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Russia's War on Piracy/Malicious Software

tmk writes "Russian minister Leonid Reiman has announced new legislation to fight software piracy. According to official information the share of pirated software in the Russian Federation decreased in the last years from 90 to 60 percent. Reiman dismissed as a myth the impression that many viruses originate in his country: 'Viruses are written all over the world. Russia is waging a consistent and successful war on malicious software.' Reiman calls for an international organization to fight Internet crime. Last year Russia agreed to take down Allofmp3 after the United States intervened."

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  1. Allofmp3 by Venik · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Allofmp3 is still alive and well. What happens to it in June, when new legislation is enabled, is not at all clear. I doubt they will just disappear. As to levels of software piracy in Russia, I doubt they are as high as in the US.

    1. Re:Allofmp3 by Venik · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Actually, I am from Russia. Just because they sell pirated software in Moscow subways, does not mean there is more software piracy going on there than in the US. There are many more computer users in the US and in the "West" in general. Many Russians don't even have computers at home, so why would they need to pirate software? Don't confuse Moscow with Russia.

    2. Re:Allofmp3 by cyclone96 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Walk to the subway station, and there are about 5 vendors who will happily sell you pirated version of any music CD, most DVDs, and almost any software for $5.

      I actually put that to the test last time I was in Moscow. Was in one of the high end shopping districts near Red Square and walked up to one of the multitudes of CD street vendors. Asked her if she had Borat (which had been released to theaters only a couple of weeks before, and is actually banned in Russia).

      Yup, had it. Just under the table. Commanded a premium price though, I seem to remember it was around 300 rubles (about $10).

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    3. Re:Allofmp3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Last time I was in Russia ( no, not Moscow ), I had to look for an internet point for hours. When finally found, it was an old PC running winME on a dial up... Yes no doubt piracy is "quite common" there, but seems people just care less, noone dies, noone gets jailed for life if he sells some music CDs on street. Western price is same 5-10$ per music CD? 100-200 rubels? = 1/10th - 1/20th of an average salary. But in west, we are all proud, especially US. We hate pirates, yet enjoy bittorrent downloads on our fancy 10mbit connections.

  2. Eye witness report. by rumith · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I am system administrator in a large nuclear physics institute in Moscow, which is by no mere coincidence a vital part of the Russian internet backbone. Since my day one I've been advocating Linux and free software, and here's the fruit: already about 10% of the institute's workers, including the director himself, use various distributions of Linux [mostly Ubuntu/Debian, Mandriva and Red Hat]. Besides, I'm currently engaged in talks with Sun regarding our migration to Sun Ray, which will run on a customized Debian system.

    I believe that if the result will look as I expect it to, the university [it's the largest university in Russia and AFAIK Europe] which we are a significant part of might break off Microsoft crap in toto, although this statement can be considered a pure speculation at this moment.

    1. Re:Eye witness report. by heinousjay · · Score: 3, Interesting

      So all I had to do was add context not suggested by either the article, or your post, and it all made sense. I can see how that's reasonable.

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  3. Imperialism by iamacat · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Why else would a country enact laws against the interests of both country's population and its future economic power? I can see limited term copyright laws being beneficial in Russia, but only with exemptions for income levels and educational use. How does anyone benefit from a kid being computer illiterate because his parents one year salary still can not buy Vista, Office and Photoshop? If one day oil cartel countries force US women to wear burkas, you will know how that feels. Stop mucking with democratically chosen laws of sovereign nations.

  4. Yup, businesses now get audited and sued by melted · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Heard of this from a sysadmin friend who lives in Saratov, Russia. His company got raided and its owner was dragged to court and had to pay fines. Fines were substantial. He was also required to comply with licensing requirements in full, so fines weren't his only expenditure. I tried to "sell" them on Linux at least on the servers, but the boss is afraid of anything "free as in beer" now.

  5. Re:Copyright and fascism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Yeah, just keep in mind that when that same government is mugging you for crappy things like Socialist Security et al., those thuggings are somehow OK.
    Because CNN said so.

  6. Re:War on piracy...pffft! by iminplaya · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The call to arms from the privileged elite.

    Yeah. Just like the old days. Kinda makes me nostalgic.

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  7. What about all the other AllofMyMP3s-like sites? by Sad+Adam · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yeah right. There are literally 10s of other AllofMyMp3 like sites. They have flourished like mushrooms. And not just in Russia. They seem to run out of every former Soviet republic.

    Not to mention the incredibly effective job that street based anti-piracy enforcement has achieved.Not.

    At best, it provides another opportunity for the cops to shake down stall holders.

      I think you will find anyone selling pirated CDs finds it easier to pay the cops or copyright inspects an "on the spot fine". That way everyone is happy. The CD software seller gets to keep doing business, the cop is paid, the cops boss gets a cut, and business continues.

    What are you worried about? This is the market is supposed to work, after all.

  8. Re:War on piracy...pffft! by The+PS3+Will+Fail · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You actually believe there's no benefit whatsoever to copyright? I haven't heard this a lot. Most people want to see copyright reformed - with reasonable limits on exclusivity before the content enters the public domain. Is it your opinion that copyright just shouldn't exist? And if that is the case, do you also see no value whatsoever in what copyright offers?

  9. Re:Allofmp3.com shut down? by fyoder · · Score: 4, Interesting
    It operates within Russian law. There are two ways they can shut it down
    1. Poison everyone involved with radioactive pellets.
    2. Change the law so that allofmp3.com is operating outside it.

    Basically, American perception that the Russian gov't is shutting down allofmp3.com is a misperception, and one which I suspect the Russians are happy not to correct. Perhaps they'll get around to changing the law, but remember that allofmp3.com pays a cut to some Russian licensing agency -- not sure where that money goes, but wouldn't surprise me if money is finding its way into gov't coffers (or politicians' pockets?)

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  10. Re:Copyright and fascism by EzInKy · · Score: 2, Interesting


    Yeah, just keep in mind that when that same government is mugging you for crappy things like Socialist Security et al., those thuggings are somehow OK.

    Because CNN said so.


    Actually Social Security began long before CNN was even a gleam in Ted's eye in an attempt to keep the millions of hopeless people from "thugging" the rich at a time when pure capitalism proved to be a great failure.

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  11. Re:yarr, malicious software must go... by Alex+Belits · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Your guess is right. The actor playing Long John Silver in this movie started this "pirate dialect" tradition that included "arr" and "matey".

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