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Canada May Lose Copyright Fair-Use Rights

DotNM writes with an article from the CBC reporting that the Canadian government is considering removing fair-use rights from Canada's copyright law. From the article: "Exacerbating the situation is intense pressure from the United States, where Canada is considered a rogue when it comes to copyright and intellectual property. It still hasn't ratified a 1997 World Intellectual Property Organization copyright treaty... Two of the most controversial issues are [DRM] and the closely related technological protection measures."

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  1. Fight.. by QuantumG · · Score: 5, Insightful

    now is the time for Canadians to get out there and tell their elected representatives that they don't want US copyright. Do it now, before your politicians trade your dental plan for a keg of beer for their meetings.

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    1. Re:Fight.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      It wont happen. Canadians will roll over and do what the USA tells them to do. They are the 51st state anyways.

      Inflammitory words bordering on Troll???? If it motivates only ONE of you to go out and flame the hell out of your government officials demanding they support actions that are for the people and not their corperate interests or just doing what thir USA masters tell them to do, then it will be worth it.

      Get off your arse, start yelling at the scumbags you have in power and force them to do YOUR bidding and not that of a forign and hostile government. (Yes, the USA should be considered hostile to othernations. we force our will on you at gunpoint.)

      This is from an American, who knows that change here in the states is futile. The Ultra rich and Corperations own our government lock-stock-and barrel. there is no chance in hell we will ever regain our government that was respected for over 100 years....

      We are doomed, dont let us sieze control of your country by dictating policies.

      Posting Anon to avoid being arrested for unpatriotic sentiment.

    2. Re:Fight.. by cyber-vandal · · Score: 2, Insightful

      They wouldn't stop an invasion though would they, just make it shitty for the invaders once they were there. And they'd be terrorists then so they'd have to shoot themselves.

    3. Re:Fight.. by Curtman · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Why do you think we voted out the Liberals?

      Because we're stupid. We have forgotten that the party that we just elected brought us Brian Mulroney, and free trade (without binding arbitration).
    4. Re:Fight.. by yoder · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yup, one man's terrorist is another's Freedom Fighter.

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      "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act!" -- George Orwell (Eric Arthur Blair)
  2. Seriously. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Do what you can to save your country. We already lost ours.

  3. what? by macadamia_harold · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Exacerbating the situation is intense pressure from the United States, where Canada is considered a rogue when it comes to copyright and intellectual property.

    You mean, "levy-paid-to-RIAA-on-all-blank-media-regardless-o f-use" Canada? Are we talking about the same country?

  4. Like anything by RichPowers · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's harder to get fair use rights back once you lose them. Better to fight now than fight later...

  5. Conservatives? Yeah, sure. by dsanfte · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The Conservative Party in Canada is always on about cutting government intervention in the economy, and then goes and supports legislative corporate welfare like Bill C60. They're clearly just out to make their media friends some more bucks.

    Sadly, the biggest lie circulating is that these changes will somehow better promote "Quebec culture". There's this unfounded belief out there that more and more "protections" and "rights for creators", at the expense of their customers, will result in more content. I just don't see it.

    The US has some of the most restrictive copyright legislation out there, and the slide of music sales has only just now been stemmed by paid downloads. Where are the creators and all the extra content those laws were supposed to encourage? Yeah, on Youtube.com, giving their stuff away for free, rendering all these laws moot.

    If the Canadian government really wants to promote Quebec culture, work with Google to put up a Canadian bilingual version of Youtube on Google.ca. This is a no-brainer, guys...

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    occultae nullus est respectus musicae - originally a Greek proverb
  6. The WTO by nurb432 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    is the most insidious thing going rght now. It has the potential to usurp most of our rights ( and not just IP type rights )

    One world order, here we come ( via the backdoor )

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  7. Copyright laws, eh? by tehSpork · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "It's a big black market effect and so instead of 25 per cent [of the market], it's eight per cent here. People are simply abandoning the marketplace altogether, and they've made the decision they'll just download the music and worry about how the artist gets paid later."

    If you're dealing with a major record label the artist barely gets paid anyway, I doubt they see the difference.

    Sounds like Canada's copyright law might be going the way of Australia's, eh. Pretty soon we'll all have to move to Sweden to be safe. Oh wait, that didn't work out so well for TBP now did it...

  8. More Criminals by nurb432 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Once you make the entire public criminals, its easier to strip them of the rest of their rights and control them.

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  9. Re:Intense pressure? by Tablizer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Canadians don't like to do anything the U.S. asks at the best of times, why would they start now? If anything, a request from the U.S. would have them do the opposite as an expression of patriotism.

    Don't undere$timate the power of lobbyi$t incentive$ on politicians.

  10. Who is calling who rogue here? by gd23ka · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I guess it really depends on the perspective here but I think allowing people
    to make copies of Maria Carey's preovulation noises is one thing - killing
    and maiming millions of innocent civilians and bystanders all over the globe
    is another.

  11. No problem by hammock · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't oppose this at all, however, first they have to refund the millions they have stolen by way of the blank media tax. As soon as I see some real money back that those motherfuckers stole from me when I bought backup media for my servers, we can talk about copyright reform.

    I am waiting to hear back from you.

  12. vote by FudRucker · · Score: 2, Insightful

    With your wallets that is, I have not bought a single music CD or movie in many years. I wish more would follow suit...

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    Politics is Treachery, Religion is Brainwashing
  13. Re:Intense pressure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Or the ability of a Canadian Conservative Government to get down on all fours and lick american boot.

  14. loose once and we' by ckedge · · Score: 4, Insightful

    JHC. We have to fight this all over again every fucking 1-4 years. Each time we win we only win for 1-4 years, and then we have to fight all over again.

    If they win once, just once, they've won. Period.

    How the fuck is this considered democracy? How are we supposed to prevent a perpetual slow glide down into tyrrany if they can keep passing more new laws forever and ever?

    Have you ever heard of a law being revoked or reversed?

  15. Imagine that. A Socialist gov eliminating fair .. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    play/use.

    Candadians, welcome to the American form of "Democracy", where the intangible "corpus" (corporations) has more rights than the tangible corpus (citizens).

    You, too, can enjoy Democracy in America. All you need are a few million $$$ for "campaign contributions".

    Oh, and don't forget to swear allegiance to Political Correctness, otherwise the Democrats will just take your money and ignore you.

  16. Re:Just another attempt to blame the US? by shaitand · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You think these are rights we still have in the US? Apparently you missed the part where the DMCA makes it illegal to excercise fair use rights if there is DRM in place.

  17. Same old story by troll+-1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Close observers of the file say all signs point to a new regime that will improve safeguards for major music, film and media companies and artists for unpaid use of their material, but neglect to make exemptions for personal use of copyrighted content.

    Bullshit! You can reform copyright laws all you want, people are still gonna record their favorite shows and share stuff on P2P. Sharing copyrighted content, for example, is at an all time high, in spite of its illegality and all those *IAA lawsuits.

    Remember the US Betamax case? Yeah, if these guys had their way VCRs would be illegal. The problem is that their business runs on a static model. They seem incapable of seeing the world differently.

    You can moralize all you want about the rights and wrongs of technology but it doesn't alter the fact that it's here to stay and all the laws and lawsuits in the world won't stop people from copying (and distributing). It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetically sad.

  18. Re:Bev Oda by Cadallin · · Score: 2, Insightful
    What, you mean corporations in the rest of world are figuring out what those in the USA have known for decades? Buying elections is CHEAP. If I was a Multinational Corporation with revenues in the Billions, I could buy an American Congress for as little as a couple hundred million dollars, which realistically is nothing. I'd guess that other, smaller and/or poorer democracies would be even cheaper. I'm not sure what it would cost to buy the Mexican government, but it can't be more than $50 million.

    This is one of my huge objections to the way Democracies are run today. Any random multinational can install their very own Mussolini for less than a decent ad campaign. Democracy gets you the cheapest governments money can buy.

  19. Make this a voting issue..... by Kernel+Kurtz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Make this a voting issue, and make it clear to your MP and other government representatives that it is. We have a minority government here right now, and an election is likely sooner rather than later. Issues like this could swing the balance of power, or make the difference between a majority or another minority government.

    I voted CPC last election, but if they take away my fair use rights they will not get my vote again. Ever.

  20. just more corruption in action by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    when the overly affluent can't profit fairly, they change the rules

    sadly, the result is the destruction of our common culture

  21. Re:Contact info by dryeo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Much better if you send them a hand written letter then an email. They view email as to easy and not carrying the same weight as a letter.
    Also you do not need a stamp.

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  22. Re:Intense pressure? by jbr439 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Or the desires of a Conservative government intent on more closely aligning Canada with the US.

  23. Bit it's already paid for via the "Copyright Tax?" by frdmfghtr · · Score: 2, Insightful
    FTA:

    Graham Henderson of the Canadian Recording Industry Association, one of Canada's top lobbyists for stiffer copyright controls, notes that a variety of digital services have taken off in the United States and started to make up a large percentage of music revenues.

    "In Canada, that's not happening and it's not happening because we have a culture here where people just assume it's free," said Henderson.

    "It's a big black market effect and so instead of 25 per cent [of the market], it's eight per cent here. People are simply abandoning the marketplace altogether, and they've made the decision they'll just download the music and worry about how the artist gets paid later."


    What is he referring to as "free?"

    And they ALREADY paid the artists...isn't that what that extra levy on recording media you all pay up there is for, reimbursing the artists for copyright infringement that's assumed to be happening (even though there is NO evidence that GUARANTEES that the media one purchases is going to be used for copying music/movies/etc.)
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