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NASA Outlines Asteroid Deflection Program

An anonymous reader submitted a link to an International Herald Tribune story about NASA's answer to the movie 'Armageddon'. Specifically, they've outlined a plan to deflect a planet-killer asteroid. "In 1998, Congress gave NASA's Spaceguard Survey program a mandate of 'discovering, tracking, cataloging and characterizing' 90 percent of the near-Earth objects larger than one kilometer (3,200 feet) wide by 2008. An object that size would probably destroy civilization. The consensus at the conference was that the initial survey is doing fairly well although it will probably not quite meet the 2008 goal." With this tracking system in place, scientists are hopeful an intervention could be staged before any grim choices have to be made. Assuming they have the money and manpower needed for the effort, NASA has actually outlined a pair of procedures that dove-tail with each other: "First we would deflect the asteroid with kinetic impact from a missile (that is, running into it); then we would use the slight pull of a 'gravity tractor' -- a satellite that would hover near the asteroid -- to fine-tune its new trajectory to our liking. (In the case of an extremely large object, probably one in 100, the missile might have to contain a nuclear warhead.) To be effective, however, such missions would have to be launched 15 or even 30 years before a calculated impact."

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  1. Interventions by dreamchaser · · Score: 5, Funny

    With this tracking system in place, scientists are hopeful an interventions could be staged before any grim choices have to be made.

    NASA has announced that they have gathered the mother, father, siblings, and close friends of asteroid YT8OJR in order to confront it about it's continued binge drinking and other self destructive behavior before it leaves more shattered lives in its wake. Unconfirmed reports show that the troubled asteroid could be close to cracking up. Hopefully the intervention will keep it from a collision course with disaster.

  2. Make things worse? by CommunistHamster · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Can we have an accurate estimate of the probability of a specific impact 30 years in the future? What if we change the course of an asteroid such that it has a new, better chance of hitting us the year after?

    1. Re:Make things worse? by omeomi · · Score: 4, Informative

      There was an interview with a guy on NPR concerning this...from what he was saying, the answer is basically, yes...things in space don't change direction unless something else hits them, so in theory, it is possible to predict an impact 30 years in advance. The main problem is that our ability to model trajectories isn't fine-grained enough to do so, yet.

    2. Re:Make things worse? by solevita · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think in this day and age the requirement for accurate estimates are outweighed by the desire to put nuclear weapons in space.

      You can imagine Peter Sellars in the War Room on the phone to China explaining that the nuclear deterrent is to deter asteroids, and in no way is trying to arm space.

    3. Re:Make things worse? by justthinkit · · Score: 2, Insightful

      things in space don't change direction unless something else hits them

      By hit you also mean the hit of gravity from a close encounter, right?

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  3. Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you: CTDF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    CTDF (Chair Throwing Defense System) is a highly effective method of deflecting incoming, civilization-threatening asteriods which are on collision course with our blue planet. The procude is as follows:

    1. Fly satellite up there
    2. Make satellite paint a big-fat google logo on the asteroid
    3. Let Steve Ballmer have a look through telescope
    4. Provide him with practically insufficient supply of chairs
    5. Wait
    6. Danger avoided

    1. Re:Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you: CTDF by solevita · · Score: 2, Informative

      insufficient
      I don't think that word means what you think it means.
    2. Re:Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you: CTDF by LaughingCoder · · Score: 4, Funny

      A slight modification:

      1. Tell Steve Ballmer the asteroid is a threat to Microsoft
      2. Disable all space-based anti-ballistic-chair defenses
      3. Wait
      4. Danger avoided

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    3. Re:Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you: CTDF by dotgain · · Score: 2, Funny

      You are disabling all space-based anti-ballistic chair defenses.
      Allow/cancel?

  4. Re:Get a life by JonathanR · · Score: 4, Funny

    So one US government administration is trying to save civilisaiton, and the other US administration seems hell bent on destroying it.

  5. Re:Get a life by omeomi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How crazy do you have to be to think that an asteroid is a real threat for humankind? *shakes head*

    Well, unless you've seen any dinosaurs lately, an extinction event has happened in the Earth's past at least once. Yeah, the chances of it happening again in our lifetime are infinitesimally small, but the consequences of *not* deflecting an asteroid if it comes our way are especially dire. I, for one, am all for the "just in case" planning in this regard.

  6. http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/impacteffects/ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    1 km could be a civilisation killer? don't think so: http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/impacteffects/

    Your Inputs:
    Distance from Impact: 250.00 km = 155.25 miles
    Projectile Diameter: 1000.00 m = 3280.00 ft = 0.62 miles
    Projectile Density: 3000 kg/m3
    Impact Velocity: 40.00 km/s = 24.84 miles/s
    Impact Angle: 80 degrees
    Target Density: 2500 kg/m3
    Target Type: Sedimentary Rock

    Energy:
    Energy before atmospheric entry: 1.26 x 1021 Joules = 3.00 x 105 MegaTons TNT
    The average interval between impacts of this size somewhere on Earth during the last 4 billion years is 1.8 x 106years

    Atmospheric Entry:
    The projectile begins to breakup at an altitude of 67700 meters = 222000 ft
    The projectile reaches the ground in a broken condition. The mass of projectile strikes the surface at velocity 39.8 km/s = 24.7 miles/s
    The impact energy is 1.25 x 1021 Joules = 2.98 x 105MegaTons.
    The broken projectile fragments strike the ground in an ellipse of dimension 1.1 km by 1.08 km

    Major Global Changes:
    The Earth is not strongly disturbed by the impact and loses negligible mass.
    The impact does not make a noticeable change in the Earth's rotation period or the tilt of its axis.
    The impact does not shift the Earth's orbit noticeably.

    Crater Dimensions:
    What does this mean?

    Crater shape is normal in spite of atmospheric crushing; fragments are not significantly dispersed.

    Transient Crater Diameter: 17.2 km = 10.7 miles
    Transient Crater Depth: 6.08 km = 3.77 miles

    Final Crater Diameter: 25 km = 15.5 miles
    Final Crater Depth: 0.78 km = 0.484 miles

    The crater formed is a complex crater.
    The volume of the target melted or vaporized is 10.9 km3 = 2.62 miles3
    Roughly half the melt remains in the crater , where its average thickness is 47.1 meters = 154 feet

    Thermal Radiation:
    What does this mean?

    Time for maximum radiation: 0.54 seconds after impact

    Visible fireball radius: 16.6 km = 10.3 miles
    The fireball appears 15.1 times larger than the sun
    Thermal Exposure: 6.78 x 106 Joules/m2
    Duration of Irradiation: 280 seconds
    Radiant flux (relative to the sun): 24.2 (Flux from a burner on full at a distance of 10 cm)

    Effects of Thermal Radiation:

    Much of the body suffers third degree burns

    Newspaper ignites

    Plywood flames

    Deciduous trees ignite

  7. Re:Get a life by Tenebrarum · · Score: 3, Funny

    It'd be better to invest more in that than to play Armageddon. That's what the dinosaurs thought, and look where it got them.

  8. Re:Get a life by leenks · · Score: 3, Funny

    Oh come on - how crazy do you have to be to think this is true? Everyone knows there were no dinosaurs! Fossils are merely artifacts put there by God to test our faith. Don't you "scientist" types know *anything*?

  9. Re:Get a life by an.echte.trilingue · · Score: 2, Insightful
    You are probably going to die of something other than an automobile accident. Does that mean that the auto industry should stop spending billions on crash tests and safety features (airbags, crumple zones, ABS, seatbelts, etc)? No.

    True, there are other, more pressing issues in the world, and so the asteroid thing should be on the back burner, but that does not mean that we should turn the back burner off. People can multi task, so lets do it.

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  10. Hey by okinawa_hdr · · Score: 2, Funny

    I've seen Armageddon and it just isn't possible unless you bring in the world's best deep core oil drillers, ok?

  11. Re:Get a life by Yvanhoe · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There are many other things (wars, diseases, maybe terrorism) which are much more likely to destroy civilization as we know it.

    Considering how well money has been spent on projects like "the war to end all wars" and the "war on terrorism", I would say that a project to deflect asteroids looks very wise in comparison. Whereas, I agree, the research on diseases is an important and underfunded domain (yes, I'll consider it underfunded as long as I have a life expectancy inferior to two centuries). Anyway, it's "just" a few millions dollars spent on watching pebbles in the sky, an activity that could be useful and do no harm, and it goes back into the economy anyway...

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  12. Re:The converse... by Oswald · · Score: 2, Insightful
    This is an interesting case. Naturally, your first response to OP's allegation that some people in the government would intentionally risk causing the end of humanity is: Nobody is crazy enough to do that. But then it hits you: Obviously this bozo is.

    So now I don't know exactly what to think.

  13. Off Topic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This post comes up every once in a while. I always find it really amusing. Slashdot is essentially a trade magazine; it targets and draws IT professionals, usually a very high-paid group of people and not a group likely to live in their parent's basements. Then there is somebody who takes the time to sit around late Friday night/Saturday morning, and hit the refresh button over and over until he can get the first post (ie, somebody without a job, a girlfriend, or probably many friends) and uses it to accuse a community of well paid professionals of living in their parents basements.

  14. Asteroid Radar System? by vbwyrde · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've always wondered if we could create a device that does the following:
    1. Go into a position above the plane on which the planets rotate around the sun so it looks "down" on the solar system.
    2. flash a bright light of a specified color every day at a certain time.
    3. read back the ping signature of the solar system's objects with a light sensitive camera.
    4. plug the changes into a computer.
    5. calculate trajectories of all objects.
    6. determine exactly which ones are on a bee-line for earth.
    7. continue to monitor for any surprises.
    8. focus on those objects that show they will come close to earth for deflection.

    Is this possible to do? Or am I missing a fundamental something-or-other? Thanks.

    1. Re:Asteroid Radar System? by deoxyribonucleose · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, the inverse square law plus the low albedo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albedo/) of http://www.aanda.org/articles/aa/full/2002/39/aah3 638/aah3638.right.html/ most asteroids would necessitate an incredibly bright "light". Anyone feel like whipping out a napkin to do some calculations? I doubt if the visible spectrum would be better than radio wavelengths (after all, we're mainly after large objects, right?). I wonder what the design restrictions would be for a radar which has to wait several hours for an echo would be: I'd guess a fluorescent screen wouldn't be optimal! :-)

      To improve results, you'd like to have at least two or preferably more observation points. Looking at NEO asteroid orbits http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/orbits// projected onto the ecliptic is a scary sight. Looking at them in three dimensions is rather more reassuring.

      Right now, I'd guess that Earth-based telescopes are the more economical alternative: easier to service, no pesky problem with energy supply or orbital station keeping. One drawback is that we need longer series of observations in order to resolve asteroidal orbits: hence the recurring "alarm bells" when a newly discovered asteroid rates high on the Palermo or Torino scales, only to be downgraded once more observations are matched to it.

  15. Bruce Willis by bryan1945 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Come on, all we need is 3 weeks and Bruce Willis and his drilling buddies to defeat any asteroid. Geez, don't any of you watch the historical videos?

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    1. Re:Bruce Willis by necro81 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Ya know, Armageddon (the movie) cost about $140 million to make. For that same budget, we probably could have finished a very good survey of any Near-Earth Asteroids, create a detailed mitigation plan, and start building prototype hardware to send up. You probably could even get Jerry Bruckheimer to film an overly dramatic documentary filled with lots of sound effects in space and slow-mo hero scenes.

  16. How would nuclear weapons work in outer space? by mosel-saar-ruwer · · Score: 4, Interesting


    In the case of an extremely large object, probably one in 100, the missile might have to contain a nuclear warhead.

    On earth, a nuclear weapon causes damage via its atmospheric shock wave - it's the motion of the air that causes buildings to fall down [or implode, or whatever].

    Do we even know how a hunk of rock would react to the introduction of a bunch of alpha particles/gamma rays/x-rays/infrared radiation/etc? How would the the crystalline structure of the rock be affected? What models do we have that indicate the rock would shatter from an internal heat differential, rather than merely glowing very bright red for a while [assuming the rock even chose to absorb the heat energy in the first place, rather than just deflecting it off into the void of outer space]?

    By contrast, underground detonations of nuclear devices are very benign events, and release vastly less energy than a small earthquake or a small volcanic event.

    It's only the gaseous shock wave of an atmospheric detonation that causes damage to humans & their metropolitan areas - in the vacuum of outer space, with no atmosphere [i.e. with no gas, hence no gaseous shock wave], a nuclear detonation might not be that big of a deal.

    1. Re:How would nuclear weapons work in outer space? by flyingsquid · · Score: 4, Interesting
      On earth, a nuclear weapon causes damage via its atmospheric shock wave - it's the motion of the air that causes buildings to fall down [or implode, or whatever].

      Much of the damage caused by nuclear weapons, particularly hydrogen bombs, is actually from the intense heat released; the thermal energy is capable of causing severe burns miles from the point of explosion even after the air has absorbed most of the radiation (which is why, believe it or not, "duck and cover" isn't such bad advice). My suspicion is that you would want to detonate the bomb some distance above the asteroid; the heat would cause the surface of the asteroid to vaporize, and the gas jetted from the surface would shove the asteroid off course.

  17. Re:Get a life by Beryllium+Sphere(tm) · · Score: 2, Insightful

    >How crazy do you have to be to think that an asteroid is a real threat for humankind? *shakes head*

    You have to be crazy enough to realize that civilization is more fragile than the species is, and crazy enough to realize that if an explosion the size of Tunguska or even smaller goes off near the India-Pakistan border the world will be breathing radioactive fallout for years.

    You also have to be crazy enough to do basic math and work out the odds of intolerable damage on a time scale of hundreds or thousands of years. Doing correct math in front of people is widely considered evidence of craziness, to be sure.

  18. Re:Empty space varies as N-cubed by zCyl · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Empty space varies as R-cubed, and the spherical effects tend to degrade as 1 over R-squared.

    It doesn't take much of an R to make that asteroid look like a tiny, insignificant needle in the vast, overwhelming haystack of empty space.

    Without doing any calculation, I presume there's an optimal distance away which is somewhere around a quarter or a third of the asteroid's diameter. Presumably someone would simulate this properly before launching a nuke all the way to an asteroid.
  19. Re:Bringing Them *Closer* by Hotawa+Hawk-eye · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Before we start nudging asteroids into orbit around Earth, we should practice putting them in orbit around Mars. If we mess up and the asteroid impacts Mars, the energy released by impact will thaw any ice that may be trapped below the surface, thus helping a little bit with terraforming the planet, rather than slamming into Earth.