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Survey Indicates ID Theft May Be Diminishing

netbuzz passed us a link discussing a survey conducted by major credit firms. Keeping in mind the source (CheckFree, Visa, and WellsFargo), the results indicate identity theft may be on the downswing as consumers wise up to scammers. The number of respondents that reported a fraudulent account created with a stolen identity dropped by a full half percentage point between 2005 and 2006. Overall fraud apparently dropped by some 12% over last year, representing $6.4 billion in fraud reduction. Again, consider the source: identity fraud is still apparently costing some $49.3 billion annually.

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  1. OB.. by StikyPad · · Score: 3, Funny

    A talking moose wants my credit card number? Wait a minute.. I'm not falling for that again!

    1. Re:OB.. by Dr+Caleb · · Score: 2, Funny

      Vee only accept call from Moose AND Squirrel, Comrade.

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  2. Maybe the Black Market is just saturated... by Radon360 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Perhaps the people phishing for card numbers, SSN#'s have amassed so many at this point that they can still sell large blocks of them to unwitting thieves, even though a small number of them have already been flagged as potentially stolen by the financial institutions.

    Then again, maybe the theives can purchase these blocks of numbers from the phishers using their credit card number to try and purchase them...

  3. Identify! by AndroidCat · · Score: 3, Funny

    Was the survey really sure that they were talking to CheckFree, Visa, and WellsFargo?

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  4. Consider the source? by Ace905 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's interesting that they're reporting this ; but you can't take flat-out numbers with a grain of salt. They're either correct or complete lies ; and I think we all know they have to be complete lies.

    These companies don't report half the cases of identity theft to end-consumers, banks and definitely not the police because they don't want to alarm anybody -- especially when the case is unsolvable. I've had my bank card 'suspended' 3 times in the past two years because someone has stolen my pin and copied the card at a gas station or variety store and the bank tells me only, "The card was copied along with a number of other cards. Your account hasn't been effected, just come into the bank for a new card and choose a new pin".

    My account hasn't been affected because the bank noticed it and silently footed the bill ; only even bothering to tell me because I couldn't use the card. I imagine a credit card that has no PIN on it - you would never notice ; and how much easier would it be to copy a credit card. You don't need to read the pin over someone's shoulder.

    If theft is down or up you'll never know the truth. If it's down by half, why wouldn't they say it's down by 3/4's. Even a reduction, if it occurred would likely be embellished.

    Speaking of embellished.

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    1. Re:Consider the source? by Mephistophocles · · Score: 2, Insightful
      They're either correct or complete lies ; and I think we all know they have to be complete lies.

      I agree, and given the source, I think it's safe to say that this report is simply irrelevant. It has the same intellectual honesty as a car salesman who screeches about having the biggest sale in recorded history, and should be given about the same attention.

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  5. Survey by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 3, Insightful

    We sent a survey out by e-mail asking people for their name, phone number, credit card number, SSN, mother's maiden name, and asking if they had their identity stolen in the last year. 99% of those who responded with all the info, said they hadn't, while 80% of all responses said, "I'm not falling for that again." From this we conclude only 1% of people on average have been victims of identity theft.

    ...or that could be their methodology. It is hard to say since they do not seem to have published it, effectively making this study useless marketing. That makes sense given who paid for it.

  6. 1/2 percent???? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Thats funny because in the 2006 identity theft rose 100% percent for me.

  7. Phishing by snail mail by andy1307 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Last week I receveied a letter in the e-mail telling me I had won a lottery and asking me for my bank information. Unlike the Nigerian scams, this was sent from Spain by snail mail. I've seen Nigerian scam e-mails before but this is the first phishing snail-mail I've received

    Has anyone else experienced this?

    1. Re:Phishing by snail mail by pluther · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Oh, yeah, it used to be much more common.
      They just switched to e-mail because it's easier, cheaper, and harder to catch them at it. (There used to be actual investigations when someone engaged in inter-state fraud through the Post Office).

      There are still companies that will send you misleading but not actually fraudulent snail mail along the lines of "You've been selected as the winner of this Brand New digital camera! Absolutely free, just sent $49.95 shipping and handling..."

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  8. Why have a survey at all? by Robbyboy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Looking at this article, I was wondering about the need for such a survey. Wouldn't the agencies involved be taking an active part in working with identity theft? Last time I checked, when you find out your identity has been stolen, you notify the Credit Card Companies and credit agencies. What I am wondering is how many people have been victims and do not yet know about it. With initiatives such as FACT ACT and consumer awareness, Id be interested to know how often people are checking to see if they have been victims of identity theft. I think next time we will ask the fox how safe the henhouse is... That is a survey I would be interested in!
    Cheers
    Robert

  9. Dropped by a 'full half percent' ? by ScentCone · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I guess that's better than a plain old regular half a percent.

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  10. source?? by hackstraw · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Keeping in mind the source (CheckFree, Visa, and WellsFargo)

    I recently got a "check" from my credit card for $20. By depositing that check they would automatically enroll me in an identity theft insurance protection plan.

    For my convenience, they would bill my credit card (plus interest I assume).

    Basically, this is legal fraud.

    First, my CC is unsecured credit. If I don't pay, its no big deal aside from them screwing my credit or whatever they do.

    My point, is that don't these people want the illusion that ID theft is on the rise so that they can sell this insurance to people?

    Stuff like this makes me question humanity.

  11. It still needs fixin by tribentwrks · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm dealing with identity theft right now, but somebody elses. A Guy with a SS# 1 digit off from mine got his ID stolen, but it's showing up on my credit report. Should be easy to clean up, right? Nope. Have do the same exact steps -- wasted hours on phone calls, faxes, and police reports to prove that bad credit under a different name, address, AND social security number is really not my bad credit.

    If you're wise, you will take advantage of the free credit reports, and get yours checked at least once a year.

  12. A different perspective by causality · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I have a different perspective on scams and phishing (which often lead to ID theft).

    In a way, the perpetrators of these ripoffs are actually doing humanity a favor. They are making stupidity more painful.

    About the only case during which ID theft can happen that you cannot easily attribute (at least partially) to a fault of the victim is when customer information is stolen from a legitimate business and then abused to steal identities. Practically all of the rest of it relies on the naive nature and/or the greed of the victim, and both of these should be recognized as weaknesses, the exploitation of which is an eventuality. Put another way, anyone who sincerely believes that online requests for account numbers, their social security number, etc. should be responded to without first verifying their legitimacy is a fool, is begging for something like this to happen, and should see any theft that does happen as an educational experience in why you don't trust random, unverified strangers with your most confidential personal information.

    If someone walked up to you in the street and said "Hi, I'm a manager at your bank, we need your account number and all of your personal information," you'd likely tell them (however politely or however rudely) to fuck off. At the very least, you'd ask to see some credentials before you'd actually give out any personal information. Why is it that when the same thing occurs via e-mail, so many people people shut down their common sense and critical thinking skills (whatever degree of those that may be left) and happily say "oh wow, I sure am glad they contacted me for my full name, address, date of birth, social security number, mother's maiden name, and account numbers before they locked my account!"? Would you really feel sorry for someone who did this? Or would you decide that the scammer in this case is providing one of the few remaining incentives to not be so careless and stupid with things that are important?

    A simple observation can be made: all scams rely on either the stupidity (the willingness to give confidential information to anonymous people) or the greed (the expectation of receiving large sums of money for very little or no work), or both, of the victim. It would be impossible or nearly impossible to arrest and prosecute every last phisher and con artist in the world who wants to rip people off; indeed, even attempting to do so would require a police state. While it is still a good idea to go after the scammers, since it increases the risk of earning a living by ripping people off, this alone is never going to solve the problem. I propose that the problem could be solved not by going after relatively anonymous scammers who pop up all over the globe, but by hardening the targets. This is never going to happen so long as we coddle the less-bright (as evidenced by behavior) among us by telling them that they're innocent, helpless little people who fell victim to the big mean old scammers, but it could happen if we remind them that the event did not happen in isolation, that they exhibited contributory negligence, that in most cases no one gets your confidential information unless you personally give it to them, and that their lack of discernment helps to fund organized crime.

    Just an idea, and it's something that I have never seen implemented on any sort of large scale, but what I do know is that what we are doing right now is not very effective. In any case, Aesop definitely had it right: a fool and his money are soon parted. You can't realistically remove the money from that equation, and you can't remove the desire to steal from every person on the planet, but you can certainly remove the fool from that equation.

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  13. Education is the key by Mad-cat · · Score: 3, Informative

    Quick note: I am a law enforcement officer and have a background in network management.

    One of the issues I face in investigating identity-theft related crimes is the lack of knowledge the general consumer has. That seems to be changing.

    About a year ago, the typical victim of identity theft would ask questions like "How can they be using my credit card if I have it right here?" or "I'll bet it was the waiter at that restaurant last week who looked at me funny. He can charge any price he wants on their system, right?"

    Now, my typical victim of identity theft is much more aware, and usually has the credit reporting agencies and banks notified of the problem within hours instead of days or weeks. They know in advance what to do, and don't have to be told how to help themselves.

    I have to hand it to the average citizen. They are catching on about internet safety. Not completely and not quickly, but it's a major improvement.