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Define - /etc?

ogar572 asks: "There has been an ongoing and heated debate around the office concerning the definition of what /etc means on *nix operating systems. One side says "et cetera" per Wikipedia. Another side says it means 'extended tool chest' per this gnome mailing list entry or per this Norwegian article. Yet another side says neither, but he doesn't remember exactly what he heard in the past. All he remembers is that he was flamed when he called it 'et cetera', but that 'extended tool chest' didn't sound right either. So, what does it really mean?"

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  1. It means by offlerthecrocgod · · Score: 5, Funny

    It means etc...

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    1. Re:It means by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      etc tool chest

    2. Re:It means by ultranova · · Score: 2, Funny

      Judging by things like "GNU's Not Unix" "etc" is obviously short for "etc's the champ".

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    3. Re:It means by kumachan · · Score: 3, Funny

      Exists To Confuse

    4. Re:It means by CAIMLAS · · Score: 2, Funny

      I worked with a guy once who called "et see" instead of the historical "et cetera". Ironically, he'd supposedly (I doubted the veracity of his claims based on his relative level of knowledge - or lack thereof) been working with Linux/Unix for longer than I.

      The first time he said "et see" it took him a good five minutes to explain to me what he was talking about, because he lacked the verbal skill required for sentences. And I eventually gave up saying "et cetera" in preference over "et see" - because he would ask me what I was talking about almost every single time.

      God I'm glad I don't work with him anymore.

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  2. Configs by Chemisor · · Score: 5, Funny

    Enormous Trove of Configuration files, that's what it is.

  3. I know who to ask by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    But I'm afraid Ken Thompson or Dennis M. Ritchie would rather talk to their own poop than to Slashdot journalists.

    So we rather speculate.

  4. Re:etc stands for... by an.echte.trilingue · · Score: 2, Funny

    Editable Text Configuration
    That sounds like the most reasonable response to me, but do you have any references (so that we can correct wikipedia)?
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  5. Re:I vote for et cetera by AsnFkr · · Score: 5, Funny

    "/var" didn't exist until long after "/etc" was created; so, you can't look to /var's use to provide a clue to /etc's origins.

    server / # ls -lah
    total 72K
    drwxr-xr-x 47 root root 4.0K Feb 11 10:23 etc
    drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 4.0K May 11 2005 var


    Wow, you're right. /etc is exactly three months older than /var. Amazing!!

  6. Definition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Eh... That's where them Config files goes"

  7. Re:etc stands for... by russ1337 · · Score: 2, Funny

    >>>" Editable Text Configuration
    >That sounds like the most reasonable response to me, but do you have any references (so that we can correct wikipedia)?


    I think you're quite safe to use GP's Slasdot entry as the reference.

  8. Yeah, and /lib stands for ... by Bazman · · Score: 5, Funny

    'linked-in binaries'. Here's some of the other TLAs: /lib: linked-in binaries /etc: extended tool chest /usr: unix system routines /bin: basic instructions (native) /var: volatile access region /opt: one per terminal /tmp: this maybe purged /mnt: multiple network things /dev: dont ever violate /sys: she's your sister

  9. Actually, it comes from eta oin shrdlu by jonadab · · Score: 3, Funny

    You see, the etc hierarchy on Unix was the successor the etb hierarchy on Unics, which was named for the ETA configuration mechanism on Multics, which was named for ETA OIN SHRDLU. So, now you know.

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  10. Geeky would be... by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...Etc Text Configuration.

  11. Re:Let's be logical shall we by lpcustom · · Score: 3, Funny

    Sorry, I'm an early morning drunk. I meant "Essential Text Configurations"

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  12. Re:Pronunciation? by Pharmboy · · Score: 4, Funny

    If you read a million lines of C with lots of good comments, you'd figure out the syntax before you finished.

    And if you read a millions lines of Perl, you would come to the conclusion that it has no syntax, then you would scratch your eyes out with a ball point pen. ;)

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  13. Re:Pronunciation? by greenguy · · Score: 2, Funny

    Thanks for the tip. All this time, I'd been pronouncing "C" as "one hundred."

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  14. I don't get it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Same reason people transliterate Ess-Que-Ell into "Sequel"...It's quicker, and it sounds better.

    How do people get 'Sequel' from 'SKL'?
  15. Re:I've always assumed et-cetera by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Historically, Unix had /sys for the kernel (short for SYStem, duh), /usr for user areas (yes, user areas)...


    Almost got it all right, but "usr" is "Unix System Resources." That goes way back.
  16. Re:Backward etymology by Bandman · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hey! You! You there, with your low slashdot number and your posts making sense! Ha! See if we listen to YOUR logic and experience! This is OUR flame war! Just because we've never touched anything more antique than Fedora Core 2 doesn't mean we don't know anything about the dark, mysterious history of Unix! Go back to your smarmy little terminal screens and your ascii based adventure games and leave the commenting to us REAL experts on the subject. We don't know what a teletype is, and we have some sort of vague idea that LISP might be a speech impediment, but we're doing just fine without your type in here interfering!

  17. Teh Internets Have Spoken by Trollusk · · Score: 2, Funny

    Google "extended tool chest" returns "about 13 results." If that's the meaning, it's a very well-kept secret meaning.

  18. Re:I've always assumed et-cetera by Mikachu · · Score: 5, Funny

    /bin for top-level binaries

    Wait wait wait... I always thought /bin was the recycling bin.

    ...

    Shit.
  19. Re:Let's be logical shall we by HeroreV · · Score: 2, Funny

    Let's be logical shall we
    The logical choice would be to rename it to something that makes more sense. If renaming would cause problems, that is already a problem that needs to fixed. I should be able to name it "Pretty Pink Ponies and Princesses" if I want and not have any problems arise from that.
  20. Re:I vote for et cetera by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    > I would side with "et cetera", or (if I remember my Latin) "and the rest".

    Yes, but next season they're changing it to /professorandmaryann :)

  21. Re:I vote for et cetera by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    You took the time to try to correct a +5,Funny post, and then can't even subtract correctly. So sad.

    (Feb 2007) - (May 2005) = 1 year 9 months.

  22. Re:I vote for et cetera by jrockway · · Score: 3, Funny

    I think you're misreading the output. /etc is from Feb 11 of this year, while /var is from May 11 of 2005. So /var is actually a few years older.

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  23. Re: other unix-related bacrynyms: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    emacs - Escape Meta Alt Control Shift.
    gdb - Get Down Baby.
    gcc - Give Communism (a) Chance.
    linux - Linus Is Not Usually Xeroflulogitic.
    lisp - Lisp Is (for) Symbolic Programming.
    java - Just Another Variant (of) Ada.
    perl - Perl Essentially Resembles Lisp.
    printf - People Rarely Insist (on) Naming This Function.
    sed - Slashdot (is) Easily Duped.
    top - Totally Ongoing Programs.
    vi - Very Irritating.

  24. Re:Pronunciation? by antibryce · · Score: 3, Funny

    I used a mechanical pencil. When scratching out your eyes there's more than one way to do it.

  25. Re:Let's be logical shall we by tverbeek · · Score: 1, Funny

    I should be able to name it "Pretty Pink Ponies and Princesses" if I want and not have any problems arise from that.
    You mean aside from being beaten up after school every day by the neanderthals at your middle school?
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  26. Re: other unix-related bacrynyms: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    lisp = lots (of) infuriating, superfluous parentheses

  27. Re:Pronunciation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Rock'n roll life of a developer... the stories these guys come out with are wild, man..

  28. Re:Pronunciation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    So, by "In the time of Caesar", do you mean in the time of Kaesar, or the time of Chaesar?

    I can just see it:
    Brutus: Die, Cheeser!
    Caesar: Et tu--wait, what did you just call me?

  29. Re:first post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Elongated Terrible Conversation.

  30. Re:Backronym. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    because when the system looks for the top-level directory, it would have to iterate through more directories to get a match. Duh. People think that just because 'cd /etc/init.d/' and 'cd /usr/local/include/emacs/emacs2.1/site-lisp/' take the same amount of time after you hit enter then they both must be a single processor instruction or something. In fact, the computer is doing millions of calculations more for the second command, while you sit there picking your nose. That's why I only put one file or subdirectory per directory, so it's simpler for the computer to find it. If a program installs differently, I rewrite it. Since my computer doesn't have to work as hard, it lasts longer. If I did things your way, I might as well pound my motherboard with a shovel. You fucking prick, you disgust me. If someone I knew were putting too many entries directly under root, I'd smash their face with my fist. Asshole.

  31. Is "/." pronounced "slash dot" or "oblique dot"? by Derling+Whirvish · · Score: 2, Funny

    Is "/." pronounced "slash dot" or "oblique dot" or "diagonal dot"?

  32. slash e t c by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    Edit These Carefully.

    Duh.

  33. Re:Disingenious backronym by David_W · · Score: 2, Funny

    but then there was the sendmail configuration...

    Hey, you can edit sendmail.cf by hand. Granted, you are likely to be committed to a mental institution shortly thereafter, but you CAN.