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MS Dirty Tricks Archive Trickles Back Online

networkBoy writes with word that The Register is following up its story about the Microsoft dirty tricks archive going offline. It appears that several individuals have the pieces to the puzzle and are looking for hosting resources. From the latter article: "The 3,000 document archive from the Comes antitrust trial, which disappeared from the web abruptly when Microsoft settled the case last week, is beginning to trickle back into view. A week ago the site was placed under password protection, Microsoft withdrew its own account of events, and so-called internet 'archive' archive.org apparently also pulled its mirror."

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  1. some of archive on piratebay by wherrera · · Score: 5, Informative

    Seach PirateBay for a torrent called 'iowa'

  2. Re:Is there someone at Archive.org we can ask why? by Animats · · Score: 4, Informative

    I would love to know what 'excuse' Archive.org gave for removing such essential internet history information.

    Anyone have the Internet Archive URL involved?

    Most likely, though, is that the site added a restrictive "robots.txt" file. The Archive obeys the "robots.txt" file retroactively. If you put one up, the Archive will disallow access to all the files that would have been blocked in the past according to the "robots.txt" file.

    The data isn't gone from the Archive, though. Access has just been disallowed. You can ask that it be re-allowed given the legal justification that the information is a public record.

  3. Re:Is there someone at Archive.org we can ask why? by BeProf · · Score: 4, Informative

    IANAL, and I'm not familiar with the details of the case, but...

    When a case was settled out of court and a common feature of such settlements is that the complainant agree to shut their yaps in return for a large financial settlement from the respondant. And if this was an out of court settlement, none of the material in question was ever submitted into evidence and thus never became part of the public record.

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  4. Re:Is there someone at Archive.org we can ask why? by networkBoy · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yes it is, unless sealed by the court.
    To that end, since the register article says someone has a copy and needs a sympathetic host, I'll host all I can :)
    Anyone else have bandwith and space to spare? I'm thinking just torrent the whole tarball or rar and distribute it far and wide. Once the cat's out of the bag and multiplied it's gonna be hard to put back. As long as only one person has a copy though, it will be easy to quash.
    -nB

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  5. is this it? by metroplex · · Score: 5, Informative

    This appears to be it http://torrents.thepiratebay.org/hashtorrent/36201 52.torrent/iowa.3620152.TPB.torrent 2.58 Gb rar archive split in 31 parts.

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  6. GrokLaw has it by HaeMaker · · Score: 4, Informative
  7. Re:I have 1.6GB of the best stuff by shudde · · Score: 2, Informative

    Slight correction: Tor isn't technically a darknet.

  8. Re:Is there someone at Archive.org we can ask why? by sabt-pestnu · · Score: 2, Informative

    Groklaw.com and its viewers have archived the documents and the host is preparing a permanent page for the Comes vs Microsoft trial documents.

    agreed. Data in one place is vulnerable to deletion. Data in many places is less so. ... noise might be an issue, though.

  9. Re:Is there someone at Archive.org we can ask why? by sabt-pestnu · · Score: 3, Informative

    I believe you are thinking of the settlement details, which are usually not part of the court documents. Thus the "out of court" part of the name.

    As other posters note, as soon as it is ordered by the court or submitted to the court, unless it is sealed, it's part of the court (and thus public) record - put into the public domain. Witness the SCO vs IBM, SCO vs Novell, etc. documents published on Groklaw. Those cases are still in pre-trial motions (not necessarily still in pre-trial discovery, even if SCO would wish it so).

    Regardless, Comes vs Microsoft was actually in the trial phase. There were jurors and everything!

    IANAL as well.

  10. Re:Is there someone at Archive.org we can ask why? by Jon_S · · Score: 3, Informative

    According to MathFox on Groklaw (sitting in for PJ during her health break - we hope that's all it is),

    "These documents are all public domain materials by order of the judge in the case."

  11. Re:Is there someone at Archive.org we can ask why? by BeProf · · Score: 2, Informative

    > Regardless, Comes vs Microsoft was actually in the trial phase. There were jurors and everything!

    In that case they should be public record unless sealed. Feel free to call the court in question and ask them for information on how to get those records.

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