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Photoshop Online Within Six Months

scobrown writes "Adobe is going to create a software-as-a-service version of photoshop that it will initially be offering for free. It should be available within 6 months. It is supposed to be ad supported... but we'll see how long that lasts"

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  1. Platform-independent, I hope by darien · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So long as it's not written in ActiveX or anything dumb like that, this could be good news for Linux on the desktop. Can't install the latest version of Photoshop? Who cares, just use it online!

    1. Re:Platform-independent, I hope by The+Dobber · · Score: 3, Funny

      I believe the correct phrase would have been

      "Can't bittorrent the latest version of Photoshop......"

    2. Re:Platform-independent, I hope by dankenstein355 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Rather use GIMP to be honest. Anyway, performance will be way too slow for any image of a reasonable size over the web. Why bother? Or am I missing something here?

    3. Re:Platform-independent, I hope by tijmentiming · · Score: 3, Interesting

      [shameless]
      Hey I created some sort of javascript drawing tool. You can edit images other people created. And draw new ones:
      Here I blog about it: http://the-timing.nl/blog/2006/10/wiki-art-has-a-n ew-editor
      This is the actual application: http://wiki-art.fokdat.nl/

      And it works in Opera, Firefox, IE and Safari!
      [/shameless]

    4. Re:Platform-independent, I hope by miyako · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm guessing that while performance might suck for large images, anyone doing real graphic design and photography will have a real version of Photoshop. This is probably intended for people who want to be able to quickly design some small graphics for use on their website.

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    5. Re:Platform-independent, I hope by j-pimp · · Score: 3, Interesting

      What technology do you expect it to be written in then? I see ActiveX, Flash as being the only *real* options for pulling this off. Maybe a Java Applet.

      ActiveX and Flash are far from the same thing. The main problems with ActiveX is its windows only and its insecure. You also forget to mention java.

      As far as being windows only, Flash and Java have the problem of requiring closed source bytecode interpreters, but run on other platforms. They are both relatively secure as well. Both have interpreters available for linux so you will be able to run this on linux.

      I really hope this gets implemented as a J2EE delivered webapp with a flash frontend. Flash has the potential to be a platform of choice for rich web apps, and I think whatever R&D comes out of delivering photoshop as a flash app will translate into newer flash developer tools. I see this as the Flash equivilant of putting a man on the moon in terms of positive side effects.

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    6. Re:Platform-independent, I hope by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 4, Funny

      Photoshop Elements!

      I tried, but I can't find the periodic table pulldown. Hell, I can't even specify "Cobalt Blue" in the colour picker...

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    7. Re:Platform-independent, I hope by GweeDo · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yup...that feels just like Photoshop!

    8. Re:Platform-independent, I hope by Arleo · · Score: 3, Informative

      Photo editing services on the web already exist for several years. Years ago I played with a photo filter tool on the Nikon website. You could apply all sorts of funny filters on your foto's, like cartoon filters and so on.

      Now there are several (free) services available, like myImager, Phixr and Pixenate. Image processing is done at the webserver. A preview of the image processing result is shown on the web page and the final image can be downloaded at full resolution. So no rocket science at all. Just some clever web programming. I think there is space for a big player (Adobe, did I hear the G-word?) to create a more advanced web based image processing service. I think it could be very popular and a real concurrent for light weight photo editing tools.

      A short review of some of these tools can be found at the "Ditigal Inspiration" weblog.

    9. Re:Platform-independent, I hope by Traa · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I'm guessing that while performance might suck for large images, anyone doing real graphic design and photography will have a real version of Photoshop. This is probably intended for people who want to be able to quickly design some small graphics for use on their website.

      To illustrate that you are most likely correct consider that the lead artist that works on professional photo restoration at YellowCatDesign typically works with files many gigabytes in size. A simple 8x11 inch at 600dpi and 8bit per color clocks in at 100MB. Most images are scanned at higher resolutions at higher bitdepth (and I think in CMYK rather then RGB). Also I've seen our professionals use tons of layers (10-100) which can add significantly to the filesize. I just don't see that amount of data beeing transferred between a web-based client and a remote server in real time.

      Still, for smaller images having photoshop available online would be great.

  2. GIMP online 7 years ago by Tet · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is nothing new. There was an online version of GIMP available 7 years ago. It wasn't a commercial success, but with today's hardware and bandwidth prices, and with a modern AJAX interface, would it stand a chance now? Adobe obviously seem to think so.

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  3. Next business opp. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Once it is offered, someone from the Third World would offer services to touch up the photos, clearing the background and adjust the color balance etc on the web using the free adobe photoshop. Already I have seen ads from people willing solve CAPTCHAs for less than a dollar an hour. Homework service for school children is also popping up. If only someone would invent a lawnmower that could be driven remotely via the net ...

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  4. I can't wait by eclectro · · Score: 5, Funny

    This means that Microsoft will follow by putting their much loved 'MS Paint' online.

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  5. Anyone remember Photo Deluxe? by Dogtanian · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Didn't take reading the article to figure out that any version of Photoshop that was both online and ad-supported was more likely to be a very cut-down service and greatly different/simplified from the boxed versions.

    I used to use an app from Adobe called "Photo Deluxe". It was based on the Photoshop engine, but with the interface totally changed and cut down (more so than Elements). I wouldn't have considered that Photoshop, and I suspect that this online service will be even more simplified. Calling it Photoshop is likely just a branding exercise.

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  6. Re:GIMP online 7 years ago (who cares?) by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Whenever people Photoshop comes up at Slashdot, people mention Gimp. But Gimp is not a substitute for Photoshop as far as professional users are concerned. Gimp is like so many OSS projects, a rat's nest of messed up code, no real road map, and half-assed implementations "features".

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  7. I don't get it... by Zeek40 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Seems like it will be an interesting experiment in software as a service, but media editing seems to be a bad fit for the "software as an online service" model due to the high bandwidth & processing demands. The math has to be done either on the user's end (which would be bad for folks with low spec systems, who i see as the primary target for this business model) or on Adobe's systems (which will cost them money, decreasing their bottom line). Anyone with experience in the field have any compelling reasons why one would chose to use adobe's online photoshop rather than just using picasa or gimp?

  8. Where is the CPU? by bjb · · Score: 5, Insightful
    OK, so I upload my 20MB PSD file and run a gaussian blur on it. Who's CPU is doing that? Unless it is ActiveX (Win32 only) or a Java plug-in (most likely not super efficient on raw CPU features), is it going to be hosted on their servers? Javascript won't handle it very well, I'd have to think.

    Probably not going to be a huge deal, but those real-time previews of CPU intensive filters are nice on the machine local installation; only hope those make it to the online as well.

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    1. Re:Where is the CPU? by lpontiac · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is Adobe. They'll write it in Flash. Expect an application that'll run locally in the Flash runtime (which will happily have optimised image composition routines to do stuff like a Gaussian blur), but with the web used to deliver the application inside a browser, and possibly with online storage and/or public sharing of your work tied in.

    2. Re:Where is the CPU? by mpcooke3 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Oh yes that's logical. They'll entirely rewrite one of the most complex C/C++ apps ever written - in Actionscript.

  9. Re:Surely a bad idea? by Hijacked+Public · · Score: 3, Informative

    Photoshop has a solid identity in the market, even among casual photographers. Walk into a camera shop and mention GIMP to some random person looking at the point and shoots and you'll probably get punched in the eye. That same person almost certainly recognizes what Photoshop is and does.

    I'm a professional photographer but I am far less Photoshop oriented than most of my peers. But it is an indespensible tool. I've tried dozens of other apps, online and off, and even for my relatively simple needs Photoshop has no replacement. Not even other less expensive Adobe products like Elements or Lightroom. From the way the article reads this online version won't actually have the same features as a local version of Photoshop. My guess would be that it would be better named after Elements or Lightroom but neither of those have the kind of ubiquitous name recognition that Photoshop does.

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  10. MS Paint online by Dogtanian · · Score: 3, Informative

    This means that Microsoft will follow by putting their much loved 'MS Paint' online. "Funny", huh? It's already been done, albeit not by MS themselves.
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  11. Re:Video Editing by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 4, Funny

    You can already do online video editing in java.
     
    ...depending on your life expectancy.

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  12. Re:GIMP online 7 years ago (who cares?) by Thundersnatch · · Score: 4, Informative

    There's a lot more than a "CMYK implementation" needed to replace Photoshop. You need suppport for ICC color correction, a lossless "base" color space (e.g. L*a*b), high-bit-depth support, monitor/scanner/device calibration support, 6+ color separation support, PANTONE color library support, and a hundred other professional-level features.

    GIMP is good for making JPEGs that target the web, where color fidelity is (lamentably) disregarded. And of course personal photo editing. GIMP's true competition at this point is Photoshop Elements, Paint.NET, Paint Shop Pro, and other "prosumer" tools.

  13. Enjoy Cocaine in a can by tepples · · Score: 3, Funny

    Since when does cocaine come in aluminium? Since 2006.