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AMD A Ripe Target For Buyout?

SpiceMonkey writes "AMD stock was up 6.74% on Monday on rumors that AMD is a prime buyout target. After their purchase of ATI, they've been pressed to maintain their aggressive policy of chip production increases. As a result, the AMD message board on Yahoo! is full of speculation on who has their eyes on the company. Many folks there think that IBM is the right buyer for the company. There's no firm word that AMD is even being considered for purchase, but it's certainly and interesting prospect."

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  1. don't get exited: it's just about money, not tech by chriss · · Score: 5, Insightful

    TFA does not talk about a buyout for technology reasons. No, IBM does not want to compete with Intel on the x86 market. This is about a private equity firm (aka a group with a lot of money) possibly trying to buy a large part of AMD. It's all about money, not tech.

    Why would they do this? They either believe that AMDs stock is undervalued (it slipped 12% since January due to $574 million forth quarter loss) or they expect the company to fare pretty good in the future. Any way, they'd make money. A third option is always someone believing the single parts of the company are worth more than the stock and breaking it up and selling them separately will be profitable, but AMD is not sufficiently diversified to make this likely.

    So what would happen if the rumors were true? Someone else would receive the bonus in the future.

  2. IBM?? NOT!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You have to be kidding, IBM a prospective buyer? How on earth does that make sense? Why would IBM want to be in the Intel clone business? Do they need the extra fab capacity, no? Is there some IP that they might be after, highly doubtful that there is enough to warrant a purchase vs simply licensing it. AAMOF, I don't see any value that AMD could bring to the company compared to the rather large price they would have to pay to get it. IBM is just fine selling gazillions of PPC based chips to video game manufacturers and doing their other custom IC work.

    1. Re:IBM?? NOT!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful
      It seems like IBM is at a crossroads in the semiconductor business, similar to about 10 years ago. Itanium failed like IBM said it would and they were right to stick it out.


      Should they stay in it or should the get out? They make wonderful products, they've got volume customers but I don't know if that's a business you stay competitive in if it's not your core vision. IBM simply makes chips because there aren't chips that are good enough to do what they need to sell their solutions. Buying AMD makes a lot of sense, it get's them in to the x86 business, AMD has a ton of knowledge and experience, it hedges their POWER business and it also gives them a dramatic boost in the fab for hire business.


      Otherwise, it seems that IBM being in hardware at all is kind of a question. It's a long term losing battle to keep doing what they are doing, eventually the value proposition of buying cheap Intel parts out weighs the value prop of building their own. Eventually cheap AMD and Intel parts will do more than what is needed in expensive POWERx parts. I think if Sony, Nintendo and MS didn't buy IBM parts, the decision would have already been made and IBM would be formulating a strategy to exit semiconductors. I don't like that but what's the business case other wise? Assuming that it costs IBM and Intel the same to architect a new generation of chip, only IBM will make 2 million of them and Intel will make 50million of them, you do the math.


      hard to say, it's probably just a rumor but I think it makes a lot more sense than a lot of people might thing. Sun seems like a good candidate too, I don't know that sun has the jack to buy AMD though. Sun makes perfect sense actually and as such I could see IBM putting their foot in the door, so to speak.

  3. The message board on Yahoo? by LordSnooty · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Now someone will tell me that all the great movers & shakers in Wall Street are signed up to the same Yahoogroups list. Excuse me if I don't believe that. Is this idle speculation masquerading as news?

  4. oooohhh, yahoo! trumps research! buy now! by swschrad · · Score: 4, Insightful

    freakin' preposterous.

    yahoo stock boards are full of stock pimps and shenanigans, as well as cranky posters and politics junkies.

    I'd rather get stock touts from a street drunk than that board. you could probably do better pumping and dumping penny stocks mentioned in spam than using yahoo as your guide.

    everybody, repeat after me. "Tech stocks are NOT bubble plays, they are lead balloons. there is ONE tech stock in a thousand that is a money rocket, the rest just plink along as no-brain speculators play with them."

    trade if you must on the fundamentals, not on cool technology. cool technology lasts half a year, then it's trumped, and it costs 50 times as much to find the next breakthrough as the first one.

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    if this is supposed to be a new economy, how come they still want my old fashioned money?
  5. Re:don't get exited: it's just about money, not te by Lord+Phaeton · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Although in the past private equity firms have generally sought to buy firms with undervalued stocks, with the massive amount of money floating around today pe firms usually buy companies and extract value for themselves by leveraging the company (hence the term leveraged buyout).

    In this case, that would be a terrible idea. AMD's debt load is such that a firm would be unable to raise it significantly, but most importantly, AMD competes in a cyclical industry. Many are worried about the recent Freescale LBO because in a highly cyclical industry like semiconductors if the industry turns down and the leveraged firm can't make its debt payments, then it goes belly up.

    Considering all of these factors I think that an LBO of AMD is highly unlikely.

  6. Yahoo Msg Board Speculation?! by SwashbucklingCowboy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That's the basis for this? Speculation on a msg board?

    Might as well read the National Inquirer...

  7. Huge upside potential by wytcld · · Score: 2, Insightful

    We know from the last few years experience that AMD can, for limited periods of time, pull ahead of Intel. That initially surprised a bunch of people whose conventional wisdom was that AMD would always merely follow, and its stock doubled. Then Intel pulled ahead again, and AMD's stock fell all the back and some. But before that reversal, AMD (1) gained significant market entry (e.g. Dell) so that in the event it pulls ahead of Intel again, it can more immediately capitalize on that lead, (2) bought a major graphics chip maker, which can potentially give it more ways to pull ahead. But that was expensive, so:

    At this point AMD might want to take on a significant minority investor from private equity. That would ease its short-term debt. From the investor's point of view, all that is necessary to make a huge profit is for AMD to pull ahead of Intel again - however briefly - which could easily double the value of AMD's stock again. But the greater upside is if AMD can innovate its way to a longer-term lead over Intel. If that were to happen AMD's value could increase by an order of magnitude.

    Also, if you're private equity, you probably feel you're smarter than God, so that if AMD were compelled by your investment to listen carefully to your strategic ideas, the upside potentials would become much better bets.

    Of course, there's a substantial chance of losing it all too. But over the last 40 years the GDP per capita in the US has doubled, while the median income per capita has held within a few percent of steady. That basically means that the there's twice the wealth - more than that considering population growth, but twice as much for each person on average. But each person doesn't have that. It's the super rich who have it, and they're the players in the private equity game. They can afford to gamble big, because they have so much they can take huge losses on any particular bet and still come out far ahead of the rest of us.

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