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Over 27% of Firefox Patches Come from Volunteers

dolphinling writes "Everyone is aware that the Mozilla Corporation makes some money, and employs some people now. Google has full-time employees working on Firefox too, as do a number of other places. Yet despite that, in the six months up to Firefox 2 some 27% of the patches to Firefox were submitted by key volunteers, and those patches represent 24% of changes made to the source code. What's more, those numbers only counted contributers with 50 patches or more, so the actual numbers are probably quite a bit higher. It's good to see that even as Mozilla does so well in the business world, it can still keep its ties to the community so strong." They were running these number to find out who they need to start offering support to. So: contribute to Firefox, and you know you'll get a hand up. Nice work, folks.

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  1. making money by iambarry · · Score: 3, Funny

    Everyone is aware that the Mozilla Corporation makes some money
    I am so out of touch. Must be getting old.

    How do they make money?

    1. Re:making money by mshmgi · · Score: 5, Funny

      Sure, they give the software away, but they make it up in volume!

    2. Re:making money by linvir · · Score: 4, Informative

      Why the hell would anyone want the search bar if you can simply type "google xxx"?
      It's a lot more effort to type "google" than it is to press CTRL+K

      I use this all the time, and I definitely don't consider it a waste of screen real estate. The only time I ever remove the Google toolbar is when I'm setting up KDE on a small desktop.

      As for wikipedia... well, that's all Google's really for nowadays anyway: a faster search engine for wikipedia with a decent built in spellchecker.

    3. Re:making money by kogus · · Score: 5, Funny

      Using the mouse! That's faster than hitting [Windows Key]->"S"->[enter]->[enter], arrowing to "Accessibility options", pushing enter, then pushing [tab] nine times, then using the arrow to get to the "Mouse" tab, then pushing [alt-m] to turn on mousekeys, [alt-a] to apply the change, then using my number pad to navigate to the search bar and click it. danke! :)

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  2. Don't forget all the other work done by volunteers by caitriona81 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There's more to Mozilla than coding - volunteers also do quality assurance, documentation, and other things that aren't reflected in these numbers, but are just as important to the finished product.

  3. Moo by Chacham · · Score: 3, Funny

    and those patches represent 24% of changes made to the source code.

    When do we get to rename FireFox to Apache Broswer?

  4. Re:Don't forget all the other work done by volunte by UbuntuDupe · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hey, good point.

    Me: "Firefox deleted my bookmarks when I updated to the new version."
    Mozilla: "Shut up. That's fixed in the new version. Download it here."

  5. of course they do, because they can by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Volunteers would probably patch IE too, except they can't, because it's closed source... hence the main issue with closed source. Even if you wanted to fix it, and you knew how, and you had the time, you still can't fix it.

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  6. Volunteer updates by sunderland56 · · Score: 4, Funny
    Over 75% of the "improvements" to Windows come from volunteers, too.


    Won't you please help support their work? Just visit any web site, you'll get some downloaded for free!

  7. Mozilla makes $50 million a year by gtoomey · · Score: 4, Informative

    Mozilla doesn't just make "some money", it makes $50 million a year from firefox.

    http://www.netscape.com/viewstory/2007/01/03/firef ox-a-50-million-dollar-cash-cow

    1. Re:Mozilla makes $50 million a year by linuxci · · Score: 4, Funny

      Mozilla doesn't just make "some money", it makes $50 million a year from firefox.

      http://www.netscape.com/viewstory/2007/01/03/firef ox-a-50-million-dollar-cash-cow Well with the current exchange rates they made the $50 million by someone in britian donating £50 :)

  8. I just tried typing "google xxx".... by StressGuy · · Score: 5, Funny

    you damn near got me fired!

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  9. Think of patches like you would in boy scouts. by tinkertim · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just because the folks submitting patches aren't being paid by Mozilla, doesn't mean they aren't monetizing their accomplishments.

    Finding a popular / useful OS project to work on is a very common (and worthwhile) practice used to build resumes and compensate for lack of 'proven' experience. Another *really* good example of this is Xen.

    I don't have statistics like these for Xen, however a quick glance through their mailing lists (xen-devel) will show a flurry of activity daily, sometimes up to 15 - 20 patches a day being submitted, ... maybe 30% of them accepted as-is (or a bit less, this is off the top of my head).

    The point is, being able to augment your resume or CV with "Patches xxx, yyy zzz for Firefox, xxx yyy zz for Xen, xxx yyy zzz for Open Office) really helps to show that you like doing what you do and quite a few people happen to think you're rather good at doing it.

    So if you submit, say 10 patches, 3 of them get accepted which helps to get you that 80K a year job, well you did in fact (indirectly) get compensated for your efforts and so did everyone who uses the browser that now works a little better due to your contribs.

    I really fail to see anything 'sinister' about that in and of itself, but had no idea that Mozilla brought in that kind of dough. I would have guessed maybe 1 - 2 million, not 50. But even knowing that, I still see it as a win-win situation. Maybe I'm a little more laid back than most.

  10. Re:I'm surprised it's not higher by Giorgio+Maone · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is not true.

    Every single change in the Mozilla code base is proposed/discussed in a Bugzilla entry, usually called "a bug" no matter if it refers to a defect to be fixed, an enhancement or a new feature.

    Patches are attached to those "bugs", and they always require peer review to be accepted and eventually committed, even if they come from Mozilla Corporation paid staff.

    So, "they just commit" applies to nobody.

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  11. How do I offer a bounty? by Andy_R · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Bug 306276 (windows not going where the user wants to put them under OS X) annoys the hell out of me. So much so that I'd happily pay $100 a fix for this in v1.5 or v2.

    Is there a centralised system for offering this sort of incentive to volunteers?

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  12. Even more remarkable by loafing_oaf · · Score: 3, Funny

    Even more remarkable: 13 percent of the patches were submitted by Al Gore.

    Ba-doom boom

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  13. Go Fish by chimpo13 · · Score: 3, Funny

    It was a sad day for me when the Abe Vigoda: Dead or Alive monitor quit working. I liked the Abe face in the corner.