korea's current situation it's absurd, in fact offensive, to make the comparison. You are seriously lacking in a sense of perspective.

    Go for it, son, define "large" for me. Give me some numbers. We have plenty of bureaucracies that are as large or far larger than the entire North Korean government, General Motors, for example, and while they may be inefficient, they do not leave millions of their own starving to death or subject to a high likelihood of torture or death. Equating the two is beyond wrong, it's flat out irresponsible.

    Those of us living in reality point, rather, to lack of accountability, lack of transparency, inefficient cross-communications, y'know, the stuff that us actual experts in industrial organization are always willing to explain to those clued enough to pay attention.

    You go out there and talk to some genuine experts in the reasons for North Korea's current state. Read up on, say, rule of law. See what energetically capitalist outlets like the Wall Street Journal have to say about the causes of North Korea's problems.Then come back and we'll have this chat again.

    Oh, and if you're so hyped on decentralization, tell me, what in the real world have you done to bring that about? Personally, I've been working at that for over twenty years, just testified this past week on government procedures to New York's city council. This wasn't so bad since I've been dealing with the senior relevant councilman since, oh, about two months since he was elected, back in '01.

    So, how about you. What have you accomplished?

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  10. Re:Correction... by MrNaz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Only on /. can uninformed political bickering be considered more interesting that GIANT FUCKING RABBITS! For God's sake people are you all insane? There's 23 pound rabbits on the loose and you're arguing over whether refugee would prefer to go to Europe or America? I want to hear about the rabbits and all I get in the comments are references to communism, a lecture on the life and times of Marx, nookular missiles and such trivial things. Seriously guys think of the rabbits!

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